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AMD Boxed CPU Thermal Paste
Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on
their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Chas. |
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"Ed" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, "* * Chas" wrote: Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Chas. Not sure but fwiw I have a newcastle 3200+ and replaced the pad with Artic Silver 3 and also tried the Artic Cremque?(spelling?) stuff, end result... no difference at all in temps, the stock AMD64 pads work great IMO. Ed Did you give them their 200 hours breakin? -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org Fight Spam: http://bluesecurity.com |
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AMD Boxed CPU Thermal Paste
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:21:30 -0800, "Ed Light"
wrote: "Ed" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, "* * Chas" wrote: Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Chas. Not sure but fwiw I have a newcastle 3200+ and replaced the pad with Artic Silver 3 and also tried the Artic Cremque?(spelling?) stuff, end result... no difference at all in temps, the stock AMD64 pads work great IMO. Ed Did you give them their 200 hours breakin? Just for comparison, I have two Athlon 64 3000+s on two different boards: 1. MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum using the AMD thermal pad 2. Asrock Dual SATAII 939 using Arctic Silver The MSI consistently runs about 6-7C hotter under low load than the Asrock. Both have had much more than the 200 hours break in. The difference is less under high load, perhaps 2-3C. The MSI case has two 80mm rear fans and one 80mm side fan -- it's a Monarch branded server case, I believe from Thermaltake, with an Enermax Whisper 420W PSU with one fan. The Asrock is in an Antec Super Lanboy case with 120mm fans front and back with an Antec NeoPower 480 modular PSU, also with one fan. For what it's worth... |
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AMD Boxed CPU Thermal Paste
* * Chas wrote:
Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Maximum PC, January 2006 issue, Page 70: "Thermal Paste Debate": The conclusion: "It doesn't matter what kind of thermal compund you use, as long as you use something". Search of their web site does not pull up article. Summary table: Idle Load (degrees C) Arctic Silver 5 36 54 Arctic Ceramique 35 53 (best) OCZ SIlver 8 36 53 (tie high load) Frozen CPU Copper 37 58 Generic crap 40 54 from Radio Shack FX-55 CPU, A8N-SLi mobo, Gigabyte Neon Coller heatsink/fan; recorded with Asus A.I utility; idle measured after 30 minutes zero load; "load" measured after running CPU burn in for one hour. (No mention of 200 hour "curing" time....) In my AMD 3000, I just used the stock heatsink/thermal pad....used to scrape/clean/buff, etc, and use Artic Silver, but, always seemed the temps I got were pretty average, and, I do not overclock... HTH, BC |
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AMD Boxed CPU Thermal Paste
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, * * Chas wrote:
Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Save yourself time and money and just use what you have. I got so tired of all the BS you see about thermal compounds I removed mine and replaced it with 30 year old wheel bearing grease last Sept.1. Current temps; CPU Temp: +35°C M/B Temp: +34°C Reason the MB temp is so high is I've got 4 HDTV tuner cards in this box. I highly recommend wheel bearing grease for it's ability to not dry out over the years. Wonder how well AS left open in the garage for 30 years would work.:-) To be honest I don't know how long ago the plastic tub the grease was in deteriorated and cracked open. Maybe only 10-20 years ago. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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"J. Eric Durbin" wrote The MSI case has two 80mm rear fans and one 80mm side fan -- it's a Just for fun, you could try closing up the side fan hole and see if it improves. Those can disturb the airflow from front to back. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org Fight Spam: http://bluesecurity.com |
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"BC" wrote Maximum PC, January 2006 issue, Page 70: "Thermal Paste Debate": The conclusion: "It doesn't matter what kind of thermal compund you use, as long as you use something". Possibly they didn't allow the 200 hrs. break-in time. There are many reviews listed on the Arctic Silver site where Ceramique beat Silver and Alumina by 1-2C, and in one review it beat Thermaltake generic by 7C, though that _was_ unusual. I friend used Alumina and the temps dropped several degrees over time from when he first fired it up. Ceramique is only $4. -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. Bring the Troops Home: http://bringthemhomenow.org Fight Spam: http://bluesecurity.com |
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message news:ThhIf.5913$3V4.2195@trnddc06... On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, * * Chas wrote: skip Save yourself time and money and just use what you have. I got so tired of all the BS you see about thermal compounds I removed mine and replaced it with 30 year old wheel bearing grease last Sept.1. Current temps; CPU Temp: +35°C M/B Temp: +34°C Reason the MB temp is so high is I've got 4 HDTV tuner cards in this box. I highly recommend wheel bearing grease for it's ability to not dry out over the years. Wonder how well AS left open in the garage for 30 years would work.:-) To be honest I don't know how long ago the plastic tub the grease was in deteriorated and cracked open. Maybe only 10-20 years ago. Maybe you're on to something! Many types of grease have metallic based high pressure lubricating compounds. White greases usually have lithium compounds which make them water resistant. Other HP additives use Sulfur, Chlorine or Phosphorus compounds. We could get some of the little plastic condiment cups that they use in fast food restaurants and repackage the WB Grease. We could sell the stuff for $6-$7 a cup! ;-) Chas. |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:20:51 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, * * Chas wrote: Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Save yourself time and money and just use what you have. I got so tired of all the BS you see about thermal compounds I removed mine and replaced it with 30 year old wheel bearing grease last Sept.1. Current temps; CPU Temp: +35°C M/B Temp: +34°C Reason the MB temp is so high is I've got 4 HDTV tuner cards in this box. I highly recommend wheel bearing grease for it's ability to not dry out over the years. Wonder how well AS left open in the garage for 30 years would work.:-) To be honest I don't know how long ago the plastic tub the grease was in deteriorated and cracked open. Maybe only 10-20 years ago. BEWARE. Grease not specifically intended for use with electronics will have unknown electrical conductivity/capacitance, let alone poorly-spec'd thermal conductivity. Be very careful not to smear it anywhere near any electrical contacts or circuitry -- and double-check that it does not ooze out and flow to undesired locations at high-temperatures. Remember that in a wheel-bearing, the grease is designed to flow sufficiently to lubricate all bearing surfaces continuously. John Lewis |
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"John Lewis" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:20:51 GMT, Wes Newell wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:09:28 -0800, * * Chas wrote: Does anyone here know what kind of thermal paste AMD uses on the pad on their latest heatsink/fans in the retail boxed CPUs? I picked up a retail boxed Athlon 64 3000+ CPU with a Venice core. The paste on the pad is silver and looks like it's either silver or aluminum. If it's already silver then I'll probably skip using Arctic Silver thermal paste. Save yourself time and money and just use what you have. I got so tired of all the BS you see about thermal compounds I removed mine and replaced it with 30 year old wheel bearing grease last Sept.1. Current temps; CPU Temp: +35°C M/B Temp: +34°C Reason the MB temp is so high is I've got 4 HDTV tuner cards in this box. I highly recommend wheel bearing grease for it's ability to not dry out over the years. Wonder how well AS left open in the garage for 30 years would work.:-) To be honest I don't know how long ago the plastic tub the grease was in deteriorated and cracked open. Maybe only 10-20 years ago. BEWARE. Grease not specifically intended for use with electronics will have unknown electrical conductivity/capacitance, let alone poorly-spec'd thermal conductivity. Be very careful not to smear it anywhere near any electrical contacts or circuitry -- and double-check that it does not ooze out and flow to undesired locations at high-temperatures. Remember that in a wheel-bearing, the grease is designed to flow sufficiently to lubricate all bearing surfaces continuously. Not to mention the fact that grese, when heated, gets thin and tends to seep (or ooze...) out unless somehow contained. |
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