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Value of integrated graphics on mobo?
Lem wrote:
Approximately what would it cost to buy a seperate graphics card offering the same sort of quality as the integrated graphics on a quality motherboard like: Asus A7N8X-VM (nVidia) Asus A7V8X-VM (Via) Gigabyte 7VN400M (Via) MSI-K7M2G-L (nVidia) etc What do you mean with "quality"? 2D output quality? In that case, it's hard to tell, since this depends almost entirely on the output filter on the graphic card (or motherboard for integrated graphics). Most motherboards though seem to have really crappy output filters (with the exception of some intel boards IIRC). But the same is sometimes true for cheap graphic cards unfortunately. If you're talking about 3d performance / 3d quality, the nVidia (nforce2) has a GF4MX integrated. Its performance is about in the middle between a 64bit GF4MX (GF4MX420, often GF4MX440SE) and a 128bit GF4MX (GF4MX440) - this is only true if you use the board in dual-channel ram mode, otherwise the performance will be below a GF4MX420. This is a DX7 class chip (no pixel/vertex shaders, T&L). The Via boards with integrated graphic today use AFAIK all a "Unichrome" graphic core - basically a Savage4 derivative, about as fast as a TNT2. So to beat the integrated Via solutions, a radeon 7000 will do (which, btw, is also available integrated on some boards, with the name radeon igp 340 and similar). To easily beat the nforce2, you'd need a bit more, GF4MX440, GFFX 5200 (but only the 128bit versions will be faster!), Radeon 9200 (not the SE with its 64bit memory interface!). Roland |
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Lem wrote:
Roland Scheidegger wrote: I am not too sure where filters fit into graphics but, essentially, I am thinking of getting answers to questions like this: Would the graphics integrated into on a half-decent modern mobo be as good as my old graphics card ... nVidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400 32MB? BTW is that card the same as what you call "nforce2"? I have a Leadtek Geforce2 GTS about 3yo, and an Asus*A7N8X-VM has better graphics. gtoomey |
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Lem wrote:
Roland Scheidegger wrote: Approximately what would it cost to buy a seperate graphics card offering the same sort of quality as the integrated graphics on a quality motherboard like: Asus A7N8X-VM (nVidia) Asus A7V8X-VM (Via) Gigabyte 7VN400M (Via) MSI-K7M2G-L (nVidia) etc What do you mean with "quality"? 2D output quality? Thanks for posting. I think I didn't make my use of the word "quality" clear. I mean to refer to the integrated graphics on a decent (quality) motherboard as opposed to the integrated graphics on a very cheap budget motherboard. Yes, but do you refer to 2d quality or 3d performance? Those are completely different topics, you can have a card with top-notch 2d quality, but awful 3d performance (for instance, a matrox g200 would fit that category today). If you only use your graphic card for, say, word processing, but use high resolutions (1280x1024 or above) then that can be a problem with integrated graphics (or some graphic cards), the picture will be fuzzy. This is completely independant to how fast the graphic chip is, so for word processing that above mentioned matrox would be great, but for gaming it would be awful. In that case, it's hard to tell, since this depends almost entirely on the output filter on the graphic card (or motherboard for integrated graphics). Most motherboards though seem to have really crappy output filters (with the exception of some intel boards IIRC). But the same is sometimes true for cheap graphic cards unfortunately. I am not too sure where filters fit into graphics but, essentially, I am thinking of getting answers to questions like this: Would the graphics integrated into on a half-decent modern mobo be as good as my old graphics card ... nVidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400 32MB? an integrated nforce2 graphic (such as that in the a7n8x-vm) is faster than your GF2 MX 400 (but the GF2 MX400 would likely be faster than the integrated Via chipsets). I have no idea if the 2d (signal) quality is better or not, GF2 MX cards weren't exactly known for good signal quality, so it might be about the same. BTW is that card the same as what you call "nforce2"? No, nforce2 has an integrated GeForce4 MX - basically same features as a GeForce2 MX, but faster. Roland |
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