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8KNXP and Zalman CNPS7000-Cu
I just installed a Zalman CNPS7000-Cu yesterday. The good news is that it
is very quiet and cools well even in silent mode. The bad news is that it did not fit my mobo with DPS2 installed, despite indications from others that it would fit. I'd say it needs to be at least 1/8" smaller in diameter to clear when the DPS2 is installed. No big loss since I'm not overclocking, as I probably am better off without it (less noise from the fan and less heat generated, though probably minimal). It does clear the RAM stick in the first slot of bank 1, but I'm not sure I could remove the stick without first removing or at least moving the Zalman, not that I would likely need to ever remove that stick. This HSF is *heavy* (700g), and it was a surprise when I first picked it up. I can see why they warn not to use it in systems that are moved. A part aluminum unit is available (7000-AlCu) that weighs almost half as much, but doesn't provide the same level of cooling. In silent mode the 92mm fan runs at a slow 1350 rpm, but I bumped mine to 1900 and didn't notice any meaningful noise increase. Temps are running about 3°C cooler than the standard P4 HSF when idling, and more when stressed. I was having some trouble with temps climbing into the mid-60's when running DOS apps (Foxpro or Norton Ghost), but haven't seen anywhere near these temps since the change, no higher than 50°C yet. That is the main reason I bought it, so I guess I would label the effort an overall success. |
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You can always remove the fan from the DPS and run it without it. I think
the airflow from the Zalman should provide enough cooling on the DPS. "Bob Davis" skrev i meddelandet . .. I just installed a Zalman CNPS7000-Cu yesterday. The good news is that it is very quiet and cools well even in silent mode. The bad news is that it did not fit my mobo with DPS2 installed, despite indications from others that it would fit. I'd say it needs to be at least 1/8" smaller in diameter to clear when the DPS2 is installed. No big loss since I'm not overclocking, as I probably am better off without it (less noise from the fan and less heat generated, though probably minimal). It does clear the RAM stick in the first slot of bank 1, but I'm not sure I could remove the stick without first removing or at least moving the Zalman, not that I would likely need to ever remove that stick. This HSF is *heavy* (700g), and it was a surprise when I first picked it up. I can see why they warn not to use it in systems that are moved. A part aluminum unit is available (7000-AlCu) that weighs almost half as much, but doesn't provide the same level of cooling. In silent mode the 92mm fan runs at a slow 1350 rpm, but I bumped mine to 1900 and didn't notice any meaningful noise increase. Temps are running about 3°C cooler than the standard P4 HSF when idling, and more when stressed. I was having some trouble with temps climbing into the mid-60's when running DOS apps (Foxpro or Norton Ghost), but haven't seen anywhere near these temps since the change, no higher than 50°C yet. That is the main reason I bought it, so I guess I would label the effort an overall success. |
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That's an excellent point that I had not considered. But I wonder if I
really need the DPS2, as it seems just as stable now as before. I am not overclocking, so what's your opinion? I've heard DPS2 is of dubious value anyway, and has some negative side effects, like generating more heat and noise. "Axl" wrote in message ... You can always remove the fan from the DPS and run it without it. I think the airflow from the Zalman should provide enough cooling on the DPS. "Bob Davis" skrev i meddelandet . .. I just installed a Zalman CNPS7000-Cu yesterday. The good news is that it is very quiet and cools well even in silent mode. The bad news is that it did not fit my mobo with DPS2 installed, despite indications from others that it would fit. I'd say it needs to be at least 1/8" smaller in diameter to clear when the DPS2 is installed. No big loss since I'm not overclocking, as I probably am better off without it (less noise from the fan and less heat generated, though probably minimal). It does clear the RAM stick in the first slot of bank 1, but I'm not sure I could remove the stick without first removing or at least moving the Zalman, not that I would likely need to ever remove that stick. This HSF is *heavy* (700g), and it was a surprise when I first picked it up. I can see why they warn not to use it in systems that are moved. A part aluminum unit is available (7000-AlCu) that weighs almost half as much, but doesn't provide the same level of cooling. In silent mode the 92mm fan runs at a slow 1350 rpm, but I bumped mine to 1900 and didn't notice any meaningful noise increase. Temps are running about 3°C cooler than the standard P4 HSF when idling, and more when stressed. I was having some trouble with temps climbing into the mid-60's when running DOS apps (Foxpro or Norton Ghost), but haven't seen anywhere near these temps since the change, no higher than 50°C yet. That is the main reason I bought it, so I guess I would label the effort an overall success. |
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Hello,
