CPU Temperature
 

I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is the cause
of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is normal for this type
of system - which is more like a laptop than a desktop, as the motherboard
and cards are built in behind the TFT screen and the hardrive is built into
it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on this
software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain temp to
prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that this is
happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3 times
in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look into the
possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me with a stable
system.

Thanks in advance

Nel wrote:
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is
the cause of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is
normal for this type of system - which is more like a laptop than a
desktop, as the motherboard and cards are built in behind the TFT
screen and the hardrive is built into it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on
this software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain
temp to prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that
this is happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3
times in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look
into the possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me
with a stable system.

Thanks in advance

I've looked at this and are you /sure/ you're not confusing F with C?! You
see, according to Intel, the MOT (Maximum Operating Temperature) is 69°C
(156°F). If you really *DO* mean Celsius, then the CPU should have burnt up
the second you switched it on (or powered off if the safety cut out was
enabled). 113°C is 235°F!! I'm extremely surprised your computer is even
functioning! If you are confused then you're OK as 113°F is only 45°C, which
is absolutely fine.

Nel wrote:
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is
the cause of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is
normal for this type of system - which is more like a laptop than a
desktop, as the motherboard and cards are built in behind the TFT
screen and the hardrive is built into it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on
this software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain
temp to prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that
this is happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3
times in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look
into the possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me
with a stable system.

Thanks in advance

I noticed that you're also posting to an overclocking group - are you?

Nel wrote:
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is
the cause of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is
normal for this type of system - which is more like a laptop than a
desktop, as the motherboard and cards are built in behind the TFT
screen and the hardrive is built into it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on
this software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain
temp to prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that
this is happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3
times in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look
into the possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me
with a stable system.

Thanks in advance

I've looked at this and are you /sure/ you're not confusing F with C?! You
see, according to Intel, the MOT (Maximum Operating Temperature) is 69°C
(156°F). If you really *DO* mean Celsius, then the CPU should have burnt
up
the second you switched it on (or powered off if the safety cut out was
enabled). 113°C is 235°F!! I'm extremely surprised your computer is even
functioning! If you are confused then you're OK as 113°F is only 45°C,
which
is absolutely fine.


According to SiSoft, it is now at 106.0 'C, 222.8'F (There's also "td" after
the temps - I've no idea what that stands for!)

10 minutes now and no crash!! Hurrah!!!

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
...
Nel wrote:
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is
the cause of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is
normal for this type of system - which is more like a laptop than a
desktop, as the motherboard and cards are built in behind the TFT
screen and the hardrive is built into it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on
this software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain
temp to prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that
this is happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3
times in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look
into the possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me
with a stable system.

Thanks in advance

I noticed that you're also posting to an overclocking group - are you?


No, I just thought the experienced overclockers out there might have more
experience with temperatures.

Thing is, I've built PC's in the past and had no problems whatsoever. I
just felt like getting away from beige boxes and splashing out on this fancy
looking piece of kit (it DOES look nice!), and getting an extended warranty
so that I didn't have to worry about taking it to bits. What a mistake!!

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:22:25 +0100 As another one bit the dust "Nel"
wrote :

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
...
Nel wrote:
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is
the cause of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is
normal for this type of system - which is more like a laptop than a
desktop, as the motherboard and cards are built in behind the TFT
screen and the hardrive is built into it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on
this software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain
temp to prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that
this is happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3
times in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look
into the possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me
with a stable system.

Thanks in advance

I noticed that you're also posting to an overclocking group - are you?


No, I just thought the experienced overclockers out there might have more
experience with temperatures.

Thing is, I've built PC's in the past and had no problems whatsoever. I
just felt like getting away from beige boxes and splashing out on this fancy
looking piece of kit (it DOES look nice!), and getting an extended warranty
so that I didn't have to worry about taking it to bits. What a mistake!!


Try,"Speedfan" just to double check the temps,
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

HTH :)



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Try installing MotherBoard Monitor and checking the temperature readings.
MotherBoard Monitor 5.3.7 is available from http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . A
REAL reading of 106 degrees is probably impossible with a Pentium 4; the CPU
would have ceased operation before that high a temperature was reached;
first it would have throttled down and then errors would have locked up the
system.

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"Nel" wrote in message
...
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is the
cause
of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is normal for this
type
of system - which is more like a laptop than a desktop, as the motherboard
and cards are built in behind the TFT screen and the hardrive is built
into
it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on this
software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain temp to
prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that this is
happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3 times
in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look into the
possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me with a stable
system.

Thanks in advance

The maximum temp while under load for that CPU should be around 50C. (100C
is the boiling point of water!)

--
DaveW



"Nel" wrote in message
...
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is the
cause
of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is normal for this
type
of system - which is more like a laptop than a desktop, as the motherboard
and cards are built in behind the TFT screen and the hardrive is built
into
it's base.

According to Sisoft Sandra, the CPU runs at 108-113'C during normal
conditions an the top of the unit is hot to the touch. Can I rely on this
software's reading?

I've also heard that a P4 powers down when it reaches are certain temp to
prevent burn out - is there any software that can prove that this is
happening?

All help will be appreciated as this system has been in for repair 3 times
in 6 months and I'm thoroughly sick of it, and I want to look into the
possibility of getting a refund if they cannot supply me with a stable
system.

Thanks in advance

"Nel" wrote in message
...
I'm certain that my CPU (P4 3.06gHz) is running far too hot and is the
cause
of my unstable PC. The manufacturer claims the temp is normal for this
type
of system -

So its OEM?

If it is, take it back! Demand a replacement if its locking up. You paid a
price premium for support, so you might as well use it.

hamman

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:36:08 +0000, Phil Weldon wrote:

Try installing MotherBoard Monitor and checking the temperature readings.
MotherBoard Monitor 5.3.7 is available from http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . A
REAL reading of 106 degrees is probably impossible with a Pentium 4; the CPU
would have ceased operation before that high a temperature was reached;
first it would have throttled down and then errors would have locked up the
system.

Also try rebooting and checking the temperature in the BIOS. I'm guessing
that Sisoft Sandra is using the wrong normalization factor for your
board.