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AGP card advice please
I have a AGP setup but the current card a GeForce 6600GT (have been very happy with it), but it's struggling to run new games at a decent frame rate at 1280 x 1024, the native setting of my monitor. Will be upgrading the full pc in a years time, and this one will being going in to my daughters room. So looking at one last upgrade for my current AGP PC; PM800- M2 Mother Board P4 3ghz 1gb RAM 800gb hard disk space If I bought the Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP), would my current CPU get bottlenecked? would it be able to handle newer games, ie oblivion call of duty 2 etc? does anyone have a similar system or comments that would help? Thanks John |
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John,
Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP) I'm running the same card and love it. I do highly recommend that you have at least a 500 watt power supply. Gainward's minimum is 400 w., but you need more for other items (RAM/HD's/CDRW/DVD/etc.) I bought a PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 Express/SLi. Being an SLi capable P/S, I'm ready for later when I finally get such a MoBo & video card. My system specs; Abit IC7-G Corsair 1GB Kit DDR550 XMS4400 Memory w/Black Heat Spreaders Pentium® 4 CPU Northwood 2.4GHz (OC'd to 2.8 so far), 800MHz FSB, Socket 478 Zalman 7000B-Cu LED cpu cooler (2)IBM Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 80GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer,[in RAID0 array] Maxtor 200GB-HDD Maxtor 160GB-HDD Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI(AGP) 2 case fans [1 in p/s, plus 1-cpu, 1-gpu,] 5 total fans. PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 Express/SLi - power supply 19" ProView LCD monitor WinXP Pro w/SP2 Sony DVD-CDRW drive double-layer Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Video Editor(external audio/video) LogiTech 5.1 X530 surround sound system LogiTech MX-700 cordless USB mouse APC Back-UPS XS-1500 -- Jim Using - Virtual Access(OLR), ZASS 6.5, & WinXP Pro w/SP2 http://www.virtual-access.org |
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"John Lord" wrote in message
... So looking at one last upgrade for my current AGP PC; PM800- M2 Mother Board P4 3ghz 1gb RAM 800gb hard disk space If I bought the Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP), would my current CPU get bottlenecked? would it be able to handle newer games, ie oblivion call of duty 2 etc? does anyone have a similar system or comments that would help? Newer games like Oblivion and CoD2 are almost always video-card-limited once you crank up the visual options. The 7800GS+ can handle Oblivion at the "very high" setting with HDR, under most circumstances. Don't worry too much about power supply requirements. The 7800GS+ has a 7900 core and draw about half as much power as competing ATi cards. A 400 W power supply should be sufficient. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." |
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It would not. :-) You need something in the 400W range (or more if you can
afford it), and stick with good brands like Enermax, Antec, Seasonic or PC Power & Cooling ($$). -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "BuddyWh" root@localhost. wrote in message ... Uh-oh.... right now I'm running a 2.8 Northwood and my 6600GT on a 240W supply. I wonder if it would hold 7800GS?? |
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"John Lord" wrote in message ...
