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Problem installing XP64 to IDE disk
Hi there,
I've been trying to install WinXP on to an IDE disk I have in my PC without much luck, at least not without swapping around the disk controller priority in the BIOS which means I can't boot from the SATA drive. My current PC is based around the KV8-MAX3 with an Maxtor 80GB drive hooked up to IDE2 Primary. On IDE 1 Primary I have a Sony DRU510 DVD-RW. I've also got a Sumsung SATA 160GB drive hooked up to the Via 8237 SATA controller via SATA1. My floppy drive is a Sony USB Floppy drive. In total, this board will cater for 6 SATA drivers, 2 using the VIA 8237 on-chip controller and another 4 using the Silicon Image onboard controller. The PC is configured in the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive and the VIA SATA controller has boot priority. When I install XP64 with the SATA drivers for the Via 8237 I load the drivers using F6 and go through the screens. Eventually it gets to the file copy stage and then asks for the Driver Disk again, but it's in the drive already - for some reason it just won't move on from this point. When I install XP64 without the SATA drivers I go through the setup and it copies the files across succesfully and then when I reboot, nothing happens, it hasn't changed the boot options on the SATA drive (which is my primary boot drive). The boot files for XP64 have been installed on the IDE disk. Initially I though that this may be a problem with using a USB floppy drive to install but it works just fine if I install to the SATA drive, just not when installing to the IDE drive - wtf is going on? Short of just migrating my Win32 boot parition to the IDE disk and booting off the IDE disk for both XP32 and XP64 I don't know what else to do, can anyone offer any guidance here cos I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall now.... -- JasonB To reply, replace nospam4me with blueyonder |
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JasonB wrote:
Hi there, I've been trying to install WinXP on to an IDE disk I have in my PC without much luck, at least not without swapping around the disk controller priority in the BIOS which means I can't boot from the SATA drive. My current PC is based around the KV8-MAX3 with an Maxtor 80GB drive hooked up to IDE2 Primary. On IDE 1 Primary I have a Sony DRU510 DVD-RW. I've also got a Sumsung SATA 160GB drive hooked up to the Via 8237 SATA controller via SATA1. My floppy drive is a Sony USB Floppy drive. In total, this board will cater for 6 SATA drivers, 2 using the VIA 8237 on-chip controller and another 4 using the Silicon Image onboard controller. The PC is configured in the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive and the VIA SATA controller has boot priority. When I install XP64 with the SATA drivers for the Via 8237 I load the drivers using F6 and go through the screens. Eventually it gets to the file copy stage and then asks for the Driver Disk again, but it's in the drive already - for some reason it just won't move on from this point. When I install XP64 without the SATA drivers I go through the setup and it copies the files across succesfully and then when I reboot, nothing happens, it hasn't changed the boot options on the SATA drive (which is my primary boot drive). The boot files for XP64 have been installed on the IDE disk. Initially I though that this may be a problem with using a USB floppy drive to install but it works just fine if I install to the SATA drive, just not when installing to the IDE drive - wtf is going on? Short of just migrating my Win32 boot parition to the IDE disk and booting off the IDE disk for both XP32 and XP64 I don't know what else to do, can anyone offer any guidance here cos I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall now.... Do you leave the floppy in the drive until the setup tells you to take it out? I think the setup looks for the driver twice, once when it asks after pressing F6 and again when it is actually copying files during setup. Go to the Microsoft Forum for XP64. The instructions are on the MS site. There may actually be a problem trying to use a USB floppy, but you can probably get more information in the MS Forum. |
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The Chief wrote:
JasonB wrote: Hi there, snip Short of just migrating my Win32 boot parition to the IDE disk and booting off the IDE disk for both XP32 and XP64 I don't know what else to do, can anyone offer any guidance here cos I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall now.... Do you leave the floppy in the drive until the setup tells you to take it out? I think the setup looks for the driver twice, once when it asks after pressing F6 and again when it is actually copying files during setup. Go to the Microsoft Forum for XP64. The instructions are on the MS site. There may actually be a problem trying to use a USB floppy, but you can probably get more information in the MS Forum. I thought of that, however I rejected that on the basis that setup does actually read the SATA drivers from the USB floppy which allows setup to see both drives. It's when setup tries to copy the drivers to the destination partition that it seems unable to read the USB floppy - strange init! I will ask in the MS Forum though, thanks! -- JasonB To reply, replace nospam4me with blueyonder |
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JasonB wrote:
The Chief wrote: JasonB wrote: Hi there, snip Short of just migrating my Win32 boot parition to the IDE disk and booting off the IDE disk for both XP32 and XP64 I don't know what else to do, can anyone offer any guidance here cos I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall now.... Do you leave the floppy in the drive until the setup tells you to take it out? I think the setup looks for the driver twice, once when it asks after pressing F6 and again when it is actually copying files during setup. Go to the Microsoft Forum for XP64. The instructions are on the MS site. There may actually be a problem trying to use a USB floppy, but you can probably get more information in the MS Forum. I thought of that, however I rejected that on the basis that setup does actually read the SATA drivers from the USB floppy which allows setup to see both drives. It's when setup tries to copy the drivers to the destination partition that it seems unable to read the USB floppy - strange init! I will ask in the MS Forum though, thanks! The other option is to not use the F6 during setup since you're wanting to put XP64 on the IDE drive. I did that on my MSI K8T800 Neo-FSR and a removable IDE. v.1218 loaded drivers for the SATA. The only drawback to that is if you've set up RAID. XP64 would not let me "update" the driver to the "viamraid.sys" after the installation. However, I don't have my 2 SATA drive configured to RAID, they're just C: & D: drive when I boot from SATA 1. |
