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A7N8X-E Deluxe - Where to get PC3200 RAM on ASUS tested list
I'm building a new PC with an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe and an Athlon XP
2800+ (Barton). I want to install two 512MB PC3200 modules to run in dual channel mode at 200MHz. (or maybe 166 MHz. to match the bus frequency - I think I've read that with the Atholn XP, synchronous at the lower speed is actually faster). The problem is that I just can't find memory with the exact same part number as listed on the ASUS web site as having been tested. (I can't find a list for the -E Deluxe but there is one for the A7N8X Deluxe and I assume they are the same memory-wise). www.newegg.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of TWINMOS for $140 and TWINMOS is on the list, but with no specific part number. www.ms4me.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of Samsung memory for about $150 and htey have a 100% positive feedback rating on PriceWatch but they don't show the manufacturers full part number either. Has anybody here used either of these memories on an A7N8X / A7N8X-E Deluxe or have anyother advice for me. I appreciate it. Louis |
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"Lou" schreef in bericht ... I'm building a new PC with an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe and an Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton). I want to install two 512MB PC3200 modules to run in dual channel mode at 200MHz. (or maybe 166 MHz. to match the bus frequency - I think I've read that with the Atholn XP, synchronous at the lower speed is actually faster). The problem is that I just can't find memory with the exact same part number as listed on the ASUS web site as having been tested. (I can't find a list for the -E Deluxe but there is one for the A7N8X Deluxe and I assume they are the same memory-wise). www.newegg.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of TWINMOS for $140 and TWINMOS is on the list, but with no specific part number. www.ms4me.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of Samsung memory for about $150 and htey have a 100% positive feedback rating on PriceWatch but they don't show the manufacturers full part number either. Has anybody here used either of these memories on an A7N8X / A7N8X-E Deluxe or have anyother advice for me. I appreciate it. Louis Hi Í run a A7n8x-e MoBo (+ cpu: Amd 3000+) with a twin-couple of memory of corsair typeTWINX512-3200LLPT. (partnr. 0304045) And it runs very well with it, stable and fast. gr fr |
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In article , Lou
wrote: I'm building a new PC with an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe and an Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton). I want to install two 512MB PC3200 modules to run in dual channel mode at 200MHz. (or maybe 166 MHz. to match the bus frequency - I think I've read that with the Atholn XP, synchronous at the lower speed is actually faster). The problem is that I just can't find memory with the exact same part number as listed on the ASUS web site as having been tested. (I can't find a list for the -E Deluxe but there is one for the A7N8X Deluxe and I assume they are the same memory-wise). www.newegg.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of TWINMOS for $140 and TWINMOS is on the list, but with no specific part number. www.ms4me.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of Samsung memory for about $150 and htey have a 100% positive feedback rating on PriceWatch but they don't show the manufacturers full part number either. Has anybody here used either of these memories on an A7N8X / A7N8X-E Deluxe or have anyother advice for me. I appreciate it. Louis There is a thread here on TwinMOS: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49071 There are also plenty of other threads on nforcershq about memory: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51516 My suspicion, is that you'll find few problems running a couple of generic CAS3 sticks at 166MHz (DDR333). But, if you want to run at DDR400 (say when you are overclocking the FSB of your new processor, and running FSB and memory in sync), then expect trouble. If you want to play at DDR400, pick up some CAS2 (low latency) PC3200 memory. That seems to work better than buying CAS3 PC4000 type memory. Looking in the Newegg memory lists, this is the cheapest CAS2 product I can find. Mushkin PC3200 2x512 Blue Dual pack 2-3-3 memory for $182. On one of the threads on nforcershq.com, about memory, one user reported brands that worked and didn't work. It will take you a while to sift through all the threads, but that is the only way to find memory that actually works. When judging the threads, the users reporting their results should have used memtest86/prime95 to test the memory, and list the memory settings used. They should have used enough Vdimm to get the memory to work well (like 2.6 to 2.8V). You'll find many reports from people who are not using taxing configurations for their hardware (like only 166MHz), or from people who are unaware of the need to test the memory, and their experiences are best ignored. Start here, and click "search for all terms" to get logical AND in your searches: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/search.php I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. I took a look at the Newegg customer reviews for some of their cheapest memories, and unfortunately there are very few reports from people who test their memories properly. Since the cheapest memories involve a mixture of stick designs (can change from lot to lot), there is really no way of knowing what you'll get. If you want to play "bargain memory" games, it is best to do that with a vendor having a generous return policy, or use a local vendor who will accept returns or allow upgrading. Make sure the memory has a warranty of longer than one year, as I've been burnt twice by memory failures (on cheap generic "sale" memory) just after the one year warranty expired. Dammit, I want to own my memory, not rent it :-) HTH, Paul |
