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Old February 26th 08, 06:50 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed may
make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth constrained.

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Old February 26th 08, 08:45 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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First of One wrote:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed may
make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth constrained.



'It comes with 12-layer PCB at 4.376"(H) by 10.5"(L)'

What a beast of a breadboard that is.
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Old February 26th 08, 11:59 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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I certainly hope it has fast RAM. Otherwise, nVidia seems to have lengthened
the board just to accommodate the extra SLI connector. :-)

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First of One wrote:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed
may make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth
constrained.



'It comes with 12-layer PCB at 4.376"(H) by 10.5"(L)'

What a beast of a breadboard that is.



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Old February 26th 08, 02:10 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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First of One wrote:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html


There goes your USD400.

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Old February 26th 08, 04:20 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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"First of One" wrote in message
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed
may make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth
constrained.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Interesting. I must say I'm a little disappointed in the "next-gen" naming
convention of this line of cards. An 8800GTX isn't just two 7800GT's
sandwiched together. And a 7800GTX isn't two 6800GT's combined. Don't know
what the 9800GTX will sell at, but if you already own an OC 8800GT or GTS, I
can't see an incentive to go out and replace it when you can stick another
8800 card in for SLI perfromance very likely close to equal to the 9800GTX.
You can, of course, SLI two 9800GTX's but not too many will need it.


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Old February 26th 08, 05:17 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Augustus wrote:
"First of One" wrote in message
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed
may make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth
constrained.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Interesting. I must say I'm a little disappointed in the "next-gen" naming
convention of this line of cards. An 8800GTX isn't just two 7800GT's
sandwiched together. And a 7800GTX isn't two 6800GT's combined. Don't know
what the 9800GTX will sell at, but if you already own an OC 8800GT or GTS, I
can't see an incentive to go out and replace it when you can stick another
8800 card in for SLI perfromance very likely close to equal to the 9800GTX.
You can, of course, SLI two 9800GTX's but not too many will need it.



The 9800's will produce meaningful gains only in DX10 games at high
resolutions, since all DX9 titles are well handled by the 8800GTX.

The word on the street is nearly 30% gain in those areas where
performance is most necessary, but any gains in resolutions below
1600x1200 are superfluous as 60+FPS sustained with maximum filtering is
accomplished already.

30% sounds like a significant number, until you realize that 30% of
20FPS is only 26FPS, and 26FPS is unplayable (for shooters).
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Old February 27th 08, 04:10 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia
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Default 9800GTX - Mem Clocks

http://en.expreview.com/2008/02/23/m...ls-on-9800gtx/

512MB 0.8ns DDR3 at 1100 MHz (compare to 972 MHz on the 8800GTS).

1100 x 2 x 256 /8 = 70.40 GB/sec

The 9800GTX may turn out slower than the 8800GTX at high-res + AA. Reminds
me of the Ferrari F50...

When is the "real" next-gen card coming again?

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"First of One" wrote in message
...
I certainly hope it has fast RAM. Otherwise, nVidia seems to have
lengthened the board just to accommodate the extra SLI connector. :-)

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Mr.E Solved!" wrote in message
. ..
First of One wrote:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_...iled/5599.html

It will be interesting to see how much faster it is against the current
8800GTS 512MB. Both apparently use the G92 with 128SPs, with the 9800GTX
clocked at 673 MHz versus the 8800GTS' 650 MHz. Of course, memory speed
may make all the difference, as the design is memory bandwidth
constrained.



'It comes with 12-layer PCB at 4.376"(H) by 10.5"(L)'

What a beast of a breadboard that is.



 




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