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Again... :-( What to buy: FX5900 or 5700/5800 Ultra?
Totally confused and NVidia site makes it even worse...
ok.. first of all what is the difference between 5900, 5700 and 5700 Ultra? 5700 Ultra seems to be the same price as 5900..., makes it even more confusing :-((( Secondly, is there 5800 ? I see it on eBay, but Nvidia site doesn't list it.... Crap, do they always have to f**ck up the naming so badly...? |
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They really hosed the naming, have't they? I understood GF1, GF2, GF3, etc.
But WTF is up with 5600,5800,5900...More importantly, what difference will it make for us using them? "Luke Piasecki" wrote in message le.rogers.com... Totally confused and NVidia site makes it even worse... ok.. first of all what is the difference between 5900, 5700 and 5700 Ultra? 5700 Ultra seems to be the same price as 5900..., makes it even more confusing :-((( Secondly, is there 5800 ? I see it on eBay, but Nvidia site doesn't list it.... Crap, do they always have to f**ck up the naming so badly...? |
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"Luke Piasecki" wrote in message ble.rogers.com...
Totally confused and NVidia site makes it even worse... ok.. first of all what is the difference between 5900, 5700 and 5700 Ultra? 5700 Ultra seems to be the same price as 5900..., makes it even more confusing :-((( Secondly, is there 5800 ? I see it on eBay, but Nvidia site doesn't list it.... Crap, do they always have to f**ck up the naming so badly...? The FX5800 is the "old" 5900, its a nice card but ... design base it's a bad card! And it's limited in performance The FX5900 Non Ultra is a fast card... a very fast nice card :-) The FX5700 Ultra is a budget fast card! It's build to be payable for many people that don't want real budget material ( that is the FX5200 ) yet want a nice fast card! The FX5700 is the "new" FX5600, the FX5600 is a failed product, just like the FX5800... muchos design failures. So simple said the FX5700 Ultra and the FX5900 Non Ultra are both very nice fast cards and a good choice to buy! Just **** the rest, .... Ofcourse a FX5950 Ultra is even nice to have! |
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:33:25 -0700
"Ook" wrote: It's been that way for a long time. ATI drivers have sucked for years. They seemed to have improved for a while, but it seems they are going downhill again. nVidia, OTOH, have had excellent drivers. There was a period of time where they were a bit shaky, back with the 7.x up to about 12.x or so, but they stabalized again. They have been rock solid for a very long time. Then why all the complaints in this newsgroup? 5900....$200....hmm...drool....... "DaveL" wrote in message ... Dammit Lenny. You again? Do you work for ATI? Anytime somebody says anything that is a little critical of your worship you have to crawl out from under your rock. I know usenet is used for getting help. But I CAN make an observation that the ATI ng seems to have a disproportionate amount of people needing help. Dave -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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The pendulum has swung back in Nvidia's favor. The 5900 is currently the
best buy at about $200. And it is a relief to stay Nvidia as their drivers are still far superior to ATI's. Need proof? Just look at these usenet forums. The ATI ng is chock full of cries for help! Dave "Luke Piasecki" wrote in message le.rogers.com... Totally confused and NVidia site makes it even worse... ok.. first of all what is the difference between 5900, 5700 and 5700 Ultra? 5700 Ultra seems to be the same price as 5900..., makes it even more confusing :-((( Secondly, is there 5800 ? I see it on eBay, but Nvidia site doesn't list it.... Crap, do they always have to f**ck up the naming so badly...? |
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The pendulum has swung back in Nvidia's favor. The 5900 is currently the best buy at about $200. Nvidia's antialiasing, which is still completely unchanged since the GF3, is still vastly inferior to ATi's gamma-corrected sparse non-uniformal MSAA. And it is a relief to stay Nvidia as their drivers are still far superior to ATI's. Unfounded. Need proof? Just look at these usenet forums. The ATI ng is chock full of cries for help! Hm, judging by this newsgroup, Nvidia sucks just as bad. ....Guess what, dude? Newsgroups and forums are USED for seeking help! That's a surprise to nobody except you! |
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Dammit Lenny. You again? Do you work for ATI? Anytime somebody says
