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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
I discovered an horrible thing today.
I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
In article , Mike De Petris wrote:
I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
On Apr 20, 5:39*pm, (GMAN) wrote:
In article , Mike De Petris wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx Thank you very much, now I know what brand to buy for my new system. |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
On Apr 20, 5:53*pm, Mike De Petris wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:39*pm, (GMAN) wrote: In article , Mike De Petris wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx Thank you very much, now I know what brand to buy for my new system. in fact I was also considering a different OS for next system, does the same applies to MacOsX ? |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
Mike De Petris wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:53 pm, Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 20, 5:39 pm, (GMAN) wrote: In article , Mike De Petris wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx Thank you very much, now I know what brand to buy for my new system. in fact I was also considering a different OS for next system, does the same applies to MacOsX ? .... clearly you have no idea what you want. |
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On 21 Apr, 00:19, deimos deimos@localhost wrote:
Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 20, 5:53 pm, Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 20, 5:39 pm, (GMAN) wrote: In article , Mike De Petris wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx Thank you very much, now I know what brand to buy for my new system. in fact I was also considering a different OS for next system, does the same applies to MacOsX ? ... clearly you have no idea what you want. what I want is to be able to: - use email/newsgroups - web surfing - play tv/video in a window while sending video fullscreen on a secondary monitor - move files - use Visual Studio 2008 so I have a perfect idea, and I know all can be done on different OSes, using virtualization, my idea at the moment is that MacOs X is the best solution even if the most expensive, that's why I would like to discuss pro and con's with you |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT), Mike De Petris
wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. Be cautious about so-called Tech Support now days. These people are generally Help Desk specialists (aka talking-heads) not real technicians. They tend to give canned answers which MAY be inaccurate. Note the qualification is "on TV." The feature is likely still available for conventional monitors using DVI connection. -- ======== Tecknomage ======== Computer Systems Specialist IT Technician San Diego, CA |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
On Apr 21, 1:42*pm, Tecknomage wrote:
Be cautious about so-called Tech Support now days. *These people are generally Help Desk specialists (aka talking-heads) not real technicians. *They tend to give canned answers which MAY be inaccurate. Note the qualification is "on TV." *The feature is likely still available for conventional monitors using DVI connection. oh no, I am sorry but unfortunately it's all true and stated on both Nvidia and Microsoft official sites, they made an agreement to remove the feature from all cards since 80xx and totally in Vista, a quick search of "nvidia fullscreen mirror" will show you. Answer is to move to ATI where it is called "theatre mode", very sad. |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
"Mike De Petris" wrote in message ...
On Apr 21, 1:42 pm, Tecknomage wrote: Be cautious about so-called Tech Support now days. These people are generally Help Desk specialists (aka talking-heads) not real technicians. They tend to give canned answers which MAY be inaccurate. Note the qualification is "on TV." The feature is likely still available for conventional monitors using DVI connection. oh no, I am sorry but unfortunately it's all true and stated on both Nvidia and Microsoft official sites, they made an agreement to remove the feature from all cards since 80xx and totally in Vista, a quick search of "nvidia fullscreen mirror" will show you. Answer is to move to ATI where it is called "theatre mode", very sad. *** From Nvidia's knowledge base: "Full Screen Video Mirroring is available for Geforce 7 series GPUs and older series when using the NVIDIA Forceware display drivers 174.xx and below under Microsoft's Windows XP operating system. Full Screen Video Mirroring is not supported for any NVIDIA based GPU under Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system. Future Release 177 drivers and above will no longer provide support for Full Screen Video Mirroring for Geforce 7 GPUs and older GPUs. Full Screen Video Mirroring will be directly accessably through certain applications which will require this option." FYI, video drivers are not the only thing taking a DRM hit from Microsoft.. You should read the VERSION.TXT files for C-Media's audio controllers. Digital output is intentionally disabled in most cases. |
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Nvidia fullscreen mirroring intentionally removed
In article , Mike De Petris wrote:
On 21 Apr, 00:19, deimos deimos@localhost wrote: Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 20, 5:53 pm, Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 20, 5:39 pm, (GMAN) wrote: In article , Mike De Petris wrote: I discovered an horrible thing today. I use a lot this feature of my old FX5900 card, but now that I want to upgrade my system I read I can't go for an Nvidia gpu again, as the feature has been removed for an unknown reason: (from a 2007 forum post) Nvidia support answered to me this: Understand from your email that you are using a GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card and now with the new NVIDIA Control panel, you are unable to achieve fullscreen overlay on TV. With Geforce 8 Series graphics GPU's, the Full Screen Video Mirror function in the NVIDIA Control Panel is not available. This control is intentionally disabled because Full Screen Video Mirror is not supported on GeForce 8 series GPUs. However, this function may be added with the future driver updates. It was forced upon them by Microsoft and their rules reagarding their DRM system they built into windows. AMD/ATI chose not to cave to Microsoft but Nvidia did. Microsoft's Certified Output Protection Protocol (COPP) http://www.howtofixcomputers. com/forums/nvidia-videocards/nvidia-blames-ms-not-having-fullscreen-video-mirr oring-video-out-142422.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...66(VS.85).aspx Thank you very much, now I know what brand to buy for my new system. in fact I was also considering a different OS for next system, does the same applies to MacOsX ? ... clearly you have no idea what you want. what I want is to be able to: - use email/newsgroups - web surfing - play tv/video in a window while sending video fullscreen on a secondary monitor - move files - use Visual Studio 2008 so I have a perfect idea, and I know all can be done on different OSes, using virtualization, my idea at the moment is that MacOs X is the best solution even if the most expensive, that's why I would like to discuss pro and con's with you I own an Nvidia 8800GTS on my older machine but run a pair of ATI 3870 OC cards in my main Quad Corse system. It does full screen overlay just fine via the S-video and HDMI outputs on the card. But my damn 8800GTS on my old Dual Core system cannot due to this bull****. |
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