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Old July 3rd 03, 02:54 PM
Bratboy
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Default Having display problems and not sure whats wrong, pls advise (kinda lengthy)

Okay approx 3 wks ago My monitor started doing some freaky things with no
known changes having been made to the system & no new drivers or anything.
Nothing new hardware wise, no magnetics in the area etc. Powering off the
monitor for a min or 2 and pwring back up image is perfect...for a few
minutes then starts flaking out again.

Things my system is doing:
a) Developed a bow in the image on the right hand side tht sometimes
increases in pitch then eases back (window edges are curved not straight)
b) Actually entire Desktop has a bow now, the black edge on the left is even
curved
c) Desktop image would slowly shift left about 1/4-1/2 " then do the same to
the right
e) Occationally the image actually squezes in a bit so that you have 1/4-1/2
" black edge to one side while the image is still alligned on the other.
f) certain of the OSD settings like Pin Ballence and such only seem to work
intermittantly
g) Then it decided a few times yesterday that after it got too bowed the
monitor went into standby mode and would only come back by repushing the
pwr button.

At the same time this all started I noticed the fan for my GF3 was
apparently dieing, removed it and replaced with another fan in case that was
the issue. I sent the monitor in to be checked as it was still under
warrenty and they ran it for 4 days and only prob they saw was the pin
ballence thing not working which a reset of the monitors memory seemed to
fix for them . While it was gone I used the Tvout on my card and never had
any image problems at all so since they couldn't get it to act up they sent
it back to me. Almost as soon as I hooked it up some of the very same things
came back to plauge me, including the issue of some of the OSD options
working intermittantly.

Things I've tried:
I've tried 2 other outlets for the monitors pwr in case it was a buggy
outlet but didnt seem to help.
I rechecked that there was nothing near the monitor that could cause mag
interferance
I have tried other pwr cables as well as using the same ones that worked at
hitachi
I made sure no other cables or wires are near the monitors cables
I have also pulled out fists full of hair trying to figure out whats wrong.
Ive removed and reseated the GRaphics card several times and its set a
factory default for mem and core clocks as it is an OCZ tweaked card I never
did oc it as its default is 215/515 to start with

Is it possible that BOTH have a problem that combined is makeing things
worse. Its odd that Hitachi said it never once did the image thing, that he
saw anyway, but the fact that the OSD's features are only working
intermittantly, which he did see once, and a reset of mem causes em to work
again for a bit would seem to me to imply that there is something wrong with
the monitor. As far as I understand things the OSD features are in the mon
hardware and wouldnt be affected by graphics card or drivers. Since hitachi
didnt seem to see the drift/image prob running at exact same Refersh rate
and Rez Im wondering if that is being caused by the graphics card and its a
combo problem.

Good news is that Hitachi will replace the monitor with a very similar
refurb since they discontinued my model if I wish and the ppl that supplied
my card seem willing to send a replacement to see if that helps but would
really appreciate some advise from a few Guru's especially if any of this
sounds familiar.

Any help or advise will be appreciated as Ive done a bunch of web searches
and I did find one fairly good mon troubleshooting page that described some
of the probs I have as being monitor low pwr supply issues but since Hitachi
didn't see it Im at a loss. I couldnt find any good descritions of graphic
card failure issues to compare mine to tho to see if it is just the card.

Should I bite the bullet and replace em both or does this problem sound
familar to someone out there.

Sincer Thanks
Just Jess




  #2  
Old July 3rd 03, 03:26 PM
Bratboy
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did swap pwr cable already. Vid card cable is hardwired to the monitor so
cant switch it but its the same one that supposedly worked at the Hitachi
place. Like I said they already said would replace with a diff model 19"
only real diff tween this one and the one they will send as replacement is
that it uses a samsung tube instead of a Hitachi tube otherwise almost
exactly same specs, think its an inch deeper front to back than my current
one but same VA, dot pitch and features. I just thought I'd ask here before
makeing them do it if someone else recognized the prob as being something
else.
Just Jess

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Least expensive try: replace the cable from the monitor to the card.
Most expensive try: replace the monitor.

Your pick.

