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AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress
Hi all,
Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? Kind Regards, Jason |
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Take the side off the case - leave it running for about 5 or 10 mins - if
the temp drops - it is down to pool ventilation in your case. I had the same problems when I upgraded my PC to AMD at Xmas. I took the side off my case - and the temp dropped 20 degrees in 10 mins. This prompted me to chase my case for one with more ventilation where I could istall additional fans on the side and on the rear. I also replaced my processor fan for a "Coolermaster Aero 7 Lite Alloy Extrusion + Aero Fan Amd Cpu" eg: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=62489 A System Exhaust Blower Fan also helped: eg: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=23879 Hope this helps, Si. |
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:33:28 -0700, Jason wrote:
Hi all, Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? If the temps are correct, yes, you should be worried, a lot. Some MB's may not be reporting temps right. don't know about yours. Double check the cooler installation. I get about 40C in bios on my 64 3000+ using the stock cooler. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Like Wes said, your Motherboard may not be reporting the temperature right.
Try different temperature reporting software like Hmonitor, Motherboard Monitor 5, etc and see what you get, or try measuring the temperature manualy with a temp measuring device, whatever you come up with. If your CPU is really running at 60-65, thats way too high. When I was running my A64 3200+ air cooled, the highest I would get was 52C or so, about 38C idle with stock HSF. With todays CPUs, you have to have proper case vent, at least 2 80mm fans, 1 intake 1 exhaus. CPU temp is no longer a problem for me as its watercooled. 30C idle peeks at 40C under heavy load. Goodluck "Jason" wrote in message om... Hi all, Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? Kind Regards, Jason |
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"Jason" wrote in message om... Hi all, Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? Kind Regards, Jason Use a program like CPU-Z to verify which AMD64 you have, if it's the latest Newcastle core, i.e. Family=F, Model=C, Stepping=0 then there is a known temperature monitoring issue with the motherboard BIOS, as far as I know this affects all K8 motherboards. Some motherboard manufacturers like Abit have already addressed this problem and the temperatures are showing around 20C less. The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. You should check in a Gigabyte forum to see if others are experiencing similar problems and get Gigabyte to address the problem. |
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AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress
Just build A64 2800+ system on MSI K8T Neo FISR MB. Same problem as Jason has. Idling at 63C, loaded at max 77C! Yes it is the new processor with NewCastle core, Family F Model C Stepping 0. In the store where I bought the hardware, I was told that its the problem with the new NewCastle core reporting the temps incorrectly. If it wasn't so, and the actual die temp was 77C, wouldn't my cpu be dead already? Coaimhghin says: The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. Okay, where does this "overheating protection" read the temperature from? Is there some OnDie sensor for overheating protection that we can't get reading from? If the overheating temperature exists and functions properly, shouldn't I be able to remove my HSF from the CPU completely and watch the system shut down automaticaly in few minutes? AMD Product Spec says Max Die temp can be 85C. Just updated the BIOS to latest revision, it doesn't fix the problem. Okay, anybody has the same problem, solution to this problem or answers to my questions, any help is much appreciated. "Caoimhghin" wrote in message ... "Jason" wrote in message om... Hi all, Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? Kind Regards, Jason Use a program like CPU-Z to verify which AMD64 you have, if it's the latest Newcastle core, i.e. Family=F, Model=C, Stepping=0 then there is a known temperature monitoring issue with the motherboard BIOS, as far as I know this affects all K8 motherboards. Some motherboard manufacturers like Abit have already addressed this problem and the temperatures are showing around 20C less. The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. You should check in a Gigabyte forum to see if others are experiencing similar problems and get Gigabyte to address the problem. |
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"johny" wrote If the overheating temperature exists and functions properly, shouldn't I be able to remove my HSF from the CPU completely and watch the system shut down automaticaly in few minutes? Probably the cpu would instantly be toast. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:13:40 +0000, johny wrote:
AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress Just build A64 2800+ system on MSI K8T Neo FISR MB. Same problem as Jason has. Idling at 63C, loaded at max 77C! Yes it is the new processor with NewCastle core, Family F Model C Stepping 0. In the store where I bought the hardware, I was told that its the problem with the new NewCastle core reporting the temps incorrectly. If it wasn't so, and the actual die temp was 77C, wouldn't my cpu be dead already? Nope it would have shut off. This I know from yesterday. Flashed a new bios, rebooted and noticed temps climbing. Figuring the new bios was screwed up I watched it a while. When it got pretty high after a while I took the side cover off and saw that my cpu fan wasn't on. I played with it a while trying to get it to work, then started some bad smells. The machine shut down within a few seconds. Replaced the fan and running again. The fan was a TMD fan. That's either 2 or 3 that I've had die on me before they were a year old. It will be my last. Coaimhghin says: The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. Okay, where does this "overheating protection" read the temperature from? Is there some OnDie sensor for overheating protection that we can't get reading from? It's an internal circuit that you can't monitor afaik. If the overheating temperature exists and functions properly, shouldn't I be able to remove my HSF from the CPU completely and watch the system shut down automaticaly in few minutes? AMD Product Spec says Max Die temp can be 85C. Yep. Even though mine did shutdown on it's own, I wouldn't want to test it again.:-) -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:13:40 GMT, johny wrote:
AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress Just build A64 2800+ system on MSI K8T Neo FISR MB. Same problem as Jason has. Idling at 63C, loaded at max 77C! Yes it is the new processor with NewCastle core, Family F Model C Stepping 0. In the store where I bought the hardware, I was told that its the problem with the new NewCastle core reporting the temps incorrectly. If it wasn't so, and the actual die temp was 77C, wouldn't my cpu be dead already? Coaimhghin says: The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. Okay, where does this "overheating protection" read the temperature from? Is there some OnDie sensor for overheating protection that we can't get reading from? If the overheating temperature exists and functions properly, shouldn't I be able to remove my HSF from the CPU completely and watch the system shut down automaticaly in few minutes? AMD Product Spec says Max Die temp can be 85C. 85C is for 32-bit chips 2200+ and higher. Max case temp for 64-bit is 70C (mobile chips are 95C). My HP a530n BIOS (Asus KBN8X-LA mobo) shows my AMD 64 3200+ (2000 MHz) about 45C, which is only in upper 40's at full load (fire.exe). It idles at 38C. As a comparison Compaq 32-bit AMD XP 3000+ (2100 MHz) shows 65C in BIOS, 69C CPU under full load, 48C idle. But it is rated 85C case temp. Just updated the BIOS to latest revision, it doesn't fix the problem. How does BIOS temperature compare with temperatures you are seeing? Okay, anybody has the same problem, solution to this problem or answers to my questions, any help is much appreciated. "Caoimhghin" wrote in message ... "Jason" wrote in message om... Hi all, Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running. Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees. My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of temperatures? Kind Regards, Jason Use a program like CPU-Z to verify which AMD64 you have, if it's the latest Newcastle core, i.e. Family=F, Model=C, Stepping=0 then there is a known temperature monitoring issue with the motherboard BIOS, as far as I know this affects all K8 motherboards. Some motherboard manufacturers like Abit have already addressed this problem and the temperatures are showing around 20C less. The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. You should check in a Gigabyte forum to see if others are experiencing similar problems and get Gigabyte to address the problem. -- David Efflandt - All spam ignored http://www.de-srv.com/ http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/ |
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