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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
Hi, i repost a new thread, because i'me very anger with the Cameleon....
i think 6600 and 6800 AGP are bull****, everywhere you see some guys who have problems during 3D games.....My Leadtek 6600GT is as the others, work fine during 6 month and now, when screen saver or anything else working in D3D the PC slow down and freeze.... I've try many things picked up on forums : desactivate Fast Write, sideband adressing, force AGP aperture size to 256 in bios, replace thermal pad with artic silver5 on HSI bridge and to GPU heatsink, change my 2700 DDram to a new one 3200, refresh the Video card with a new fan additional, leave the case open.......it's always the same, SLOW DOWN and FREEZE..... today, i've played one hour with Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault, no freezing, i though i't was OK, just 5mn with Microsoft Plus ! Screen saver ====== slow down and freeze, i'v just had the time to control riva turner and speedfan monitoring, nothing was overheated, and now i think really those GPU are Big **** ! But wich one for remplacement ???? I was always happy with Nvidia TNT2, Geforce 2MX , Geforce 2 GTS, Geforce4 MX 400 and Geforce 4 TI 4200 worked fine, but now i'm very disapointed with Nvidia Tomorrow i'll try to get Zalman ZM VHS1 and VF700 CU, but i'm pretty sure it's timeless and money lost....... -- Roswellbob http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Sylvestre/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Arsouille/ |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
There's something wrong with the 6xxx series, but I can't tell
what it is. I have tried everything I can think of on two systems using GF 6800 cards ... one is AGP, one is PCI-e. Both are in new computers running WinXP with SP2, and all patches. Personally, I think it is drivers. All last year, the Far Cry players begged nVidia for compatible drivers, and they just never came. I think the present drivers are a kludge, and still garbage. I am seeing some of the weirdest problems with these 2 new 6800s that I have ever seen. None of those problems are predictable, and they only occur in 3D games ... where the cards were meant to be used. johns |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
"johns" wrote in message
oups.com... There's something wrong with the 6xxx series, but I can't tell what it is. I have tried everything I can think of on two systems using GF 6800 cards ... one is AGP, one is PCI-e. Both are in new computers running WinXP with SP2, and all patches. Personally, I think it is drivers. All last year, the Far Cry players begged nVidia for compatible drivers, and they just never came. I think the present drivers are a kludge, and still garbage. I am seeing some of the weirdest problems with these 2 new 6800s that I have ever seen. None of those problems are predictable, and they only occur in 3D games ... where the cards were meant to be used. johns Not The Way It's Meant To Be Played, I guess. |
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On the PCI-e card, I can get very good play in Far Cry
if I stick to AA 4x, Anti-Iso 1, Texture Medium, and the rest of the settings to High only. Nothing can go to Very High after the Bunker level. However, the first levels before Bunker play beautifully ????? Why?? Bunker level totally craps out if I use Very High settings. Amazing. It almost has to be a driver issue, or a Dx issue. This is a 256 meg card too. The 128 meg card crapped out much earlier with lots of screen stuttering. That is ram. The PCs I'm using are an AMD64 3000+ with 1 gig ddr400, and a Dell 9100 P4/64 with 1 gig ddr2. Nothing wrong with either of them for gaming. It is obviously a limited card with driver issues and memory leaks. My ATI 9800 Pro still kicks the crap out of both of those 6800s in Far Cry. I think nVidia needs to get off its royal butt, and quit bragging about their stupid cards and fix these problems. Other wise, guys like me, the techs out here, are going to quit pulling our punches. Right now, an nVidia GF 6800 ( any flavor ) cannot top an ATI 9800 Pro in Far Cry. Why is that? Maybe ATI gives a damn. johns |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
Roswellbob wrote in message ... Hi, i repost a new thread, because i'me very anger with the Cameleon.... i think 6600 and 6800 AGP are bull****, everywhere you see some guys who have problems during 3D games.....My Leadtek 6600GT is as the others, work fine during 6 month and now, when screen saver or anything else working in D3D the PC slow down and freeze.... I've try many things picked up on forums : desactivate Fast Write, sideband adressing, force AGP aperture size to 256 in bios, replace thermal pad with artic silver5 on HSI bridge and to GPU heatsink, change my 2700 DDram to a new one 3200, refresh the Video card with a new fan additional, leave the case open.......it's always the same, SLOW DOWN and FREEZE..... today, i've played one hour with Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault, no freezing, i though i't was OK, just 5mn with Microsoft Plus ! Screen saver ====== slow down and freeze, i'v just had the time to control riva turner and speedfan monitoring, nothing was overheated, and now i think really those GPU are Big **** ! But wich one for remplacement ???? I was always happy with Nvidia TNT2, Geforce 2MX , Geforce 2 GTS, Geforce4 MX 400 and Geforce 4 TI 4200 worked fine, but now i'm very disapointed with Nvidia Tomorrow i'll try to get Zalman ZM VHS1 and VF700 CU, but i'm pretty sure it's timeless and money lost....... -- Roswellbob http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Sylvestre/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Arsouille/ I think it would be cheaper for you to just disable the screen saver? |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
