52.16 driver consider harmful

Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.

After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on.

Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when
attempting to view GeForce configuration.

I uninstall the driver and try installing again.

This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting.

Boot in safe mode, remove driver.

Install old driver version (41.09).

Driver *does not install*. No error given.

After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section
missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this
error.

After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost
image.

I'm *not* pleased.

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day
of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.

--
Callas

Many of us have installed the driver without any problems. You did not
mention which operating system you were using so if you are using Windows XP
or Windows ME then try a system restore point prior to the problem in
question. You can initialize a restore point from the safe mode. Generally
speaking drivers do not cause this problem but rather a conflict with a
program running in the background is to blame, ( which interfered with the
installation of the driver).

regards

B
"Callas" wrote in message
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Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.

After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on.

Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when
attempting to view GeForce configuration.

I uninstall the driver and try installing again.

This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting.

Boot in safe mode, remove driver.

Install old driver version (41.09).

Driver *does not install*. No error given.

After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section
missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this
error.

After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost
image.

I'm *not* pleased.

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day
of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.

--
Callas

Callas wrote:
Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.

After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on.

Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when
attempting to view GeForce configuration.

I uninstall the driver and try installing again.

This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting.

Boot in safe mode, remove driver.

Install old driver version (41.09).

Driver *does not install*. No error given.

After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error
"section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently
discard this error.

After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost
image.

I'm *not* pleased.

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a
day of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.


LOL. Go read. Cat 3.5 and 3.8 have had their own issues. 3.8 is a big
improvement over earlier Cats but there are people who have systems thet
don't like 3.8 just like there are people who have systems that don't like
52.16 Dets. Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a
game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running
before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while
using the drivers that came with your card?

If you are going to swap drivers, there can be consequences. That goes for
video cards, audio cards, or any sort of system device, for that matter. If
you are not satisfied when your system is already running OK, and you choose
to change drivers or tweek settings, then you should be prepared to "waste a
day" and occasionally "**** your PC up" and maybe even be forced to "revert
to a backup". If you are not prepared to do that, hire a professional when
you need to change devices or upgrade drivers or etc.

Wanna be a geek? Seriously, do you want anyone in the world to beleive you
are competant to do administration of your own system? If so, quit your
whinging. If not, hire someone who is competant.

"i'm_tired" wrote in message
news:VSVmb.28109$9E1.96764@attbi_s52...
Callas wrote:
Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.

After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on.

Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when
attempting to view GeForce configuration.

I uninstall the driver and try installing again.

This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting.

Boot in safe mode, remove driver.

Install old driver version (41.09).

Driver *does not install*. No error given.

After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error
"section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently
discard this error.

After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost
image.

I'm *not* pleased.

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a
day of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.


snip
Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a
game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running
before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while
using the drivers that came with your card?

If you are going to swap drivers, there can be consequences. That goes
for
video cards, audio cards, or any sort of system device, for that matter.
If
you are not satisfied when your system is already running OK, and you
choose
to change drivers or tweek settings, then you should be prepared to "waste
a
day" and occasionally "**** your PC up" and maybe even be forced to
"revert
to a backup". If you are not prepared to do that, hire a professional
when
you need to change devices or upgrade drivers or etc.

Wanna be a geek? Seriously, do you want anyone in the world to beleive
you
are competant to do administration of your own system? If so, quit your
whinging. If not, hire someone who is competant.

Often the new drivers bring enhanced operation. Many people say that the
52.16s did so. Many more of us have had many problems after installing them.
I personally never had a problem just installing an Nvidia driver over
another. With the ATI cards in other of my machines, youhad to wipe out
anything that had to do with ATI before installing new drivers. I even did
that with the 52.16s, and still had it go crazy on me, when playing
Battlefield 1942. (this on a clean install of XP, coincidentally)
Good Luck!
BB

Billy_Bat wrote:
[snip]

Often the new drivers bring enhanced operation. Many people say that the
52.16s did so. Many more of us have had many problems after installing them.
I personally never had a problem just installing an Nvidia driver over
another. With the ATI cards in other of my machines, youhad to wipe out
anything that had to do with ATI before installing new drivers. I even did
that with the 52.16s, and still had it go crazy on me, when playing
Battlefield 1942. (this on a clean install of XP, coincidentally)
Good Luck!

