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Old September 9th 03, 07:37 PM
Roger Squires
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Good article he
http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/...esktop/001.htm
Nvidia is hurting and will have to lower IQ again to compete.

rms


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Old September 9th 03, 08:21 PM
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Roger Squires wrote:
Good article he

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/...esktop/001.htm
Nvidia is hurting and will have to lower IQ again to compete.


OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!

No need to start a flame war by cross-posting. And no need to respond to
this if you just have bad things to say about the other
company/product/users.

:-P

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Old September 9th 03, 09:38 PM
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OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!


LOL!

@drian.


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Old September 10th 03, 12:28 AM
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"@drian" wrote in message
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OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!


LOL!

@drian.

Evidentially he regrets purchasing his ATI card.


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Old September 10th 03, 12:49 AM
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said:

"@drian" wrote in message
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OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!


LOL!

@drian.

Evidentially he regrets purchasing his ATI card.


Why would he 'evident[ly]' regret purchasing an ATI card?
From the article:

I don’t know how anyone could objectively look at the performance we’ve seen
in these benchmarks and conclude that a 5900 Ultra is a smarter buying
decision than a 9800 Pro – even the 128MB 9800 Pro (as used in the tests
here) trumps the lofty 256MB 5900 Ultra. If you’re still “stuck in the past”
and think that ATI is plagued with driver issues, than go ahead and keep
your head stuck in the sand like an ostrich, buy a 5900 Ultra and then start
crying when your pals are smoking your ass in games like Half Life 2 and
Halo because they’re running ATI hardware.

What can NVIDIA do right now to turn things around? First off, lower the
damn price of its high-end cards – even if they were priced the same, a 9800
Pro would be a better choice for Pixel Shader 2.0 performance. Secondly,
they’d better pull out every stop in their playbook of tricks to fine-tune
their drivers.

We have no doubt that NVIDIA is hard at work right now on its next-gen
silicon, which will undoubtedly be extremely fast – for their sake and the
sake of gamers like us, it had better be!






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Old September 10th 03, 09:54 AM
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ginfest wrote:
"@drian" wrote in message
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OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!


LOL!

@drian.

Evidentially he regrets purchasing his ATI card.


Actually I don't. I'm incredibly impressed by the speed and visual quality
of the graphics. Turning on 2xAA works for a start. I could have spent
more money on an nVidia and card and had less speed and less graphics
quality, but that sounds like a lose, lose, lose situation to me.

Admittedly Linux 3D Driver support is far better from nVidia than ATI, but
it's not like I'll be giving up Windows completely and playing games in
Linux. Not for a considerably while anyway. For a start getting most games
don't even support Linux. I have very little use for 3D graphics in Linux.

I'm happy with my purchase, and if somebody offered me the two cards (nVidia
5900 Ultra vs 9800 Pro) at the same price (Under £300) - I'd go with the ATI
again.

Thank you.

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Old September 10th 03, 09:55 AM
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Strontium wrote:
Why would he 'evident[ly]' regret purchasing an ATI card?


Regretful nVidia purchaser in denial.

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Old September 10th 03, 11:13 AM
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"Ben Pope" wrote in message
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ginfest wrote:
"@drian" wrote in message
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OK, thats the 3rd time today (inthe ATI group, at least)....

We've seen the link!!!!

LOL!

@drian.

Evidentially he regrets purchasing his ATI card.


Actually I don't. I'm incredibly impressed by the speed and visual

quality
of the graphics. Turning on 2xAA works for a start. I could have spent
more money on an nVidia and card and had less speed and less graphics
quality, but that sounds like a lose, lose, lose situation to me.

I'm just wondering what card you have? I don't run ANY games at less than
6XAA and they run superb (apart from command and conquer generals that is,
but that's badly coded anyway, could have a super super system and it
wouldn't run)


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Old September 10th 03, 11:20 AM
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methylenedioxy wrote:
I'm just wondering what card you have? I don't run ANY games at less
than 6XAA and they run superb (apart from command and conquer
generals that is, but that's badly coded anyway, could have a super
super system and it wouldn't run)


I'm using a Crucial 9800 Pro.

I've only really played a couple of games... GTA Vice City and Splinter
Cell, both at 1600x1200 with 6xAA and 8xAF, and everything set to quality
and no slow downs whatsoever. Some of the scenes in Splinter Cell are very
pretty - some really nice lighting effects - haven't played it very much to
be honest.

That was when I had my XP2500 at 200MHz x 11 - it's at default at the
moment, pending troubleshooting of the occasional error in Prime95. I don't
expect any slowdowns at this CPU speed though.

Ben
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Old September 10th 03, 11:27 AM
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"Ben Pope" wrote in message
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methylenedioxy wrote:
I'm just wondering what card you have? I don't run ANY games at less
than 6XAA and they run superb (apart from command and conquer
generals that is, but that's badly coded anyway, could have a super
super system and it wouldn't run)


I'm using a Crucial 9800 Pro.

I've only really played a couple of games... GTA Vice City and Splinter
Cell, both at 1600x1200 with 6xAA and 8xAF, and everything set to quality
and no slow downs whatsoever. Some of the scenes in Splinter Cell are

very
pretty - some really nice lighting effects - haven't played it very much

to
be honest.

That was when I had my XP2500 at 200MHz x 11 - it's at default at the
moment, pending troubleshooting of the occasional error in Prime95. I

don't
expect any slowdowns at this CPU speed though.

Ben
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I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...

Interesting read, were you aware that Splinter Cell doesn't actually support
AA? It also makes the game go "wonky" as in not run properly with AA
switched on...


 




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