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Norm Why[_2_] April 6th 20 09:43 PM

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Hi,

I found the last 4GB Samsung DDR2 RAM, it was priced at USD 15,000.

I went shopping for 2GB Samsung DDR2 RAM. Well priced, four RAM sticks were
delivered. I only need two to increase total RAM to 12GB. I am one of
700,000 running Folding@Home to solve Covid-19 coat protein problem.

We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.






Norm Why[_2_] April 6th 20 10:09 PM

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I found the last 4GB Samsung DDR2 RAM, it was priced at USD $15,000.

I went shopping for 2GB Samsung DDR2 RAM. Well priced, four RAM sticks
were delivered. I only need two to increase total RAM to 12GB. I am one of
700,000 running Folding@Home to solve Covid-19 coat protein problem.

We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.


PC would not boot or show BIOS on either screen. I guess I should plug in
the Beep speaker.

Maybe ultimate upgrade path would be to plug in 4 2GB RAM sticks (total 8GB)
and then upgrade to 12GB.

Comments?



Norm Why[_2_] April 7th 20 12:34 AM

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We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.


PC would not boot or show BIOS on either screen. I guess I should plug in
the Beep speaker.

Maybe ultimate upgrade path would be to plug in 4 2GB RAM sticks (total
8GB) and then upgrade to 12GB.

Comments?


'Continuous short beeps:' Power error. ****, not again?

Comments?



Norm Why[_2_] April 7th 20 12:44 AM

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PC would not boot or show BIOS on either screen. I guess I should plug in
the Beep speaker.

Maybe ultimate upgrade path would be to plug in Continuous long beeps:
Graphics card not inserted properly(total 8GB) and then upgrade to 12GB.

Comments?


'Continuous short beeps:' Power error. ****, not again?

Comments?


Now with removal of 2 x 2GB RAM sticks:

Continuous long beeps: Graphics card not inserted properly.

Something we can work on. But why?

Comments?



Norm Why[_2_] April 7th 20 01:00 AM

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Now with removal of 2 x 2GB RAM sticks:

Continuous long beeps: Graphics card not inserted properly.

Something we can work on. But why?

Comments?


Now with cable to PCI VGA adapter removed, still same boot code after a
short pause. Strange, Folding@Home recognized PCI GPU card but did not use
it. It is not invisible to Folding@Home but it is invisible to Win10.

Maybe I scrambled the BIOS setting? Maybe shorting BIOS reset work?

Argh, this can't be happening to me? I am in the middle of a civil lawsuit,
I'm cramming for exams and I have a new addition to my family.

I am losing bragging rights, solution of Covid-19 folding is not in sight
and I might fail.

Comments?



Paul[_28_] April 7th 20 01:08 AM

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Norm Why wrote:
PC would not boot or show BIOS on either screen. I guess I should plug in
the Beep speaker.

Maybe ultimate upgrade path would be to plug in Continuous long beeps:
Graphics card not inserted properly(total 8GB) and then upgrade to 12GB.

Comments?

'Continuous short beeps:' Power error. ****, not again?

Comments?


Now with removal of 2 x 2GB RAM sticks:

Continuous long beeps: Graphics card not inserted properly.

Something we can work on. But why?

Comments?


Doesn't that motherboard have four slots ?

Four slots times 2GB is 8GB. What's wrong with that ?
That's a good number, and probably matched stuff too.

It could be that your 4GB DIMM is actually damaged, and
is shorting out a pin on the bus and damaging the Northbridge
memory interface.

You have to be careful, as a home builder, of "domino faults".
That's where a component you own, starts sabotaging hardware,
and it usually takes "two ruined things" before you figure it out.

Switch down to one 2GB stick. Try on Channel 0. Try on Channel 1.
Once a working channel is identified, add a DIMM to the *same* channel.
Since DIMM pairs are the same color, the single channel config
would be two slots of different colors. Consult the manual for
details.

If two DIMMs on the working channel are OK, then you can try a third
stick. Preferably one you know works (2GB), or was working up until today.
If that's failing, it could be the channel which is damaged.

I think an Intel chipset like that, support Flex Memory, so
the population pattern should not matter from a "beep perspective".
Make sure all the DIMMs are UDIMMs - this is reinforced by where the
keying slot is cut, so it would be difficult to do it wrong.
Although one poster told me once, he "cut a slot with a hacksaw
so the DIMM would fit" :-/ Gah!

Old fashioned CMOS, like 4000 series, current limited on a fault.
This was a transistor property, rather than spiffing design. It
made all sorts of things possible.

Modern bus drivers aren't likely to behave that way, which means
if shorted, they'll likely get damaged. Bus termination power
sources or bus pad power sources, are probably good for several
amps, which is plenty to burn a pad with a short on the output.

Just a guess. As otherwise, the symptoms don't make much sense.

And you are remembering to remove *all* power when changing
DIMMs, right ? Right ? ... That means switch off at the back,
and/or unplug it, then wait 30 seconds for +5VSB to drain,
*then* add or remove DIMMs.

Paul

philo April 9th 20 02:20 AM

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On 4/6/20 3:43 PM, Norm Why wrote:
Hi,

I found the last 4GB Samsung DDR2 RAM, it was priced at USD 15,000.

I went shopping for 2GB Samsung DDR2 RAM. Well priced, four RAM sticks were
delivered. I only need two to increase total RAM to 12GB. I am one of
700,000 running Folding@Home to solve Covid-19 coat protein problem.

We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.







I now find DDR-2 machines to slow to bother with,

That said 8 gigs of RAM should be sufficient

Of course for the money you'd spend on that old RAM you;d be better off
with a whole new machine

Bill Bradshaw April 9th 20 09:01 PM

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philo wrote:
On 4/6/20 3:43 PM, Norm Why wrote:
Hi,

I found the last 4GB Samsung DDR2 RAM, it was priced at USD 15,000.

I went shopping for 2GB Samsung DDR2 RAM. Well priced, four RAM
sticks were delivered. I only need two to increase total RAM to
12GB. I am one of 700,000 running Folding@Home to solve Covid-19
coat protein problem. We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark
Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.


I now find DDR-2 machines to slow to bother with,

That said 8 gigs of RAM should be sufficient

Of course for the money you'd spend on that old RAM you;d be better
off with a whole new machine


But at least he is occupied while waiting out covid-19.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska



philo April 13th 20 02:24 AM

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On 4/9/2020 3:01 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
philo wrote:
On 4/6/20 3:43 PM, Norm Why wrote:
Hi,

I found the last 4GB Samsung DDR2 RAM, it was priced at USD 15,000.

I went shopping for 2GB Samsung DDR2 RAM. Well priced, four RAM
sticks were delivered. I only need two to increase total RAM to
12GB. I am one of 700,000 running Folding@Home to solve Covid-19
coat protein problem. We are in the New Dark Ages, just like the Old Dark
Ages.

At the end of the world no one wants to be holding unsold inventory.


I now find DDR-2 machines to slow to bother with,

That said 8 gigs of RAM should be sufficient

Of course for the money you'd spend on that old RAM you;d be better
off with a whole new machine


But at least he is occupied while waiting out covid-19.




Yes.

I am getting projects done that I should have gotten to years ago


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