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The Chief wrote:
JasonB wrote: The Chief wrote: JasonB wrote: Hi there, snip It's when setup tries to copy the drivers to the destination partition that it seems unable to read the USB floppy - strange init! I will ask in the MS Forum though, thanks! The other option is to not use the F6 during setup since you're wanting to put XP64 on the IDE drive. I did that on my MSI K8T800 Neo-FSR and a removable IDE. v.1218 loaded drivers for the SATA. The only drawback to that is if you've set up RAID. XP64 would not let me "update" the driver to the "viamraid.sys" after the installation. However, I don't have my 2 SATA drive configured to RAID, they're just C: & D: drive when I boot from SATA 1. Though of that as well and as far as XP64 setup goes, everything goes well until the reboot. The system files are placed on the destination partition not the SATA drive (which is the primary boot drive). Hence setup can never complete. The only way I can get it to install on the IDE disk is to make the IDE controller the primary boot device which allows me to boot from the IDE driver but then it won't boot off the SATA drive so I've lost my current XP32 partition - Arghh!! There's gotta be an easier way to do this.... -- JasonB To reply, replace nospam4me with blueyonder |
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"JasonB" wrote in message
k... Hi there, I've been trying to install WinXP on to an IDE disk I have in my PC without much luck, at least not without swapping around the disk controller priority in the BIOS which means I can't boot from the SATA drive. I have WinXP and WinXP 64-bit on my MSI NEO, the WinXP on my SATA Raptor ( I also have a 120gb SATA drive, both on the Promise controller ) and the WinXP 64-bit on an IDE. What I did was install my WinXP first, then I switched the boot drive to the IDE and installed WinXP 64-bit, with no SATA drivers. That way, my WinXP installation can see my WinXP 64-bit install - but not visa versa ( i.e. it didn't mess it up on install, but I can manage my WinXP 64-bit partitions from WinXP ). I don't know about your mobo, but mine has the ability to access a boot menu at bootup, so I leave the SATA as the normal boot drive but when I want to boot to WinXP 64-bit I use the boot menu to boot to the IDE drive. |
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newsgroups.bellsouth.net wrote:
"JasonB" wrote in message k... Hi there, I've been trying to install WinXP on to an IDE disk I have in my PC without much luck, at least not without swapping around the disk controller priority in the BIOS which means I can't boot from the SATA drive. I have WinXP and WinXP 64-bit on my MSI NEO, the WinXP on my SATA Raptor ( I also have a 120gb SATA drive, both on the Promise controller ) and the WinXP 64-bit on an IDE. What I did was install my WinXP first, then I switched the boot drive to the IDE and installed WinXP 64-bit, with no SATA drivers. That way, my WinXP installation can see my WinXP 64-bit install - but not visa versa ( i.e. it didn't mess it up on install, but I can manage my WinXP 64-bit partitions from WinXP ). I don't know about your mobo, but mine has the ability to access a boot menu at bootup, so I leave the SATA as the normal boot drive but when I want to boot to WinXP 64-bit I use the boot menu to boot to the IDE drive. I've been doing a bit of researching on this and from the feedback I've had from the private Microsoft XP64 beta test newsgroup popular opinion seems to be that you can't install XP64 if you need to include storage drivers using a USB attached floppy disk. While setup will read in the driver from floppy disk after pressing F6, when it moves to the file copy stage it then attempts to read the floppy disk again. For some reason the USB devices get re-enumerated and the floppy drive can't be found at this stage causing setup to continue prompting to 'insert disk...', the only option is to reboot the computer. When I originally setup XP32 on this machine I had access to a normal floppy drive and used that to install the SATA drivers. Guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy a floppy drive just to install XP64. -- JasonB |
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JasonB wrote:
When I originally setup XP32 on this machine I had access to a normal floppy drive and used that to install the SATA drivers. Guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy a floppy drive just to install XP64. -- JasonB I thought you weren't allowed to have bullets in Gross Britannia! |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:29:45 -0400, The Chief wrote:
When I originally setup XP32 on this machine I had access to a normal floppy drive and used that to install the SATA drivers. Guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy a floppy drive just to install XP64. -- JasonB I thought you weren't allowed to have bullets in Gross Britannia! You can get specially deactivated bullets, for the purposes of biting. -- Nick Roberts |
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For my MSI motherboard, the floppy disk for it has the 64 bit stuff commented out. I separated downloaded the 64bit drivers (viasraid.sys,viasraid.INF) but they have a different name than the commented out driver on the floppy. (viaMraid.sys,viaMraid.INF) I tried change the name on the TXTSETUP.OEM but that didnt seem to work. It accepted thre driver but still claimed not to be able to find the Raptor (WD SATA) drive. Thinking of buying an ADAPTEC SATA card. -- justwaltzing ------------------------------------------------------------------------ justwaltzing's Profile: http://extremetechsupport.com/forum/...tml?userid=760 View this thread: http://extremetechsupport.com/forum/....phtml?t=68963 |
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