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AMD64 3500+(939) versus AMD64 3200+(939) Winchester Core Price Gap
I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+
Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+ Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price gap for the performance difference. Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+ with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the 3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)? Other factors? Thanks in advance. |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:53:37 +0000, p00lb0y wrote:
I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+ Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+ Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price gap for the performance difference. Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+ with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the 3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)? Other factors? Thanks in advance. Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a 3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a 10% increase in performance. Lian Li Silver ATX Mid Tower Case, Model "PC-6077" Specifications: Case Type: ATX MID Tower Case Color: Silver Material: Aluminum Drive Bays: 5.25" x 6/0, 3.5" x 1/3 (external/internal) Expansion Slots: 7 Front Ports: USB2.0 x 2 ,Audio in/out, IEEE1394 Power Supply: N/A Cooling System: 3 x 80 mm ball bearing fans Motherboard Compatibility: ATX & Pentium 4 Dimensions: 8" D x 17.7" W x 19" H Special Features: Removable front panel, and power supply tray, Special ventilation design with air filter installed more info- N82E16811112043 $115.00 $115.00 MSI "K8N Neo2 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce3 ULTRA Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL Specifications: Supported CPU: Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64FX/64 processor Chipset: nForce3 ULTRA RAM: 4x DIMM Supports dual channel DDR266/333/400 Max 4GB Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2x PS/2, 1x COM, 1x LPT, 8x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x IEEE1394, 2xRJ45, 1x S/PDIF Out, Audio Ports IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices SATA/RAID: 4x SATA RAID with 0,1,0+1 Onboard Audio: ALC850 8-Ch Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E1111 1000Mbps, Realtek 8110S 1000Mbps Onboard IEEE1394: 3x ports by VIA 6306 Form Factor: ATX more info- N82E16813130468 $139.50 $139.50 Antec 550W Power Supply, Model "TRUE550" -RETAIL Specifications: Type: ATX Maximum Power: 550W PFC: No Power Good Signal: 100-500ms Hold-up Time: = 17ms at Full Load Efficiency: = 68% Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point+6.5V; +3.3V trip point+4.1V; +12V trip point+14.4V Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @47A;+3.3V @ 48A;+12V @ 18A Input Voltage: 115/230 VAC Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz Input Current: 10.0A for 115VAC; 6.0A for 230VAC Output: +3.3V@32A; +5V@40A; ; +12V@24A; -12V@1A; +5VSB@2A MTBF: 80,000 hrs. @ 25ºC Approvals: UL, TUV, CB, VDE, FCC CLASS B, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO, F more info- N82E16817103910 $101.49 $101.49 AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM Specifications: Model: AMD Athlon 64 Co Newcastle Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB Voltage: 1.5V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 939 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Packaging: OEM(Processor Only) more info- N82E16819103460 $272.00 $272.00 Kingston 184-Pin 1GB ECC Unbuffered DDR PC-3200, Model KVR400X72C3A/1G - RETAIL Specifications: Manufacturer: Kingston Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: 3-3-3 Support Voltage: 2.6V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 128M x 72-Bit Warranty: Lifetime more info- N82E16820144162 $254.77 $509.54 One Day Sale, Ends 12/7/2004 5:30 PM PST Seagate 200GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3200822AS, OEM Drive Only Specifications: Capacity: 200 GB Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms Buffer: 8MB Rotational Speed: 7,200 RPM Interface: Serial ATA Features: Best-in-class non-operating shock for excellent reliability. Best combination of performance, acoustics and robustness. Idle acoustics of 2.5 bels- the industry's best. World's first SATA desktop drive. Manufacturer Warranty: 5 year Packaging: OEM Drive Only more info- N82E16822148033 $122.00 $122.00 Thermaltake Venus 7+ Highest Performance Cooler for AMD Opteron & Athlon 64 (With RF and Back Plate) -RETAIL Specifications: Compatibility: AMD Opteron & Athlon 64 Dimensions: Fan: 70 x 70 x 15 mm, HeatSink: 74 x 68 x 35 mm Bearing Type: Dual Ball Bearing Nominal Speed(RPM): 3050 ± 10% RPM at 32ºC~ 6000 ± 10% RPM at 42ºC Max Air FlowCFM): 21.29 CFM at 32ºC~ 41.95 CFM at 42ºC Max Pressu 2.346 mm-H2O at 32ºC, 8.306 mm-H2O at 42ºC HeatSink Material: Opti fin, Cu-Cu soldering (46 fins) Rated Voltage: 12V Connector: 3Pin Noise(dBA): 28 at 3050 RPM, 45.5 at 6000 RPM Special Features: Clip and opti fin with 90 degree angle more info- N82E16835106034 $18.49 $18.49 Subtotal » $1,278.02 |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:53:37 GMT, p00lb0y
wrote: I was wondering if someone has some understanding why the AMD 3500+ Winchester Core 939 pin is approximately $300US while the 3200+ Winchester Core 939 is closer to $200US? This is a rather large price gap for the performance difference. Are there some inherent features or capabilities with the multiplier or other internals that justify the nearly 50% price premium for the 3500+ with respect to only a 10% core processor speed bump (2.0 GHz on the 3200+ and 2.2 GHz on the 3500+)? Other factors? Thanks in advance. The usual procedure is for companies to pay top dollar while enthusiasts buy the lower multiplier models and overclock with a good motherboard. Take your pick. |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:21:51 -0500, General Schvantzkoph wrote:
Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a 3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a 10% increase in performance. nah, you're paying a 50% premium for a 10% gain in processor speed, which is, as you well know, only one factor in overall system performance. Bang for buck wise, that's a terrible ROI. -- I yustabe+me, but I was never Y-O-U |
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If you're looking for the best deal get a Semipron .. if you want the best
CPU get a 939. "JohnOfArc" wrote in message news On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:21:51 -0500, General Schvantzkoph wrote: Look at it from a system cost standpoint. If you look at the cost of a system the price difference is less than 10%. Example, I've been pricing a 3500+ system at Newegg. The total system cost is $1278, the sample system with a 3200+ would cost $1190, that's less than 10% more expensive for a 10% increase in performance. nah, you're paying a 50% premium for a 10% gain in processor speed, which is, as you well know, only one factor in overall system performance. Bang for buck wise, that's a terrible ROI. -- I yustabe+me, but I was never Y-O-U |
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