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RIB cards and older servers
Hey folks,
I have been trying to figure out why my PL800 (dual 500Mhz, 1GB) server wont recognise the fact (via the mgmt agents) that it has a "management processor", meaning an RILOE II card. My DL360 has the same card installed, including the little ribbon cable, and it shows up just fine. However, with this 800 there isnt anywehere to put such a ribbon cable, and even with a fully configured card, the agents still dont know its there. When enumerating the expansion cards via the MgmtAgents, its listed... Device Manager see's it too as a multifunction adapter. This *might* have something to do with it... I am running 2003 server on this box, which is not strickly supported. I had to shoehorn the non-acpi Advanced System Management Controller driver on the box to get most of the agents to work... I may go back and rebuild the beast as a 2000 server (i would rather not though). Any feedback is appreciated. Ciao, - LC |
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Update:
The DL360 has an RILOE II board, in the supported slot with the "virutual power button cable". The PL800 has an RILOE board, in supported slot 2 (used to be in slot 5, and SCU bitched about it being in slot2)... there is no VPB cable or function for this machine. This means it requires AC Power to be able to remotely do the power thing. Even with the card in the "supported slot" now, the MgmtAgents still dont report the presense of a ManagementProcessor. I checked the support matrix he http://tinyurl.com/25pmd The 800 was originally a: PL800 350/512/64 configuration. Somehow, it has 2 500/1M PIII chips... Compaq confirmed that they "accidently" shipped some 1024K Cached processors as options. This machine got them both at the same time, so it was a bonus. CPQ told me that if there was a Cache mismatch, to send it back for the right one. But since they are both "wrong", and therefore in sync, they said to just keep them and enjoy twice the cache as most people have. I was kinda happy. Any other ideas are appreciated. LC "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Hey folks, I have been trying to figure out why my PL800 (dual 500Mhz, 1GB) server wont recognise the fact (via the mgmt agents) that it has a "management processor", meaning an RILOE II card. My DL360 has the same card installed, including the little ribbon cable, and it shows up just fine. However, with this 800 there isnt anywehere to put such a ribbon cable, and even with a fully configured card, the agents still dont know its there. When enumerating the expansion cards via the MgmtAgents, its listed... Device Manager see's it too as a multifunction adapter. This *might* have something to do with it... I am running 2003 server on this box, which is not strickly supported. I had to shoehorn the non-acpi Advanced System Management Controller driver on the box to get most of the agents to work... I may go back and rebuild the beast as a 2000 server (i would rather not though). Any feedback is appreciated. Ciao, - LC |
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If a Compaq server configured with a Compaq Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition does not contain the server serial number in the server's NVRAM, then Compaq Insight Manager 7 cannot indicate that the server contains the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition. Insight Manager 7 utilizes the server's serial number as the identifying link between the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition and the server. If the system board has been replaced, the serial number may be missing. It can be restored manually. "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Update: The DL360 has an RILOE II board, in the supported slot with the "virutual power button cable". The PL800 has an RILOE board, in supported slot 2 (used to be in slot 5, and SCU bitched about it being in slot2)... there is no VPB cable or function for this machine. This means it requires AC Power to be able to remotely do the power thing. Even with the card in the "supported slot" now, the MgmtAgents still dont report the presense of a ManagementProcessor. I checked the support matrix he http://tinyurl.com/25pmd The 800 was originally a: PL800 350/512/64 configuration. Somehow, it has 2 500/1M PIII chips... Compaq confirmed that they "accidently" shipped some 1024K Cached processors as options. This machine got them both at the same time, so it was a bonus. CPQ told me that if there was a Cache mismatch, to send it back for the right one. But since they are both "wrong", and therefore in sync, they said to just keep them and enjoy twice the cache as most people have. I was kinda happy. Any other ideas are appreciated. LC "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Hey folks, I have been trying to figure out why my PL800 (dual 500Mhz, 1GB) server