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Riva TNT drivers
Hello
Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0800
Andrey Tarasevich wrote: Hello Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? If you investigate you will find that the most recent drivers reached via the Riva 128 path are the ones for Windows 98 and the files dated March, 1999. -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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riva tnt cards are included in the geforce and tnt2 card drivers
"Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message ... Hello Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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J.Clarke wrote:
Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? If you investigate you will find that the most recent drivers reached via the Riva 128 path are the ones for Windows 98 and the files dated March, 1999. ... Great. Now why don't they provide teh same type of link for TNT drivers, no matter how old? -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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riva tnt cards are included in the geforce and tnt2 card drivers Interesting. They went as far as providing an extensive list of supported hardware. But there isn't a single TNT card mentioned in the list. Anyway, thanks for your reply. I'll try using 'GeForce and TNT2' drivers. "Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message ... Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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The WHQL versions of the drivers don't have the TNT1 cards in the .inf file.
You can easily add the missing bits to support these cards and then install the driver. The 52.16 driver works great on the TNT cards that I have here, both PCI and AGP versions. The non WHQL drivers all had TNT support as do most of the beta and oem versions you see referenced here. Still it is easy to fix for any of the drivers. nVidia has said that their unified architecture means that new drivers work with old cards and vice versa. It is just a matter of whether the appropriate entries are in the inf file. If they are missing, just add them back in. You can also use the quadro certified drivers which usually have TNT support. "Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message ... Hello Driver download area on nVidia's Web site has drivers for 'GeForce and TNT2' cards and for 'RIVA 128' cards. What about Riva TNT cards? Are they no longer supported? Where's the logic in dropping driver support for TNT while still supporting the ancient Riva 128? -- Best regards, Andrey Tarasevich |
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:38:40 GMT, "default"
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom: The WHQL versions of the drivers don't have the TNT1 cards in the .inf file. You can easily add the missing bits to support these cards and then install the driver. The 52.16 driver works great on the TNT cards that I have here, both PCI and AGP versions. The non WHQL drivers all had TNT support as do most of the beta and oem versions you see referenced here. Still it is easy to fix for any of the drivers. nVidia has said that their unified architecture means that new drivers work with old cards and vice versa. It is just a matter of whether the appropriate entries are in the inf file. If they are missing, just add them back in. You can also use the quadro certified drivers which usually have TNT support. But doing that causes you to deal with all the broken games, usually older ones. (many people have said that UT is corrupted in the 52.16). When you're card doesn't support T&L, and you're playing older non T&L games, why not use a known good driver, such as the 21 series drivers, or the 30.82's, etc ? of course it may be hard to find an older driver set these days. I used to have -every- driver released from 5.13 to the 43's on my HD, until my D: drive failed and I didn't bother to copy the drivers away when I could (not like I had a use for them...) Gibs When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent", in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console" |
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"Falkentyne" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:38:40 GMT, "default" enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom: The WHQL versions of the drivers don't have the TNT1 cards in the .inf file. You can easily add the missing bits to support these cards and then install the driver. The 52.16 driver works great on the TNT cards that I have here, both PCI and AGP versions. The non WHQL drivers all had TNT support as do most of the beta and oem versions you see referenced here. Still it is easy to fix for any of the drivers. nVidia has said that their unified architecture means that new drivers work with old cards and vice versa. It is just a matter of whether the appropriate entries are in the inf file. If they are missing, just add them back in. You can also use the quadro certified drivers which usually have TNT support. But doing that causes you to deal with all the broken games, usually older ones. (many people have said that UT is corrupted in the 52.16). When you're card doesn't support T&L, and you're playing older non T&L games, why not use a known good driver, such as the 21 series drivers, or the 30.82's, etc ? of course it may be hard to find an older driver set these days. I used to have -every- driver released from 5.13 to the 43's on my HD, until my D: drive failed and I didn't bother to copy the drivers away when I could (not like I had a use for them...) So far it hasn't been a problem. I still have all the detonator drivers for the card going all the way back to driver 0.36 and 0.48 and then the first detonator 1.09 etc. I bought the TNT cards (diamond viper v550 16mb pci and agp) when they first came out. I have upgraded the nVidia drivers as they came out along the way. With the 52.16 drivers, it still seems to work well and many new features have been added to the drivers that make the card nicer to use. Nothing appears to have been lost and the better D3D and openGL support have allowed the card to continue to be able to run recent software even if it is too slow to be able to really use on current games, at least it works. Also for CAD applications, the performance of these old cards has still improved as the openGL support has improved. I bought the TNT cards in late 1998. How many other 5 year old graphic cards are still getting driver updates? I have no complaints with regard to the TNT1 cards. |
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In article kXdpb.261108$9l5.85762@pd7tw2no,
default wrote: The WHQL versions of the drivers don't have the TNT1 cards in the .inf file. You can easily add the missing bits to support these cards and then install the driver. The 52.16 driver works great on the TNT cards that I have here, both PCI and AGP versions. The non WHQL drivers all had TNT support as do most of the beta and oem versions you see referenced here. Still it is easy to fix for any of the drivers. nVidia has said that their unified architecture means that new drivers work with old cards and vice versa. It is just a matter of whether the appropriate entries are in the inf file. If they are missing, just add them back in. You can also use the quadro certified drivers which usually have TNT support. I also have an old Riva TNT card (Viper 550 , for which I would like to install more up-to-date drivers than what WinXP has out of the box. How do I add the info you mention here to the 52.16 (or other versions) drivers of the NVIDIA drivers? Best regards, Patrick. |
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Very simple. Only two lines are missing from the .inf file.
Start the driver installer for 52.16, let it install as far as the license agreement. Say no to the licence agreement and cancel before the driver install starts. The drivers will be unpacked to C:\NVIDIA\Win2KXP\52.16 Now edit nv4_disp.inf. If you use notepad, then turn off word wrap in the format pulldown. Scroll down to the section: [NVIDIA.Mfg] and add the following line: %NVIDIA_NV04.DEV_0020.1% = nv4_TNTxClass, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0020 Ideally insert it just above the one for dev_0028 card. This adds the support for the NV4 cards (TNT1) like viper v550. Now scroll down the the section labeled: [Strings] and a bit further to ; Localizable Strings insert the line: NVIDIA_NV04.DEV_0020.1 = "NVIDIA RIVA TNT" put it between the Aladdin and TNT2 cards. This sets the string for the driver name in device manager. Now save the file and run setup.exe from the 52.16 folder. Now it should recognize your TNT card without trouble. Works great here on both PCI and AGP Viper V550 16mb cards. Good luck. "Patrick Vervoorn" wrote in message ... I also have an old Riva TNT card (Viper 550 , for which I would like to install more up-to-date drivers than what WinXP has out of the box. How do I add the info you mention here to the 52.16 (or other versions) drivers of the NVIDIA drivers? Best regards, Patrick. |
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