New graphic card

I all,

I am planning on ordering a 6600GT AGP graphics card, maybe this
Thursday.

I was wondering what everyone thinks of the MSI brand? And yes I have
googled.

Right now I am using a Geforce3 TI200 card, this will go to my son.
I would like to keep this system for quite awhile, as I upgraded to
the Abit AI7 last year.

Thanks for your opinions in advance.

System specs:
Abit AI7
OCZ PC3700 1 meg
WD Sata 160 gig hard drive
Antec 400 watt power supply

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:35:15 -0700, lamba wrote:

I all,

I am planning on ordering a 6600GT AGP graphics card, maybe this
Thursday.

I was wondering what everyone thinks of the MSI brand? And yes I have
googled.

Right now I am using a Geforce3 TI200 card, this will go to my son.
I would like to keep this system for quite awhile, as I upgraded to
the Abit AI7 last year.

Thanks for your opinions in advance.

System specs:
Abit AI7
OCZ PC3700 1 meg
WD Sata 160 gig hard drive
Antec 400 watt power supply

i got an msi 6600 diamond, basicly a 20% slower clocked card than the
gt and it is utter crap, im sending it back tomorrow. it couldnt do very
well in doom3, there were also real problems with drivers which skrewed up
windows making it unuasble and after much hassle got it to stop crashing
but the vivo isnt coming up

i thing there are still probs with the agp 6600s and would advise waiting
till the bugs are sorted out

ewan wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:35:15 -0700, lamba wrote:


I all,

I am planning on ordering a 6600GT AGP graphics card, maybe this
Thursday.

I was wondering what everyone thinks of the MSI brand? And yes I have
googled.

Right now I am using a Geforce3 TI200 card, this will go to my son.
I would like to keep this system for quite awhile, as I upgraded to
the Abit AI7 last year.

Thanks for your opinions in advance.

System specs:
Abit AI7
OCZ PC3700 1 meg
WD Sata 160 gig hard drive
Antec 400 watt power supply


i got an msi 6600 diamond, basicly a 20% slower clocked card than the
gt and it is utter crap, im sending it back tomorrow. it couldnt do very
well in doom3, there were also real problems with drivers which skrewed up
windows making it unuasble and after much hassle got it to stop crashing
but the vivo isnt coming up

i thing there are still probs with the agp 6600s and would advise waiting
till the bugs are sorted out

You mean the whole 6600 group, GT or non GT, or just only cards with
6600 chips??

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:31:10 +0800, Alex wrote:

i thing there are still probs with the agp 6600s and would advise
waiting till the bugs are sorted out

You mean the whole 6600 group, GT or non GT, or just only cards with 6600
chips??


the 6600 gpu is designed for pci-express boards, they use an agp adaptor
chip and its very new so is having probs, the 6800s which are desighed for
agp are damn close in price and there are hacks that can give them the
same number of pipelines as 6800gt's and these seem to be the only card
without anything wrong as unfortunatly the 6800gt seems to have a broken
video processor which isnt an issue for gamers but would **** me off a lot

I'm getting the MSI 6600GT AGP in a few days. To me it offers the most
bang for the buck.


Good Points

1) Reasonably priced

2) VIVO

3) Large Copper heatsink cools GPU and memory

4) Includes a large Software bundle

5) Performance on par with the 6600GT series


Bad Points

1) Temperature monitor disabled or non existant, but most likely just
not enabled in bios

2) Might have a heatsink problem. It won't fall off on the AGP model
because it is screwed to the metal brace on the back of the card. The
heatsink is so large and there are only two pins though so I think the
heatsink has a tendency to rock up off of the core.


So I suggest if you get the MSI to keep a watch on the pads that cover
the memory under the heatsink. If the heatsink rocks off the core you
will see space between the pads and the memory chips.

The first thing I am gonna do is make a mental note of any space
between the heatsink and the GPU and memory.

Then I am gonna stress the card for at least 24 hours and then check
the spacing again. I think the heat is making the stickiness on the
thermal pads loosen up so the heatsink lets go of the pads and rocks
off of the core. If that is the case a fix would be to put a small pad
under both sides the heatsink so it can't rock on the axis of the
support bar.

On 25 Jan 2005 21:18:33 -0800, "PRIVATE1964"
wrote:

I'm getting the MSI 6600GT AGP in a few days. To me it offers the most
bang for the buck.


Good Points

1) Reasonably priced

2) VIVO

3) Large Copper heatsink cools GPU and memory

4) Includes a large Software bundle

5) Performance on par with the 6600GT series


Bad Points

1) Temperature monitor disabled or non existant, but most likely just
not enabled in bios

2) Might have a heatsink problem. It won't fall off on the AGP model
because it is screwed to the metal brace on the back of the card. The
heatsink is so large and there are only two pins though so I think the
heatsink has a tendency to rock up off of the core.


So I suggest if you get the MSI to keep a watch on the pads that cover
the memory under the heatsink. If the heatsink rocks off the core you
will see space between the pads and the memory chips.

The first thing I am gonna do is make a mental note of any space
between the heatsink and the GPU and memory.

Then I am gonna stress the card for at least 24 hours and then check
the spacing again. I think the heat is making the stickiness on the
thermal pads loosen up so the heatsink lets go of the pads and rocks
off of the core. If that is the case a fix would be to put a small pad
under both sides the heatsink so it can't rock on the axis of the
support bar.

It seems like the best bang for the buck to me also .

I have decided to wait until late February, or early March, I am
expecting a really good income tax check by that time.

Please post on what you find out with your experiment, and how you
like the card. Thank you very much for your post.

Laurie

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:04:10 GMT, ewan wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:35:15 -0700, lamba wrote:

I all,

I am planning on ordering a 6600GT AGP graphics card, maybe this
Thursday.

I was wondering what everyone thinks of the MSI brand? And yes I have
googled.

Right now I am using a Geforce3 TI200 card, this will go to my son.
I would like to keep this system for quite awhile, as I upgraded to
the Abit AI7 last year.

Thanks for your opinions in advance.

System specs:
Abit AI7
OCZ PC3700 1 meg
WD Sata 160 gig hard drive
Antec 400 watt power supply

i got an msi 6600 diamond, basicly a 20% slower clocked card than the
gt and it is utter crap, im sending it back tomorrow. it couldnt do very
well in doom3, there were also real problems with drivers which skrewed up
windows making it unuasble and after much hassle got it to stop crashing
but the vivo isnt coming up

i thing there are still probs with the agp 6600s and would advise waiting
till the bugs are sorted out


So, how long should I wait?

Thank you for your reply/

Laurie

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:37:00 GMT, ewan wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:31:10 +0800, Alex wrote:

i thing there are still probs with the agp 6600s and would advise
waiting till the bugs are sorted out

You mean the whole 6600 group, GT or non GT, or just only cards with 6600
chips??


the 6600 gpu is designed for pci-express boards, they use an agp adaptor
chip and its very new so is having probs, the 6800s which are desighed for
agp are damn close in price and there are hacks that can give them the
same number of pipelines as 6800gt's and these seem to be the only card
without anything wrong as unfortunatly the 6800gt seems to have a broken
video processor which isnt an issue for gamers but would **** me off a lot


Thank you for your reply.

I sure will, by then though I will most likely have it modded totally
different.

One mistake in my post that I figured out. If the heatsink is rocking
backwards off the memory and off of the GPU. Then you only need to use
one small pad on the opposite side of the memory. That way the heatsink
can not flip backwards because of the pad, or forward because of the
memory.

Hope this makes sense

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Support Arm

Sorry, I forgot to say your welcome in my last post.