wont recognise the fact (via the mgmt agents) that it has a "management processor", meaning an RILOE II card. My DL360 has the same card installed, including the little ribbon cable, and it shows up just fine. However, with this 800 there isnt anywehere to put such a ribbon cable, and even with a fully configured card, the agents still dont know its there. When enumerating the expansion cards via the MgmtAgents, its listed... Device Manager see's it too as a multifunction adapter. This *might* have something to do with it... I am running 2003 server on this box, which is not strickly supported. I had to shoehorn the non-acpi Advanced System Management Controller driver on the box to get most of the agents to work... I may go back and rebuild the beast as a 2000 server (i would rather not though). Any feedback is appreciated. Ciao, - LC |
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While I dont necessarily disagree with what you are saying, I find this
information unusual. I am looking at the SystemInformation Screen (via the Agent interface on port 2381), and I see that under AssetControlInformation, the Serial Number is populated. I can only image that the agent is getting this from NVRAM. There is however, as expected, no Asset Tag information as this requires a deliberate action to populate. Please not that NEITHER CIM7 nor the System Management Hompage for the local server report that there is a Management Processor. Something else is afoot at the circle K. So, if I am understanding this correctly, I meet the requirements that you laid out below, however the condition of not having a recognised ManagementProcessor persists. Any other ideas? I may pull the Boot Mirror and replace the disks with another mirror and install 2000 on it just to see what happens. It could be one of the unfortuneate byproducts of running 2003 on this server. /me shrugs LC "Rod R." wrote in message news:tYrsc.18624$af3.960477@attbi_s51... If a Compaq server configured with a Compaq Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition does not contain the server serial number in the server's NVRAM, then Compaq Insight Manager 7 cannot indicate that the server contains the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition. Insight Manager 7 utilizes the server's serial number as the identifying link between the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition and the server. If the system board has been replaced, the serial number may be missing. It can be restored manually. "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Update: The DL360 has an RILOE II board, in the supported slot with the "virutual power button cable". The PL800 has an RILOE board, in supported slot 2 (used to be in slot 5, and SCU bitched about it being in slot2)... there is no VPB cable or function for this machine. This means it requires AC Power to be able to remotely do the power thing. Even with the card in the "supported slot" now, the MgmtAgents still dont report the presense of a ManagementProcessor. I checked the support matrix he http://tinyurl.com/25pmd The 800 was originally a: PL800 350/512/64 configuration. Somehow, it has 2 500/1M PIII chips... Compaq confirmed that they "accidently" shipped some 1024K Cached processors as options. This machine got them both at the same time, so it was a bonus. CPQ told me that if there was a Cache mismatch, to send it back for the right one. But since they are both "wrong", and therefore in sync, they said to just keep them and enjoy twice the cache as most people have. I was kinda happy. Any other ideas are appreciated. LC "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Hey folks, I have been trying to figure out why my PL800 (dual 500Mhz, 1GB) server wont recognise the fact (via the mgmt agents) that it has a "management processor", meaning an RILOE II card. My DL360 has the same card installed, including the little ribbon cable, and it shows up just fine. However, with this 800 there isnt anywehere to put such a ribbon cable, and even with a fully configured card, the agents still dont know its there. When enumerating the expansion cards via the MgmtAgents, its listed... Device Manager see's it too as a multifunction adapter. This *might* have something to do with it... I am running 2003 server on this box, which is not strickly supported. I had to shoehorn the non-acpi Advanced System Management Controller driver on the box to get most of the agents to work... I may go back and rebuild the beast as a 2000 server (i would rather not though). Any feedback is appreciated. Ciao, - LC |
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I'm guessing you are reporting two problems: 1) that the agents don't know