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I use two 512 Kingston 3200 Cas 2.5 (not twins, but it does not make any difference). They are on Asus compatibility list for that motherboard. "Paul" a écrit dans le message de news: ... In article , Lou wrote: I'm building a new PC with an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe and an Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton). I want to install two 512MB PC3200 modules to run in dual channel mode at 200MHz. (or maybe 166 MHz. to match the bus frequency - I think I've read that with the Atholn XP, synchronous at the lower speed is actually faster). The problem is that I just can't find memory with the exact same part number as listed on the ASUS web site as having been tested. (I can't find a list for the -E Deluxe but there is one for the A7N8X Deluxe and I assume they are the same memory-wise). www.newegg.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of TWINMOS for $140 and TWINMOS is on the list, but with no specific part number. www.ms4me.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of Samsung memory for about $150 and htey have a 100% positive feedback rating on PriceWatch but they don't show the manufacturers full part number either. Has anybody here used either of these memories on an A7N8X / A7N8X-E Deluxe or have anyother advice for me. I appreciate it. Louis There is a thread here on TwinMOS: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49071 There are also plenty of other threads on nforcershq about memory: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51516 My suspicion, is that you'll find few problems running a couple of generic CAS3 sticks at 166MHz (DDR333). But, if you want to run at DDR400 (say when you are overclocking the FSB of your new processor, and running FSB and memory in sync), then expect trouble. If you want to play at DDR400, pick up some CAS2 (low latency) PC3200 memory. That seems to work better than buying CAS3 PC4000 type memory. Looking in the Newegg memory lists, this is the cheapest CAS2 product I can find. Mushkin PC3200 2x512 Blue Dual pack 2-3-3 memory for $182. On one of the threads on nforcershq.com, about memory, one user reported brands that worked and didn't work. It will take you a while to sift through all the threads, but that is the only way to find memory that actually works. When judging the threads, the users reporting their results should have used memtest86/prime95 to test the memory, and list the memory settings used. They should have used enough Vdimm to get the memory to work well (like 2.6 to 2.8V). You'll find many reports from people who are not using taxing configurations for their hardware (like only 166MHz), or from people who are unaware of the need to test the memory, and their experiences are best ignored. Start here, and click "search for all terms" to get logical AND in your searches: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/search.php I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. I took a look at the Newegg customer reviews for some of their cheapest memories, and unfortunately there are very few reports from people who test their memories properly. Since the cheapest memories involve a mixture of stick designs (can change from lot to lot), there is really no way of knowing what you'll get. If you want to play "bargain memory" games, it is best to do that with a vendor having a generous return policy, or use a local vendor who will accept returns or allow upgrading. Make sure the memory has a warranty of longer than one year, as I've been burnt twice by memory failures (on cheap generic "sale" memory) just after the one year warranty expired. Dammit, I want to own my memory, not rent it :-) HTH, Paul |
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Thus spake Paul:
I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. Just what I wanted to know Paul, so thanks for that. I'm toying with the idea of replacing my XP1800+ with an XP2400 m & 2x512 PC3200 to replace my Crucial 2x256 sticks. My concern was that the Crucial RAM isn't recommended by Asus but do they update these recommendations - probably not for an "old" m/b such as this one. |
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In article , "Paul Busby"
wrote: Thus spake Paul: I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. Just what I wanted to know Paul, so thanks for that. I'm toying with the idea of replacing my XP1800+ with an XP2400 m & 2x512 PC3200 to replace my Crucial 2x256 sticks. My concern was that the Crucial RAM isn't recommended by Asus but do they update these recommendations - probably not for an "old" m/b such as this one. My purchase was just like everyone else - "pays your money, takes your chances". I mean, when the QVL still has Winbond based DIMMs listed (Winbond going out of production more than a year ago), what good is such a QVL ? Asus just doesn't seem to be that interested in maintaining their QVLs. http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?langs=09&m=A7N8X (see bottom of page) I didn't know whether this RAM would work or not, and it was either pick the Ballistix (with the latest Micron chip rev on it) or pick one of the other six suppliers selling CAS2 Samsung TCCD ram (like Corsair 3200XL). I selected the Ballistix partially based on being able to easily move it between my A7N8X-E and P4C800-E. So far, no problems on either board, running at stock PC3200 speeds, 2-2-2-6, dual channel. My purchase was the process of elimination. Reports of certain CAS3 sticks not working, some cheap CAS3 I already had that wouldn't work without errors, reading reports of PC4000 memory not fixing the problem on the A7N8X etc - that left CAS2 as the only other alternative. So I got lucky... Not all chipsets are this bad, but it would seem that there are still designs out there (including some of the Athlon64 processors) that aren't really that happy at DDR400. It is a lot like "high tech roulette" :-) Paul |