anything that is a little critical of your worship you have to crawl out from under your rock. I know usenet is used for getting help. But I CAN make an observation that the ATI ng seems to have a disproportionate amount of people needing help. Dave "Lenny" wrote in message ... The pendulum has swung back in Nvidia's favor. The 5900 is currently the best buy at about $200. Nvidia's antialiasing, which is still completely unchanged since the GF3, is still vastly inferior to ATi's gamma-corrected sparse non-uniformal MSAA. And it is a relief to stay Nvidia as their drivers are still far superior to ATI's. Unfounded. Need proof? Just look at these usenet forums. The ATI ng is chock full of cries for help! Hm, judging by this newsgroup, Nvidia sucks just as bad. ...Guess what, dude? Newsgroups and forums are USED for seeking help! That's a surprise to nobody except you! |
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It's been that way for a long time. ATI drivers have sucked for years. They
seemed to have improved for a while, but it seems they are going downhill again. nVidia, OTOH, have had excellent drivers. There was a period of time where they were a bit shaky, back with the 7.x up to about 12.x or so, but they stabalized again. They have been rock solid for a very long time. 5900....$200....hmm...drool....... "DaveL" wrote in message ... Dammit Lenny. You again? Do you work for ATI? Anytime somebody says anything that is a little critical of your worship you have to crawl out from under your rock. I know usenet is used for getting help. But I CAN make an observation that the ATI ng seems to have a disproportionate amount of people needing help. Dave |
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nVidia, OTOH, have had excellent drivers. They have been rock solid for a very long time. I see the 30 series with the infinite loop debacle passed entirely over your head completely unnoticed. Very strange, considering the amount of complaints those drivers generated. From the release notes of the latest driver version (52.16): ----- 8 ------ Clone mode may be set for the GeForce FX 5600 although only one display is connected. This setting causes a drop in the performance of 3D applications. The workaround is to use the NVIDIA control panel to reset the system to standard mode from clone mode. GeForce FX 5950 Ultra: When 4x FSAA is enabled, half of the screen is black in Tiger Woods 2004 introductory video. GeForce4 MX 440 and GeForce4 Ti 4400, Windows XP: Blue-screen crash during Battlefield 1942 Desert Combat. A fix for this issue will be included in the next driver release. GeForce FX 5950 Ultra: Homeworld2 antialiased performance is slow. This is a known issue with the application. NVIDIA is working with the developer to address it. GeForce FX 5950 Ultra and GeForce4 Ti 4400, Windows XP: Rendering corruption in Battlefield 1942 Desert Combat. A fix for this issue will be included in the next driver release. GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, Windows XP: "X2: The Threat" benchmark is choppy or jerky in some places. A fix for this issue will be included in the next driver release. Windows XP: Antialiasing doesn't appear to be working in Final Fantasy XI benchmark. This is a known issue with the application. NVIDIA is working with the developer to address it. All GeForce FX: Intermittently, Warcraft III videos are not displayed properly on some systems. A fix for this issue will be included in the next driver release. ----- 8 ------ These are merely the bugs Nvidia *KNEW* about when they *released* the driver! Rock solid my arse! 5900....$200....hmm...drool....... I guess, if you enjoy the slow pixel shading performance and poor AA quality of the GFFX series, that's an OK price to pay for a fundamentally flawed product... |
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"DaveL" wrote in message ...
The pendulum has swung back in Nvidia's favor. The 5900 is currently the best buy at about $200. And it is a relief to stay Nvidia as their drivers are still far superior to ATI's. Need proof? Just look at these usenet forums. The ATI ng is chock full of cries for help! Dave "Luke Piasecki" wrote in message le.rogers.com... Totally confused and NVidia site makes it even worse... ok.. first of all what is the difference between 5900, 5700 and 5700 Ultra? 5700 Ultra seems to be the same price as 5900..., makes it even more confusing :-((( Secondly, is there 5800 ? I see it on eBay, but Nvidia site doesn't list it.... Crap, do they always have to f**ck up the naming so badly...? Maybe, the 5900 is a very fast good card and it's low price indeed serves a good level. Very probable indeed beats the ATI cards in that range! But only with the nv40 vs r420 we know how the stakes lie in the future! |
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