I'd say a valid conclusion we could draw is: "no drivers works on all
machines in this world".

I installed the 52.16 without any uninstallation done in advance (I
usually don't do that anyway). So far everything runs fine.

"Callas" wrote in message
...

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day
of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

This is an unqualified true statement. However, the state of computer
engineering as it is, you have to take proactive measures to ensure that any
system level changes you make to your PC will not bork it.

The Detonator Suites, as a rule, are well behaved and low-risk, however each
install is different and you need to ensure your system is competently
prepped, prior to install.

Not knowing you personally, nor your PC, It would be rash of me to accuse
you of doing something wrong, however something did go wrong, and that
problem has not been addressed. If you wish to try again, I and others here,
will help you try and get your PC up to speed.


To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.

This is an intellectually incomplete decision, please rethink it.

Callas wrote:
Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.

After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on.

Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when
attempting to view GeForce configuration.

I uninstall the driver and try installing again.

This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting.

Boot in safe mode, remove driver.

Install old driver version (41.09).

Driver *does not install*. No error given.

After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section
missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this
error.

After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost
image.

I'm *not* pleased.

Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day
of my time and require me to revert to a backup.

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.

It only takes a minute to restore XP to a state prior to 52.16 screwing
up ~unless~ you have disabled XP's System Restore. XP creates restore
points automatically, so it is just a matter of going to "Start-Help
and Support-Undo changes to your computer with System Restore" and
selecting a suitable restore point.

You're not the only one having problems with 52.16. After playing
around with Dual Display settings, the MSI clock values in Display
Properties became unintelligable and could not be reset even by
reinstalling 44.03. So I chose a restore point where 52.16 was installed
and the MSI Clock dialog was working.

Cheers,
Tony.

" To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI."

Yep great move! I'm still waiting for a good driver........ on my ATI.

I own both so have plenty of experience of naff drivers.

Managed to get 52.16 to work perfect after a little twiddling.

goto

Properties
Settings
Advanced
Troubleshooting

Now you will see

Hardware Acceleration

Set it to NONE

Now remove to TICK from

Enable Write Combining

Now reboot

Once rebooted set Hardware Acceleration to FULL & Enable Write Combining
back on.

This trick has worked on both my Geforce 4400TI & Geforce 4 MX.

Good luck



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wrote:
Many of us have installed the driver without any problems. You did not
mention which operating system you were using so if you are using Windows XP
or Windows ME then try a system restore point prior to the problem in
question. You can initialize a restore point from the safe mode.

Windows 2000.

After five hours of trying to fix it, I restored from my current norton
ghost image. It took about an hour to do, plus an hour to bring the
installation entirely up to date.

Generally
speaking drivers do not cause this problem but rather a conflict with a
program running in the background is to blame, ( which interfered with the
installation of the driver).

I find this hard to believe. Can you provide a reference to where this
has been proved?

--
Callas

wrote:
Callas wrote:

To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI.

LOL. Go read. Cat 3.5 and 3.8 have had their own issues. 3.8 is a big
improvement over earlier Cats but there are people who have systems thet
don't like 3.8 just like there are people who have systems that don't like
52.16 Dets.

The point of changing supplier is not to buy a better product, but to
penalise the original supplier for making such a henious mistake.

Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a
game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running
before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while
using the drivers that came with your card?

Read the post - these questions are specifically ansered.

Moreover, answering the event of a driver which breaks Windows with "why
did you need to upgrade your driver anyway?" is *wrong*.

If you are going to swap drivers, there can be consequences. That goes for
video cards, audio cards, or any sort of system device, for that matter.

This does not in *any way* justify a driver breaking the system.

--
Callas