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Old January 16th 05, 02:20 AM
woodsie
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Default which video card for mac G5?

wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?
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Old January 16th 05, 05:35 PM
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"woodsie" wrote in message
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wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?


ATI 9800 Pro 128Mb for G5 systems. Twice the card of a 9600XT.
http://www.welovemacs.com/109a14400.html


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Old January 16th 05, 10:19 PM
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Augustus wrote:
"woodsie" wrote in message
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wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting
a G5 dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video
editing. No game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i
understand to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon
9600XT. will either card be enough or should i get something better?


ATI 9800 Pro 128Mb for G5 systems. Twice the card of a 9600XT.
http://www.welovemacs.com/109a14400.html


I agree, but what a weird offer :-))
"Regular price: $249.49 Sale price: $249.99"

haha...

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Old January 16th 05, 11:04 PM
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Since you do video editing and 3D graphics, you may want to look into cards
that are specifically made for that kind of work. I know nVidia has a line
of cards for this and ATi may, as well.
Here is the link to nVidia's "Quadro" line:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
If you can't find what you need with nVidia or ATi, last ditch would be
Matrox, I guess.

"woodsie" wrote in message
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wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?



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Old January 17th 05, 09:02 PM
Benjamin Gawert
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woodsie wrote:

wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting
a G5 dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video
editing. No game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i
understand to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon
9600XT. will either card be enough or should i get something better?


I have a G5 1.8DP with the FX5200, and it's more than enough for what You
want to do. The card is slow at games but more than sufficient for
everything else. No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D
(something on which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good), and
it's also more than enough for 3D work...

The other cards only bring You some benefit if You're into gaming, but You
already said that this isn't the case. So save the money and better get some
add'l RAM instead...

Benjamin

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Old January 17th 05, 09:04 PM
Benjamin Gawert
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Scotter wrote:

Since you do video editing and 3D graphics, you may want to look into
cards that are specifically made for that kind of work. I know nVidia
has a line of cards for this and ATi may, as well.
Here is the link to nVidia's "Quadro" line:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
If you can't find what you need with nVidia or ATi, last ditch would
be Matrox, I guess.


All nice ideas, but neither the Quadros nor Matrox cards You mentioned work
with a Mac, and that's what the OP has...

Benjamin

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Old January 17th 05, 10:04 PM
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No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on which
all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good


Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets made by
players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel etc...) over the
past 5 years. To be accurate you'd have to say (something on which all
NVidia, ATI, and Matrox cards of the last ...say 3 years... are equally
good)

Tony


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Old January 18th 05, 07:52 AM
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In article , "Benjamin Gawert"
wrote:

woodsie wrote:

wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting
a G5 dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video
editing. No game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i
understand to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon
9600XT. will either card be enough or should i get something better?


I have a G5 1.8DP with the FX5200, and it's more than enough for what You
want to do. The card is slow at games but more than sufficient for
everything else. No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D
(something on which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good), and
it's also more than enough for 3D work...

The other cards only bring You some benefit if You're into gaming, but You
already said that this isn't the case. So save the money and better get some
add'l RAM instead...

Benjamin


thanks for your input.

bit hard to work out what to do when so many people have opposite
opinions. guess i'll start off with someone lower on the list and see how
that goes.
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Old January 19th 05, 11:57 AM
Benjamin Gawert
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woodsie wrote:

thanks for your input.

bit hard to work out what to do when so many people have opposite
opinions. guess i'll start off with someone lower on the list and see
how that goes.


Well, You should know that in PeeCee-Land the FX5200 has a bad reputation
simply because it's too slow for most modern games. It is a full DirectX9
card which supports all the nice goodies but doesn't perform well enough to
be able to be useful for Dx9 games. So that's one reason for negative
feedacks.

The second reason is probably that most people never would buy a FX5200 for
themselves, because it's a low-end card. But most of these people also never
would recommend a FX5200 for other people, despite the fact that not
everyone does gaming and that the FX5200 (or any other card of that price
range) is more than enough for the supposed tasks.

But You're not a gamer, and You also are going to buy a Mac for which the
list of available cards is quite short compared to PC-Land. The FX5200Ultra
Apple sells with the Powermac G5 isn't the fastest card, and if You were
into serious gaming You probably would be much better with i.e. the
Geforce6800 DDL, but for the applications You listed, none of the other
availabe card will bring You _any_ benefit. Just a higher price...

The Apple FX5200U also has a very good analog signal quality (better than
Apples Radeon 9600), and it's passive cooled. A nice thing if You consider
that the Powermac G5 is extremely silent...

Benjamin

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Old January 19th 05, 12:05 PM
Benjamin Gawert
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Tony DiMarzio wrote:

No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on
which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good


Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets
made by players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel
etc...) over the past 5 years.


Not really. Even the UMA gfx chips made by VIA, SIS and intel during the
last 5 years aren't really slower than todays top end cards when it comes to
2D. Differences usually are barely measureable, and certainly not feelable
in real work...

Benjamin

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