Can AGP handle it...?

Hi everyone!

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the amount
of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT PE & the
6800Ultra?

Or will these cards only function at full through-put in their
PCI-express versions?


Regards,
Evert Meulie

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:07:23 +0100, Evert Meulie
wrote:

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the amount
of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT PE & the
6800Ultra?

AGP 4X does just as well, as Public Enemy said, don't believe the
hype. The only advantage of PCI express is potential SLI applications.
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Evert Meulie wrote:
Hi everyone!

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the
amount of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT
PE & the 6800Ultra?

Or will these cards only function at full through-put in their
PCI-express versions?


Regards,
Evert Meulie

i don't think you would notice much difference if you had an x800 or 6800 on
agp x2, never mind x8 or pci express
you are a vitctim of hype, go toms hardware webby and read up about pci
express and video cards
i certainly am not saying don't buy pci express, just don't kill yourself it
get pci express over agp

Andrew wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:07:23 +0100, Evert Meulie
wrote:

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the amount
of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT PE & the
6800Ultra?

AGP 4X does just as well, as Public Enemy said, don't believe the
hype. The only advantage of PCI express is potential SLI applications.

And then only if your motherboard supports it. Now it seems to be coming
out that the first generation SLI-capable motherboards will be running one
of the video boards on an x8 slot with an x16 connector rather than an x16
slot (so much for standards). Can you say "gross overkill"? Can you say
"transparent marketing ploy"?

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In article , Evert Meulie says...
Hi everyone!

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the amount
of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT PE & the
6800Ultra?

Even AGP 4x and probably AGP2x isn't close to data saturation yet.


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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:18:03 +0000, Andrew spamtrap@localhost.
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The only advantage of PCI express is potential SLI applications.

the second one is since the data transfer is simetric (w/ Agp is
asymetric) same speed from system to Video card & viceversa; the video
capturing, real time editing video & sending data back to the card &
certain other cards devices (IMHO special very expensive stuff) may
wastely benefit of that ... but IMHO that features would be used no
more than 1% of cases ...
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Spajky wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:18:03 +0000, Andrew spamtrap@localhost.
wrote:

The only advantage of PCI express is potential SLI applications.

the second one is since the data transfer is simetric (w/ Agp is
asymetric) same speed from system to Video card & viceversa; the video
capturing, real time editing video & sending data back to the card &
certain other cards devices (IMHO special very expensive stuff) may
wastely benefit of that ... but IMHO that features would be used no
more than 1% of cases ...

No realtime video editing software needs PCI Express. The HD datastream is
transmitted on a 6 MHz channel--ordinary PCI can handle over a hundred of
those simultaneously. If you decompress it the bandwidth requirement gets
a lot higher but there the disk is going to be the bottleneck, not the
video bus, and until there are decent PCI Express RAID controllers you're
going to need PCI-X slots for that anyway, so PCI Express becomes moot for
the time being.

The one place it might make a real difference with video is with an
application that uses the rendering hardware on the video board as a
coprocessor to accelerate rendering of 3d images. I understand that there
is at least one such, but it's not mainstream stuff and the price is such
that PCI-X would be no burden.

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"Evert Meulie" wrote in message
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Hi everyone!

Just wondering about the following: Can an AGP 8x slot handle the amount
of traffic generated by the top graphics cards like the X800XT PE & the
6800Ultra?

Or will these cards only function at full through-put in their PCI-express
versions?


It's the same situation as back in the late nineties, CPU speed was the
marketing headline that kept everyone upgrading.

The marketing gurus neglected to tell you that a faster hard disk and more
memory is a much better upgrade for the average user.

NEVER BUY THE FIRST GENERATION OF ANYTHING. LET ALL THE OTHER SUCKERS BE
EARLY ADOPTERS.

"Just Askin'" wrote
NEVER BUY THE FIRST GENERATION OF ANYTHING. LET ALL THE OTHER SUCKERS BE
EARLY ADOPTERS.

Heh - so true. But -- MUST BUY AGP 6600GT WITH VIVO!!!
I hope it works ok. I hope they really fixed the video processor.

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Heh - so true. But -- MUST BUY AGP 6600GT WITH VIVO!!!

Is that the card that a =A3120 Radeon 9800 Pro beats?

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