You do not really need the DPS2, but if you want to use it, you can indeed install it with the fan removed (otherwise it won't fit with the Zalman). The DPS really doesn't need a separate fan. I've never noticed any difference with or without the DPS. In my view, it's more a marketing thing from Gigabyte. And since you want to have a quiet pc anyway, one more tip. Remove the metal (gigabyte - advertising) piece from the fan of the northbridge. It makes the fan a bit more quiet, as it resonates less. Good luck. Boudewijn "Bob Davis" wrote in message . .. That's an excellent point that I had not considered. But I wonder if I really need the DPS2, as it seems just as stable now as before. I am not overclocking, so what's your opinion? I've heard DPS2 is of dubious value anyway, and has some negative side effects, like generating more heat and noise. "Axl" wrote in message ... You can always remove the fan from the DPS and run it without it. I think the airflow from the Zalman should provide enough cooling on the DPS. "Bob Davis" skrev i meddelandet . .. I just installed a Zalman CNPS7000-Cu yesterday. The good news is that it is very quiet and cools well even in silent mode. The bad news is that it did not fit my mobo with DPS2 installed, despite indications from others that it would fit. I'd say it needs to be at least 1/8" smaller in diameter to clear when the DPS2 is installed. No big loss since I'm not overclocking, as I probably am better off without it (less noise from the fan and less heat generated, though probably minimal). It does clear the RAM stick in the first slot of bank 1, but I'm not sure I could remove the stick without first removing or at least moving the Zalman, not that I would likely need to ever remove that stick. This HSF is *heavy* (700g), and it was a surprise when I first picked it up. I can see why they warn not to use it in systems that are moved. A part aluminum unit is available (7000-AlCu) that weighs almost half as much, but doesn't provide the same level of cooling. In silent mode the 92mm fan runs at a slow 1350 rpm, but I bumped mine to 1900 and didn't notice any meaningful noise increase. Temps are running about 3°C cooler than the standard P4 HSF when idling, and more when stressed. I was having some trouble with temps climbing into the mid-60's when running DOS apps (Foxpro or Norton Ghost), but haven't seen anywhere near these temps since the change, no higher than 50°C yet. That is the main reason I bought it, so I guess I would label the effort an overall success. |
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"Boudewijn" wrote in message
... You do not really need the DPS2, but if you want to use it, you can indeed install it with the fan removed (otherwise it won't fit with the Zalman). Someone else suggested this, but I don't plan on returning the DPS2 to service unless someone convinces me it will do something constructive, which to date no one has. The DPS really doesn't need a separate fan. I've never noticed any difference with or without the DPS. In my view, it's more a marketing thing from Gigabyte. And since you want to have a quiet pc anyway, one more tip. Remove the metal (gigabyte - advertising) piece from the fan of the northbridge. It makes the fan a bit more quiet, as it resonates less. I'll try that. In a very scientific decibel test (12" cutting of a garden hose placed to my ear), the huge Zalman running at 1900 rpm (about half-way between lowest and highest speed) was considerably quieter than the tiny Northbridge fan. A friend mentioned the availability of sound-deadening material that can be placed inside the case. I will look into this also, though this case is not especially noisy by my standards, even with nine fans running (3 case, 2 PSU, 1 NB, 1 CPU, 1 CD-RW, 1 mobil rack). |
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I'm not using the DPS right now and the system works as good as without.
Gigabyte claims that it makes the components last longer. I don't know about this since the DPS is a recent invention and it hasn't been in test for a longer period. You can always keep your DPS unplugged and plug it in if the on-board power supply is failing. "Bob Davis" skrev i meddelandet . .. "Boudewijn" wrote in message ... You do not really need the DPS2, but if you want to use it, you can indeed install it with the fan removed (otherwise it won't fit with the Zalman). Someone else suggested this, but I don't plan on returning the DPS2 to service unless someone convinces me it will do something constructive, which to date no one has. The DPS really doesn't need a separate fan. I've never noticed any difference with or without the DPS. In my view, it's more a marketing thing from Gigabyte. And since you want to have a quiet pc anyway, one more tip. Remove the metal (gigabyte - advertising) piece from the fan of the northbridge. It makes the fan a bit more quiet, as it resonates less. I'll try that. In a very scientific decibel test (12" cutting of a garden hose placed to my ear), the huge Zalman running at 1900 rpm (about half-way between lowest and highest speed) was considerably quieter than the tiny Northbridge fan. A friend mentioned the availability of sound-deadening material that can be placed inside the case. I will look into this also, though this case is not especially noisy by my standards, even with nine fans running (3 case, 2 PSU, 1 NB, 1 CPU, 1 CD-RW, 1 mobil rack). |
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