that the system has a "management processor" in it, and 2) that Insight Manager can't associate the RIB card with the system it is plugged into. Is that correct? Regarding #1, I'm guessing that the Homepage only considers Integrated Lights Out (ILO as in the DL360) as Management Processors. The documentation says it should list both iLO and RIB, but I have a 1600, and the Hompage also doesn't report a management processor even though there is a RIB in place. From the Homepage, if you click on Insight Management Agents, is "Remote Insight" checked under Recovery in the lower left frame? If yes, then the agents know the RIB board is there. It's just not getting reported to the Homepage. Regarding #2, my first response was one resolution to this issue. There is another cause to this problem that I am aware of. How do you handle Discovery? Have you created a Hosts File for periodic discoveries? If yes, then the servers and managment processors (RIBs and iLOs) need to all be listed under their respective types. I've seen where the management processor type heading was not included, and all the RIBs were listed as servers and then not associated with their respective server. #$IMXE: TYPE=Server sys.tem.ip.address servername.domain servername #comments [rest of servers] #$IMXE: TYPE="Management Processor" ilo.ip.address ilo #comments [rest of RIBs/iLOs] Hope this helps. "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message news While I dont necessarily disagree with what you are saying, I find this information unusual. I am looking at the SystemInformation Screen (via the Agent interface on port 2381), and I see that under AssetControlInformation, the Serial Number is populated. I can only image that the agent is getting this from NVRAM. There is however, as expected, no Asset Tag information as this requires a deliberate action to populate. Please not that NEITHER CIM7 nor the System Management Hompage for the local server report that there is a Management Processor. Something else is afoot at the circle K. So, if I am understanding this correctly, I meet the requirements that you laid out below, however the condition of not having a recognised ManagementProcessor persists. Any other ideas? I may pull the Boot Mirror and replace the disks with another mirror and install 2000 on it just to see what happens. It could be one of the unfortuneate byproducts of running 2003 on this server. /me shrugs LC "Rod R." wrote in message news:tYrsc.18624$af3.960477@attbi_s51... If a Compaq server configured with a Compaq Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition does not contain the server serial number in the server's NVRAM, then Compaq Insight Manager 7 cannot indicate that the server contains the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition. Insight Manager 7 utilizes the server's serial number as the identifying link between the Remote Insight Lights-Out Edition and the server. If the system board has been replaced, the serial number may be missing. It can be restored manually. "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Update: The DL360 has an RILOE II board, in the supported slot with the "virutual power button cable". The PL800 has an RILOE board, in supported slot 2 (used to be in slot 5, and SCU bitched about it being in slot2)... there is no VPB cable or function for this machine. This means it requires AC Power to be able to remotely do the power thing. Even with the card in the "supported slot" now, the MgmtAgents still dont report the presense of a ManagementProcessor. I checked the support matrix he http://tinyurl.com/25pmd The 800 was originally a: PL800 350/512/64 configuration. Somehow, it has 2 500/1M PIII chips... Compaq confirmed that they "accidently" shipped some 1024K Cached processors as options. This machine got them both at the same time, so it was a bonus. CPQ told me that if there was a Cache mismatch, to send it back for the right one. But since they are both "wrong", and therefore in sync, they said to just keep them and enjoy twice the cache as most people have. I was kinda happy. Any other ideas are appreciated. LC "NuTCrAcKeR" wrote in message ... Hey folks, I have been trying to figure out why my PL800 (dual 500Mhz, 1GB) server wont recognise the fact (via the mgmt agents) that it has a "management processor", meaning an RILOE II card. My DL360 has the same card installed, including the little ribbon cable, and it shows up just fine. However, with this 800 there isnt anywehere to put such a ribbon cable, and even with a fully configured card, the agents still dont know its there. When enumerating the expansion cards via the MgmtAgents, its listed... Device Manager see's it too as a multifunction adapter. This *might* have something to do with it... I am running 2003 server on this box, which is not strickly supported. I had to shoehorn the non-acpi Advanced System Management Controller driver on the box to get most of the agents to work... I may go back and rebuild the beast as a 2000 server (i would rather not though). Any feedback is appreciated. Ciao, - LC |
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