"Paul Goodhew" schrieb Roswellbob wrote in message ... Hi, i repost a new thread, because i'me very anger with the Cameleon.... i think 6600 and 6800 AGP are bull****, everywhere you see some guys who have problems during 3D games.....My Leadtek 6600GT is as the others, work fine during 6 month and now, when screen saver or anything else working in D3D the PC slow down and freeze.... I've try many things picked up on forums : desactivate Fast Write, sideband adressing, force AGP aperture size to 256 in bios, replace thermal pad with artic silver5 on HSI bridge and to GPU heatsink, change my 2700 DDram to a new one 3200, refresh the Video card with a new fan additional, leave the case open.......it's always the same, SLOW DOWN and FREEZE..... today, i've played one hour with Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault, no freezing, i though i't was OK, just 5mn with Microsoft Plus ! Screen saver ====== slow down and freeze, i'v just had the time to control riva turner and speedfan monitoring, nothing was overheated, and now i think really those GPU are Big **** ! But wich one for remplacement ???? I was always happy with Nvidia TNT2, Geforce 2MX , Geforce 2 GTS, Geforce4 MX 400 and Geforce 4 TI 4200 worked fine, but now i'm very disapointed with Nvidia Tomorrow i'll try to get Zalman ZM VHS1 and VF700 CU, but i'm pretty sure it's timeless and money lost....... -- Roswellbob http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Sylvestre/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Arsouille/ I think it would be cheaper for you to just disable the screen saver? Full Ack. Life is a Workaround. Save even more money and let your monitor switch-off automatically (Energy Options in the Screensaver menu) after 10 minutes or whatever you had set your screensaver before. Cu, Michael |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
Pour occuper son temps libre "Michael Tipotsch"
nous a gentiment octroyé la missive : et y développa le thême de : Full Ack. Life is a Workaround. Save even more money and let your monitor switch-off automatically (Energy Options in the Screensaver menu) after 10 minutes or whatever you had set your screensaver before. Bad experiment about it, i had a IIyama master Pro451 who did not like it, TFT was down under three years..... -- Roswellbob http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Sylvestre/ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gastounet/Arsouille/ |
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"johns" Right now, an nVidia GF 6800 ( any flavor ) cannot top an ATI 9800 Pro in Far Cry. Why is that? Maybe ATI gives a damn. johns Your statement is full of ****. I have a 9800 Pro 128 meg (built by ATI), 6800-128 meg and 6800GT 256 meg, and in either a P4 3.0E or A64 X2 4800+ both with 2 gigs PC3200 in dual channel, the 6800's are faster than the 9800 Pro in Far Cry, Half-Life 2 and Doom3. One other thing, the 6800's are faster in 1280x1024 with all the goodies on than the 9800 Pro is in 1024x768 with all the goodies on. I've got the 9800 Pro and 6800GT here and have seen how well they perform in these games. While the 9800 Pro isn't shabby, it sure isn't going to put even the 6800 128 meg down. Drivers. I've had far more problems with the 9800 Pro and drivers than I have *ANY* card I've owned except a Matrox Millenium G200 32 meg AGP card. Of all the ATI cards I own or have owned, the 8500 128 meg was by far the most stable of the entire lot with any driver set. You THINK ATI cares? Neither they nor Nvidia really give a care about us as individuals OR what we go through with their products/drivers. They care about market. If they do something that threatens their market value, they jump through hoops to fix it immediately. US? Take a number, get in line and here's a pacifier. McG. |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
So is yours. ATI builds all ATI cards .. so you don't know
what you are talking about right in the first sentence. nVidia only builds chipsets, and they don't make any of their cards. That means the 6800s are made by just about anybody, and there are good ones, and there are bad ones of the same model. So who makes the good ones ? johns |
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Geforce 6xxx Series are they really OK ?
"johns" schrieb im Newsbeitrag oups.com... So is yours. ATI builds all ATI cards .. so you don't know what you are talking about right in the first sentence. nVidia only builds chipsets, and they don't make any of their cards. That means the 6800s are made by just about anybody, and there are good ones, and there are bad ones of the same model. So who makes the good ones ? johns Nvidia only builds the GPU, but Nvidia makes a reference design for the cards as well. All the card-manufacturers use this reference design, eventually with very minor changes. In my opinion the biggest weakness of the 6xxx are their high temperatures, but it seems this problem is solved with the 7xxx. Cu, Michael |
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