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"Paul Busby" wrote in message ... Thus spake Paul: I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. Just what I wanted to know Paul, so thanks for that. I'm toying with the idea of replacing my XP1800+ with an XP2400 m & 2x512 PC3200 to replace my Crucial 2x256 sticks. My concern was that the Crucial RAM isn't recommended by Asus but do they update these recommendations - probably not for an "old" m/b such as this one. Crucial test and guarantee there own RAMS on each motherboard, so if you went through their RAM selector and selected the correct RAM for your motherboard and it did not work then you would be able to get it replaced. Matt |
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I can't find a compatibility list for the A7N8X-E Deluxe on the ASUS
site so I''m going by the list for the A7N8X Deluxe. Can you give me the URL? Thanks, Louis On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:50:43 -0500, "FG" wrote: I use two 512 Kingston 3200 Cas 2.5 (not twins, but it does not make any difference). They are on Asus compatibility list for that motherboard. "Paul" a écrit dans le message de news: ... In article , Lou wrote: I'm building a new PC with an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe and an Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton). I want to install two 512MB PC3200 modules to run in dual channel mode at 200MHz. (or maybe 166 MHz. to match the bus frequency - I think I've read that with the Atholn XP, synchronous at the lower speed is actually faster). The problem is that I just can't find memory with the exact same part number as listed on the ASUS web site as having been tested. (I can't find a list for the -E Deluxe but there is one for the A7N8X Deluxe and I assume they are the same memory-wise). www.newegg.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of TWINMOS for $140 and TWINMOS is on the list, but with no specific part number. www.ms4me.com has a two module kit (2 X 512) of Samsung memory for about $150 and htey have a 100% positive feedback rating on PriceWatch but they don't show the manufacturers full part number either. Has anybody here used either of these memories on an A7N8X / A7N8X-E Deluxe or have anyother advice for me. I appreciate it. Louis There is a thread here on TwinMOS: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49071 There are also plenty of other threads on nforcershq about memory: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51516 My suspicion, is that you'll find few problems running a couple of generic CAS3 sticks at 166MHz (DDR333). But, if you want to run at DDR400 (say when you are overclocking the FSB of your new processor, and running FSB and memory in sync), then expect trouble. If you want to play at DDR400, pick up some CAS2 (low latency) PC3200 memory. That seems to work better than buying CAS3 PC4000 type memory. Looking in the Newegg memory lists, this is the cheapest CAS2 product I can find. Mushkin PC3200 2x512 Blue Dual pack 2-3-3 memory for $182. On one of the threads on nforcershq.com, about memory, one user reported brands that worked and didn't work. It will take you a while to sift through all the threads, but that is the only way to find memory that actually works. When judging the threads, the users reporting their results should have used memtest86/prime95 to test the memory, and list the memory settings used. They should have used enough Vdimm to get the memory to work well (like 2.6 to 2.8V). You'll find many reports from people who are not using taxing configurations for their hardware (like only 166MHz), or from people who are unaware of the need to test the memory, and their experiences are best ignored. Start here, and click "search for all terms" to get logical AND in your searches: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/search.php I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. I took a look at the Newegg customer reviews for some of their cheapest memories, and unfortunately there are very few reports from people who test their memories properly. Since the cheapest memories involve a mixture of stick designs (can change from lot to lot), there is really no way of knowing what you'll get. If you want to play "bargain memory" games, it is best to do that with a vendor having a generous return policy, or use a local vendor who will accept returns or allow upgrading. Make sure the memory has a warranty of longer than one year, as I've been burnt twice by memory failures (on cheap generic "sale" memory) just after the one year warranty expired. Dammit, I want to own my memory, not rent it :-) HTH, Paul |
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Sure enough - and it's only $79.99 with free shipping straight from
their web site! I notice that it is only CAS-3; I'd be more comfortable with 2 or 2.5. Even though I have a 166MHz. FSB CPU (Athlon 2600+ Barton) I can run the memory at 200 MHz. async. for testing with memtest86 during the return period. Thanks, Louis On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:32:08 -0000, "Matt" wrote: "Paul Busby" wrote in message ... Thus spake Paul: I use Ballistix PC3200 at DDR400 2-2-2-6 and find it is error free in dual channel mode. But it is a little more expensive than the Mushkin. If you only plan to ever run the memory at DDR333 (166MHz), you may not need to bother with the more expensive memories. Just what I wanted to know Paul, so thanks for that. I'm toying with the idea of replacing my XP1800+ with an XP2400 m & 2x512 PC3200 to replace my Crucial 2x256 sticks. My concern was that the Crucial RAM isn't recommended by Asus but do they update these recommendations - probably not for an "old" m/b such as this one. Crucial test and guarantee there own RAMS on each motherboard, so if you went through their RAM selector and selected the correct RAM for your motherboard and it did not work then you would be able to get it replaced. Matt |
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