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August 15th 03, 01:37 PM
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Helpful purchase advice needed on a PC build project
I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are
encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift. For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of these news groups (and posted a number of questions that you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build the "Dream Machine" and try to get the most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the components and let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to know if you've had problems with any of these components. This will be my home computer that's used for work and play. I use my computer for programming, web application development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P Case: (I built my own case from scratch) Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreaders. Retail HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having a floppy drive :-) SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480 DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620 Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL TIA - Dave Kistner 
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#2
August 15th 03, 04:04 PM
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most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt) the
AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^) Case: (I built my own case from scratch) well thats a new one....PSU is new? NM seen the listing for the PSU....cool Not a fan of gigabyte, but there are far worse boards out there, I take it there was something included with this board that made you go for it. No need for any superman coolers for it , the stock one is more than adequate. Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System, these are great ...if you can still find them, I did find a couple of listings while trying to find the web page for monsoon for someone...it looks like they have dropped the computer line of speakers and gone all automobile. What operating system will you be using? 1 gig of ram will need some registry/tweaking before it will be used properly. Much you will not be able to do without ANY type of floppy, so geezer it up, still need those bad boys...regardless of the age of the tech. ehhhh just my two sense, I normally let the crazy modders answer these posts, just to see what crazy road they will try and take you down. "Davek" wrote in message ... I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift. For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of these news groups (and posted a number of questions that you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build the "Dream Machine" and try to get the most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the components and let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to know if you've had problems with any of these components. This will be my home computer that's used for work and play. I use my computer for programming, web application development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P Case: (I built my own case from scratch) Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreaders. Retail HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having a floppy drive :-) SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480 DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620 Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL TIA - Dave Kistner
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August 15th 03, 08:18 PM
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Sony makes a DVD+/-RW, and a couple other companies are supposed to be on
the verge of releasing there own. I would consider one that will handle both formats. Take a look at the Cyberpower UPS- great unit, excellent customer support. I've been running mine for about 6 months with no problems. Fitz "Davek" wrote in message ... I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift. For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of these news groups (and posted a number of questions that you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build the "Dream Machine" and try to get the most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the components and let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to know if you've had problems with any of these components. This will be my home computer that's used for work and play. I use my computer for programming, web application development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P Case: (I built my own case from scratch) Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreaders. Retail HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having a floppy drive :-) SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480 DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620 Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL TIA - Dave Kistner
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August 15th 03, 08:29 PM
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:18:43 -0800, Fitz pondered exceedingly, then took quill
in hand and carefully composed... | Sony makes a DVD+/-RW, and a couple other companies are supposed to be on | the verge of releasing there own. I would consider one that will handle both | formats. LiteOn has one out now, model LDW-400D. It's about $240 including shipping from Newegg. I haven't seen it yet, but it should be great if it's anything like their CD-RWs. Larc §§§ - Please raise temperature of mail to reply by e-mail - §§§
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#5
August 16th 03, 12:07 AM
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Dave,
0. 8KNXP is reliable, at this point the bios needs fixes, but works well within its limitations: Gigaraid (ITE) raid is slow, Has trouble detecting SATA boot devices. Cant boot off SATA if an IDE disc is in Primary IDE. 1. The pure copper zalman exceeds Intel's weight recommendation and offers only marginally better cooling than the AL-CU hybrid. The AL-CU hybrid is at Intels weight limit (according to the zalman site). Either way both are excellent. 2. Go for a +- DVD burner. 3. Rounded Floppy cable. 4. Backup? On DVD? 5. OS? If you are going to install XP, make sure you put SP 1 in straight away (for USB2 & patches). 6. Memory: PC3200, you will not get any over clocking out of it. 7. 2.4GHz CPU - shop around, the price difference between this and the 2.8 is marginal. 16% performance increase is worth the effort. Considered a dual? They *are* a dream. - Tim "Davek" wrote in message ... I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift. For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of these news groups (and posted a number of questions that you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build the "Dream Machine" and try to get the most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the components and let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to know if you've had problems with any of these components. This will be my home computer that's used for work and play. I use my computer for programming, web application development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P Case: (I built my own case from scratch) Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreaders. Retail HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having a floppy drive :-) SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480 DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620 Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL TIA - Dave Kistner
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August 16th 03, 06:35 AM
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most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt) the
AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^) Simple fact of the matter is, that at this point in time, it's true! ;-)
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August 16th 03, 08:34 AM
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"Sir Pudgie" wrote in message . au... | most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt) the | AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^) | | Simple fact of the matter is, that at this point in time, it's true! ;-) If it is true, I can't see it. Need too much extra cooling etc.
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August 16th 03, 09:00 AM
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| most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt)
the | AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^) | | Simple fact of the matter is, that at this point in time, it's true! ;-) If it is true, I can't see it. Need too much extra cooling etc. Simple math m8, here in Oz, and these prices are boxed CPUs, with *perfectly adequate* stock cooling, taken from a single reputable supplier: Celeron 2.2Ghz AUD$137 AthlonXP 2200+ AUD$143 Now, be objective about this, which of the above do you think would be the better performer? ;-) Then again, if you want the lowest spec'd P4, the 2.4Ghz, you'll have to shell out AUD$331 at the same place. Now, do you honestly think the P4's performance will be more than twice that of the Athlon, or the Celeron for that matter, commensurate with it's price??? :-) Look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Intel processors, or that they don't have the higher-end performance market licked, but it's an undeniable fact that for entry-level, bang-for-buck stuff the ball's still in AMD's court! Do the math! ;-)
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#9
August 16th 03, 06:26 PM
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Simple math m8, here in Oz, and these prices are boxed CPUs, with *perfectly
adequate* stock cooling, taken from a single reputable supplier: Celeron 2.2Ghz AUD$137 AthlonXP 2200+ AUD$143 told ya "Davek" wrote in message ... I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift. For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of these news groups (and posted a number of questions that you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build the "Dream Machine" and try to get the most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the components and let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to know if you've had problems with any of these components. This will be my home computer that's used for work and play. I use my computer for programming, web application development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P Case: (I built my own case from scratch) Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreaders. Retail HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having a floppy drive :-) SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480 DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620 Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL TIA - Dave Kistner
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August 16th 03, 09:38 PM
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"wayne" wrote in message
news:%Md%[email protected] I would up the processor to one that can take advantage of hyperthreading. 2.4 is really the bottom of the line as far as speed goes. The 2.4C that the o/p is talking about *does* have hyperthreading. And considering how easily it overclocks (if the o/p wanted to) it seems to represent really good value. SteveH
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