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February 10th 06, 05:56 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help. 
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February 10th 06, 06:02 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
Both are HP machines, by the way.
"Sim E Terry" wrote in message ink.net... I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help.
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February 10th 06, 10:08 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:56:25 +0000, Sim E Terry wrote:
I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help. My choice for a dual core processor is the X2 4400+ which has 1M caches, the X2 4200+ only has 1/2M caches. For a single core system I'd choose the 4000+ instead of the 3800+ for the same reason.
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February 10th 06, 10:44 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:56:25 +0000, Sim E Terry wrote:
I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help. Well, the $200 price difference isn't justified by the difference in CPU price, as there's only $90 difference in price of them. That said, I think you'll be happy with either of them. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
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February 10th 06, 10:45 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:02:31 +0000, Sim E Terry wrote:
Both are HP machines, by the way. I take everything I said back. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
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February 12th 06, 11:51 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
Thanks for the info guys. It helps.
"Sim E Terry" wrote in message ink.net... I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help.
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February 13th 06, 09:51 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
Why HP?They really aren't very good PC's.
"Sim E Terry" wrote in message t... Thanks for the info guys. It helps. "Sim E Terry" wrote in message ink.net... I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help.
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February 13th 06, 10:16 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:51:20 +0000, dawg wrote:
Why HP?They really aren't very good PC's. "Sim E Terry" wrote in message t... Thanks for the info guys. It helps. "Sim E Terry" wrote in message ink.net... I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help. What makes you say that? I have two Compaq machines, a laptop with a 3400+ and a desktop with a 3800+, they've been solid as can be. I run all of my systems 24/7, I haven't had any trouble. I've had the laptop for 18 months and the desktop for 16. HP machines are a good value for the money, the only reason to not buy from them is if they don't have the configuration that you want. I got my X2 4400+ box from Monarch because HP didn't sell a 4400+ at the time, but my 3800+ system had exactly what I wanted at the time (MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, a decent NVidia graphics card, better sound then I needed, slots for every kind of flash card, Enermax power supply, a good case (Wavemaster), 250G drive, DVD RW plus a second DVD ROM) and it cost less then the individual components would have cost (I was pricing the same hardware at NewEgg and Monarch when I saw this box at CompUSA).
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#9
February 14th 06, 10:29 PM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
Don't get the 4400X2. Your paying $100 for 512k of cache. Put this $100
towards another gig of ram or good dual channel stuff. This will make your computer perform better than 512k of cache will. -- XP2600@171 PC3200 Samsung 512mb, SB Live OEM AIW9600XT, A7N8X-X WD120gb + 80gb HD 8mb buffers Plextor PX-712A, Liteon 1693S 16X Dual Layer Pioneer DVR-110D 16X - 4X Dual Layer Thermaltake Lanfire, 420 Watt PS ViewSonic 19" A91f+ CRT Micrsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Joystick Overall Score-2066, cpu_score-2926 in 3DMark2005 basic 1078X768, No AA "Sim E Terry" wrote in message ink.net... I'm wanting a new 64 bit computer and am comparing these 2 machines. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ @ $869.00 VS AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ @ $669.00 Everything else is the same on both machines, 1GB Mem, 250GB drive (no motherboard info in FRYs ad). Would the X2 Dual Core Prosessor be that much faster the 3800+, justifying the $200.00 difference? Thanks for any help.
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#10
February 16th 06, 02:02 AM
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Help with comparisons of 2 machines
Not according to AMD's charts
-- XP2600@171 PC3200 Samsung 512mb, SB Live OEM AIW9600XT, A7N8X-X WD120gb + 80gb HD 8mb buffers Plextor PX-712A, Liteon 1693S 16X Dual Layer Pioneer DVR-110D 16X - 4X Dual Layer Thermaltake Lanfire, 420 Watt PS ViewSonic 19" A91f+ CRT Micrsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Joystick Overall Score-2066, cpu_score-2926 in 3DMark2005 basic 1078X768, No AA "Bill" wrote in message ... VanShania wrote: Don't get the 4400X2. Your paying $100 for 512k of cache. Put this $100 towards another gig of ram or good dual channel stuff. This will make your computer perform better than 512k of cache will. Depends on the intended use actually. For typical use, yes the extra RAM would be the better option. But if your needs include very intensive CPU calculations, then the faster processor and larger L1 cache may make a bigger difference than any amount of RAM.
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