-
Bratboy stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:

Okay approx 3 wks ago My monitor started doing some freaky things
with no known changes having been made to the system & no new drivers
or anything. Nothing new hardware wise, no magnetics in the area etc.
Powering off the monitor for a min or 2 and pwring back up image is
perfect...for a few minutes then starts flaking out again.

Things my system is doing:
a) Developed a bow in the image on the right hand side tht sometimes
increases in pitch then eases back (window edges are curved not
straight) b) Actually entire Desktop has a bow now, the black edge on
the left is even curved
c) Desktop image would slowly shift left about 1/4-1/2 " then do the
same to the right
e) Occationally the image actually squezes in a bit so that you have
1/4-1/2 " black edge to one side while the image is still alligned on
the other.
f) certain of the OSD settings like Pin Ballence and such only seem
to work intermittantly
g) Then it decided a few times yesterday that after it got too bowed
the monitor went into standby mode and would only come back by
repushing the pwr button.

At the same time this all started I noticed the fan for my GF3 was
apparently dieing, removed it and replaced with another fan in case
that was the issue. I sent the monitor in to be checked as it was
still under warrenty and they ran it for 4 days and only prob they
saw was the pin ballence thing not working which a reset of the
monitors memory seemed to fix for them . While it was gone I used the
Tvout on my card and never had any image problems at all so since
they couldn't get it to act up they sent it back to me. Almost as
soon as I hooked it up some of the very same things came back to
plauge me, including the issue of some of the OSD options working
intermittantly.

Things I've tried:
I've tried 2 other outlets for the monitors pwr in case it was a buggy
outlet but didnt seem to help.
I rechecked that there was nothing near the monitor that could cause
mag interferance
I have tried other pwr cables as well as using the same ones that
worked at hitachi
I made sure no other cables or wires are near the monitors cables
I have also pulled out fists full of hair trying to figure out whats
wrong. Ive removed and reseated the GRaphics card several times and
its set a factory default for mem and core clocks as it is an OCZ
tweaked card I never did oc it as its default is 215/515 to start with

Is it possible that BOTH have a problem that combined is makeing
things worse. Its odd that Hitachi said it never once did the image
thing, that he saw anyway, but the fact that the OSD's features are
only working intermittantly, which he did see once, and a reset of
mem causes em to work again for a bit would seem to me to imply that
there is something wrong with the monitor. As far as I understand
things the OSD features are in the mon hardware and wouldnt be
affected by graphics card or drivers. Since hitachi didnt seem to see
the drift/image prob running at exact same Refersh rate and Rez Im
wondering if that is being caused by the graphics card and its a
combo problem.

Good news is that Hitachi will replace the monitor with a very similar
refurb since they discontinued my model if I wish and the ppl that
supplied my card seem willing to send a replacement to see if that
helps but would really appreciate some advise from a few Guru's
especially if any of this sounds familiar.

Any help or advise will be appreciated as Ive done a bunch of web
searches and I did find one fairly good mon troubleshooting page that
described some of the probs I have as being monitor low pwr supply
issues but since Hitachi didn't see it Im at a loss. I couldnt find
any good descritions of graphic card failure issues to compare mine
to tho to see if it is just the card.

Should I bite the bullet and replace em both or does this problem
sound familar to someone out there.

Sincer Thanks
Just Jess


--
Strontium

"I thought I'd lost you, somewhere. But you were, never, really ever
there at all. And, I want to get free..."




  #3  
Old July 4th 03, 09:37 AM
Ron Merts
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If both manufacturers are willing to send replacements under warranty, get
them both. It sounds like it's the monitor fixing to cause some major
headaches for you; but a replacement video card won't hurt. A Samsung tube
in a monitor is not a bad thing at all, they make a great tube/monitor.

Ron

"Bratboy" wrote in message
...
did swap pwr cable already. Vid card cable is hardwired to the monitor so
cant switch it but its the same one that supposedly worked at the Hitachi
place. Like I said they already said would replace with a diff model 19"
only real diff tween this one and the one they will send as replacement is
that it uses a samsung tube instead of a Hitachi tube otherwise almost
exactly same specs, think its an inch deeper front to back than my current
one but same VA, dot pitch and features. I just thought I'd ask here

before
makeing them do it if someone else recognized the prob as being something
else.
Just Jess

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Least expensive try: replace the cable from the monitor to the card.
Most expensive try: replace the monitor.