I have a AGP setup but the current card a GeForce 6600GT (have been very happy with it), but it's struggling to run new games at a decent frame rate at 1280 x 1024, the native setting of my monitor. Will be upgrading the full pc in a years time, and this one will being going in to my daughters room. So looking at one last upgrade for my current AGP PC; PM800- M2 Mother Board P4 3ghz 1gb RAM 800gb hard disk space If I bought the Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GS+ SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP), would my current CPU get bottlenecked? would it be able to handle newer games, ie oblivion call of duty 2 etc? does anyone have a similar system or comments that would help? According to Nvidia a 3GHz P4 is the cutoff point for a 7800GS+ to avoid severe bottlenecking. But if you can overclock it a bit to 3.2 or 3.4GHz, all the better. As for Oblivion, nothing runs it completely smoothly with all eyecandy at max. Not even the highest-end PCI-E cards. But for all other games you'll be thrilled with the GS+. E.g. in HL2 on a 3.6GHz P4 I can play HL2 at 1280x1024 @ 85.5FPS (all options set to max), or 1600x1200 @ 84FPS (no AA -- isn't needed with the higher resolution on a CRT). Compared to my last video card (a 9700 Pro) HL2 benched ~45FPS. |
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Thanks guy, looks of useful help. Also done a bit of research and will
order it tomorrow. EDM, sounds a good idea just to give the new card some breathing space. I've overclocked my 6600 for a while but never my CPU, it's now out of warranty so will start reading and learning about how to do it, any good sites you can recommend that will help me? Thanks John "First of One" wrote in message ... It would not. :-) You need something in the 400W range (or more if you can afford it), and stick with good brands like Enermax, Antec, Seasonic or PC Power & Cooling ($$). -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "BuddyWh" root@localhost. wrote in message ... Uh-oh.... right now I'm running a 2.8 Northwood and my 6600GT on a 240W supply. I wonder if it would hold 7800GS?? |
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'erm looks like my mb isn't great for overclocking, and thanks, sounds
tempting but this is my last upgrade for my current agp setup till I upgrade to a new system next year (still saving!), so will see what the new card runs like on my current system. thanks for the advice all John "John Lord" wrote in message ... Thanks guy, looks of useful help. Also done a bit of research and will order it tomorrow. EDM, sounds a good idea just to give the new card some breathing space. I've overclocked my 6600 for a while but never my CPU, it's now out of warranty so will start reading and learning about how to do it, any good sites you can recommend that will help me? Thanks John "First of One" wrote in message ... It would not. :-) You need something in the 400W range (or more if you can afford it), and stick with good brands like Enermax, Antec, Seasonic or PC Power & Cooling ($$). -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "BuddyWh" root@localhost. wrote in message ... Uh-oh.... right now I'm running a 2.8 Northwood and my 6600GT on a 240W supply. I wonder if it would hold 7800GS?? |
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'John' wrote, in part:
| I've overclocked my 6600 for a while but never my CPU, it's now out of | warranty so will start reading and learning about how to do it, any good | sites you can recommend that will help me? _____ The newsgroup: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking . Phil Weldon "John Lord" wrote in message ... | Thanks guy, looks of useful help. Also done a bit of research and will | order it tomorrow. | | EDM, sounds a good idea just to give the new card some breathing space. | I've overclocked my 6600 for a while but never my CPU, it's now out of | warranty so will start reading and learning about how to do it, any good | sites you can recommend that will help me? | | Thanks | | John | | "First of One" wrote in message | ... | It would not. :-) You need something in the 400W range (or more if you can | afford it), and stick with good brands like Enermax, Antec, Seasonic or PC | Power & Cooling ($$). | | -- | "War is the continuation of politics by other means. | It can therefore be said that politics is war without | bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." | | "BuddyWh" root@localhost. wrote in message | ... | Uh-oh.... right now I'm running a 2.8 Northwood and my 6600GT on a | 240W supply. I wonder if it would hold 7800GS?? | | | | |
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EDM wrote:
"John Lord" wrote in message ... I have a AGP setup but the current card a GeForce 6600GT (have been very happy with it), but it's struggling to run new games at a decent frame rate at 1280 x 1024, the native setting of my monitor. Will be upgrading the full pc in a years time, and this one will being going in to my daughters room. snip I came in late on this one but I would have to say that you should seriously consider saving your money by not buying an AGP card, PCI Express is coming and it sounds like Oblivion is the kind of game that will force a change to the new standard. Also consider that bigger & wider LCD displays are getting cheaper daily, so any money spent on AGP hardware might buy hardware that has a short lifetime... |
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Intel owners have a harder time upgrading because PCIe is tied-in with the
new LGA775 CPU socket and DDR2 RAM. Socket 478 motherboards with PCIe are quite rare. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "Jim" wrote in message ... I came in late on this one but I would have to say that you should seriously consider saving your money by not buying an AGP card, PCI Express is coming and it sounds like Oblivion is the kind of game that will force a change to the new standard. Also consider that bigger & wider LCD displays are getting cheaper daily, so any money spent on AGP hardware might buy hardware that has a short lifetime... |
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