Your pick.

-
Bratboy stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:

Okay approx 3 wks ago My monitor started doing some freaky things
with no known changes having been made to the system & no new drivers
or anything. Nothing new hardware wise, no magnetics in the area etc.
Powering off the monitor for a min or 2 and pwring back up image is
perfect...for a few minutes then starts flaking out again.

Things my system is doing:
a) Developed a bow in the image on the right hand side tht sometimes
increases in pitch then eases back (window edges are curved not
straight) b) Actually entire Desktop has a bow now, the black edge on
the left is even curved
c) Desktop image would slowly shift left about 1/4-1/2 " then do the
same to the right
e) Occationally the image actually squezes in a bit so that you have
1/4-1/2 " black edge to one side while the image is still alligned on
the other.
f) certain of the OSD settings like Pin Ballence and such only seem
to work intermittantly
g) Then it decided a few times yesterday that after it got too bowed
the monitor went into standby mode and would only come back by
repushing the pwr button.

At the same time this all started I noticed the fan for my GF3 was
apparently dieing, removed it and replaced with another fan in case
that was the issue. I sent the monitor in to be checked as it was
still under warrenty and they ran it for 4 days and only prob they
saw was the pin ballence thing not working which a reset of the
monitors memory seemed to fix for them . While it was gone I used the
Tvout on my card and never had any image problems at all so since
they couldn't get it to act up they sent it back to me. Almost as
soon as I hooked it up some of the very same things came back to
plauge me, including the issue of some of the OSD options working
intermittantly.

Things I've tried:
I've tried 2 other outlets for the monitors pwr in case it was a buggy
outlet but didnt seem to help.
I rechecked that there was nothing near the monitor that could cause
mag interferance
I have tried other pwr cables as well as using the same ones that
worked at hitachi
I made sure no other cables or wires are near the monitors cables
I have also pulled out fists full of hair trying to figure out whats
wrong. Ive removed and reseated the GRaphics card several times and
its set a factory default for mem and core clocks as it is an OCZ
tweaked card I never did oc it as its default is 215/515 to start with

Is it possible that BOTH have a problem that combined is makeing
things worse. Its odd that Hitachi said it never once did the image
thing, that he saw anyway, but the fact that the OSD's features are
only working intermittantly, which he did see once, and a reset of
mem causes em to work again for a bit would seem to me to imply that
there is something wrong with the monitor. As far as I understand
things the OSD features are in the mon hardware and wouldnt be
affected by graphics card or drivers. Since hitachi didnt seem to see
the drift/image prob running at exact same Refersh rate and Rez Im
wondering if that is being caused by the graphics card and its a
combo problem.

Good news is that Hitachi will replace the monitor with a very similar
refurb since they discontinued my model if I wish and the ppl that
supplied my card seem willing to send a replacement to see if that
helps but would really appreciate some advise from a few Guru's
especially if any of this sounds familiar.

Any help or advise will be appreciated as Ive done a bunch of web
searches and I did find one fairly good mon troubleshooting page that
described some of the probs I have as being monitor low pwr supply
issues but since Hitachi didn't see it Im at a loss. I couldnt find
any good descritions of graphic card failure issues to compare mine
to tho to see if it is just the card.

Should I bite the bullet and replace em both or does this problem
sound familar to someone out there.

Sincer Thanks
Just Jess


--
Strontium

"I thought I'd lost you, somewhere. But you were, never, really ever
there at all. And, I want to get free..."






  #4  
Old July 4th 03, 09:47 AM
Strontium
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Hear! Hear!

Samsung is quality, in the CRT field. MHO.

-
Ron Merts stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:

If both manufacturers are willing to send replacements under
warranty, get them both. It sounds like it's the monitor fixing to
cause some major headaches for you; but a replacement video card
won't hurt. A Samsung tube in a monitor is not a bad thing at all,
they make a great tube/monitor.

Ron

"Bratboy" wrote in message
...
did swap pwr cable already. Vid card cable is hardwired to the
monitor so cant switch it but its the same one that supposedly
worked at the Hitachi place. Like I said they already said would
replace with a diff model 19" only real diff tween this one and the
one they will send as replacement is that it uses a samsung tube
instead of a Hitachi tube otherwise almost exactly same specs, think
its an inch deeper front to back than my current one but same VA,
dot pitch and features. I just thought I'd ask here before makeing
them do it if someone else recognized the prob as being something
else.
Just Jess

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Least expensive try: replace the cable from the monitor to the card.
Most expensive try: replace the monitor.

Your pick.

-
Bratboy stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:

Okay approx 3 wks ago My monitor started doing some freaky things
with no known changes having been made to the system & no new
drivers or anything. Nothing new hardware wise, no magnetics in
the area etc. Powering off the monitor for a min or 2 and pwring
back up image is perfect...for a few minutes then starts flaking
out again.

Things my system is doing:
a) Developed a bow in the image on the right hand side tht
sometimes increases in pitch then eases back (window edges are
curved not straight) b) Actually entire Desktop has a bow now, the
black edge on the left is even curved
c) Desktop image would slowly shift left about 1/4-1/2 " then do
the same to the right
e) Occationally the image actually squezes in a bit so that you
have 1/4-1/2 " black edge to one side while the image is still
alligned on the other.
f) certain of the OSD settings like Pin Ballence and such only seem
to work intermittantly
g) Then it decided a few times yesterday that after it got too
bowed the monitor went into standby mode and would only come back
by repushing the pwr button.

At the same time this all started I noticed the fan for my GF3 was
apparently dieing, removed it and replaced with another fan in case
that was the issue. I sent the monitor in to be checked as it was
still under warrenty and they ran it for 4 days and only prob they
saw was the pin ballence thing not working which a reset of the
monitors memory seemed to fix for them . While it was gone I used
the Tvout on my card and never had any image problems at all so
since they couldn't get it to act up they sent it back to me.
Almost as soon as I hooked it up some of the very same things came
back to plauge me, including the issue of some of the OSD options
working intermittantly.

Things I've tried:
I've tried 2 other outlets for the monitors pwr in case it was a
buggy outlet but didnt seem to help.
I rechecked that there was nothing near the monitor that could
cause mag interferance
I have tried other pwr cables as well as using the same ones that
worked at hitachi
I made sure no other cables or wires are near the monitors cables
I have also pulled out fists full of hair trying to figure out
whats wrong. Ive removed and reseated the GRaphics card several
times and its set a factory default for mem and core clocks as it
is an OCZ tweaked card I never did oc it as its default is 215/515
to start with

Is it possible that BOTH have a problem that combined is makeing
things worse. Its odd that Hitachi said it never once did the image
thing, that he saw anyway, but the fact that the OSD's features are
only working intermittantly, which he did see once, and a reset of
mem causes em to work again for a bit would seem to me to imply
that there is something wrong with the monitor. As far as I
understand things the OSD features are in the mon hardware and
wouldnt be affected by graphics card or drivers. Since hitachi
didnt seem to see the drift/image prob running at exact same
Refersh rate and Rez Im wondering if that is being caused by the
graphics card and its a combo problem.

Good news is that Hitachi will replace the monitor with a very
similar refurb since they discontinued my model if I wish and the
ppl that supplied my card seem willing to send a replacement to
see if that helps but would really appreciate some advise from a
few Guru's especially if any of this sounds familiar.

Any help or advise will be appreciated as Ive done a bunch of web
searches and I did find one fairly good mon troubleshooting page
that described some of the probs I have as being monitor low pwr
supply issues but since Hitachi didn't see it Im at a loss. I
couldnt find any good descritions of graphic card failure issues
to compare mine to tho to see if it is just the card.

Should I bite the bullet and replace em both or does this problem
sound familar to someone out there.

Sincer Thanks
Just Jess

--
Strontium

"I thought I'd lost you, somewhere. But you were, never, really
ever there at all. And, I want to get free..."


--
Strontium

"I thought I'd lost you, somewhere. But you were, never, really
ever there at all. And, I want to get free..."


 




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