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Old November 19th 03, 10:31 PM
Charles Howse
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Default How can I get advertised burn speed?

Hello Group,
I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group, please let me know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x Read.
This burner worked beautifully in Windows.
I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an answer to
this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue?
A debug dump from the last burn session I ran is included at the bottom of
this msg.
This session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk.
The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74 Min.
If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.

TIA,
Charles

----- Begin debug dump -----
Checking recording device!
scsidev: '00,01,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
Driver options:
burnfree Prepare writer to use BURN-Free technology
noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology
forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality media
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.8) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'help'
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info : 'AOPEN '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW5224 '
Revision : '1.06'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Driver for the current drive is present and valid!
Starting burn process!
fs: 4194304 buflen: 4198400
cdrecord: shared memory segment attached at: 2814B000 size 4198400
buf: 2814B000 bufend: 2854C000, buflen: 4198400
buf: 2814B000 bufend: 2854C000, buflen: 4198400 (align 0)
scsidev: '00,01,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
scg__open() 0,1,0
SCSI buffer size: 64512
scgo_getbuf: 64512 bytes
File: '/disk2/moe/4.8-RELEASE-i386-mini.iso' itracksize: 209289216 isecsize:
2048 tracktype: 1 = CD-ROM sectype: 21 = CD-ROM mode 1 dbtype: CD-ROM mode
1 flags 1080
dev: '00,01,00' speed: 52 fs: -1 driveropts 'burnproof'
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.8) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'burnproof'
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info : 'AOPEN '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW5224 '
Revision : '1.06'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB
FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
bufsize: 65536 buffers: 64 hdrsize 1280
bufsize: 65536 buffers: 64 hdrsize 1280
Track 01: data 199 MB
Total size: 229 MB (22:42.58) = 102194 sectors
Lout start: 229 MB (22:44/44) = 102194 sectors
Pages: 0x1 0x3 0x5 0x7 0x8 0xD 0xE 0x1A 0x1C 0x1D 0x2A 0x2C 0x30
Pages: 0x1 0x3 0x5 0x7 0x8 0xD 0xE 0x1A 0x1C 0x1D 0x2A 0x2C 0x30
Current Secsize: -1
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Reference speed: 2
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable
ATIP start of lead in: -11635 (97:26/65)
ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00)
1T speed low: 0 (reserved val 0) 1T speed high: 4
2T speed low: 8 2T speed high: 0 (reserved val 10)
power mult factor: 4 6
recommended erase/write power: 3
A1 values: 02 4C B0
A2 values: 4A C8 06
Disk type: Phase change
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 337350 Blocks current: 337350 Blocks remaining: 235156
Using 64 buffers of 64512 bytes.
Forcespeed is OFF.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 52 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starti1 seconds.
0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is ON.
Performing OPC...
secsize:2048 secspt:31 bytespt:63488 audio:0 pad:0
Burning Track 0 of 199 MB written., percent done:
100% : 199 of 199 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%] 4.2x.
gets: 1 puts: 64 cont: 63 low: 64
gets: 2 puts: 64 cont: 62 low: 63
gets: 3 puts: 64 cont: 61 low: 62
gets: 4 puts: 64 cont: 60 low: 61
gets: 10 puts: 69 cont: 59 low: 60
gets: 11 puts: 69 cont: 58 low: 59
gets: 12 puts: 69 cont: 57 low: 58
gets: 13 puts: 69 cont: 56 low: 57
faio_reader _exit(0)
NOTICE: reducing block size for last record.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 209289216/209289216 (102192 sectors).
Writing time: 344.090s
Average write speed 4.0x.
Min drive buffer fill was 100%
Fixating...
Fixating time: 77.412s
BURN-Free was never needed.
cdrecord: fifo had 3297 puts and 3297 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 3215 times full, min fill was 87%.
Burn completed successfully!
Operation completed successfully!
  #2  
Old November 20th 03, 12:01 AM
Sparker9
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A common rating for standard CD-RW discs is 4x (maximum). I have a 5 =
pack of them sold a under the TDK label.

If the media is only rated at 4x, that's all you're going to get out of =
it.

There are free utilities available that will read the media info for =
you. Here's one of them:
http://upload.cdfreaks.com/Kprobe/SMARTBURN2.0.zip

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Win2K SP4/IE6 SP1/Office XP SP2/Nero 5.5.10.50
Intel Celeron-S 1300 MHz, 512 MB Ram

"Charles Howse" wrote in message =
...
Hello Group,
I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group, please let me =

know.
=20
I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x =

Read.
This burner worked beautifully in Windows.
I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an =

answer to
this.
=20
I can't burn faster than 4x
=20
Can anoyne help me solve this issue?
A debug dump from the last burn session I ran is included at the =

bottom of
this msg.
This session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk.
The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74 Min.
If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.
=20
TIA,
Charles
=20
----- Begin debug dump -----
Checking recording device!
scsidev: '00,01,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
Driver options:
burnfree Prepare writer to use BURN-Free technology
noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology
forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality =

media
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.8) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 =

J=F6rg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 =3D CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'help'
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info : 'AOPEN '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW5224 '
Revision : '1.06'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Driver for the current drive is present and valid!
Starting burn process!
fs: 4194304 buflen: 4198400
cdrecord: shared memory segment attached at: 2814B000 size 4198400
buf: 2814B000 bufend: 2854C000, buflen: 4198400
buf: 2814B000 bufend: 2854C000, buflen: 4198400 (align 0)
scsidev: '00,01,00'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
scg__open() 0,1,0
SCSI buffer size: 64512
scgo_getbuf: 64512 bytes
File: '/disk2/moe/4.8-RELEASE-i386-mini.iso' itracksize: 209289216 =

isecsize:
2048 tracktype: 1 =3D CD-ROM sectype: 21 =3D CD-ROM mode 1 dbtype: =

CD-ROM mode
1 flags 1080
dev: '00,01,00' speed: 52 fs: -1 driveropts 'burnproof'
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.8) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 =

J=F6rg
Schilling
TOC Type: 1 =3D CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'burnproof'
atapi: 0
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info : 'AOPEN '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW5224 '
Revision : '1.06'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1359872 =3D 1328 KB
FIFO size : 4194304 =3D 4096 KB
bufsize: 65536 buffers: 64 hdrsize 1280
bufsize: 65536 buffers: 64 hdrsize 1280
Track 01: data 199 MB
Total size: 229 MB (22:42.58) =3D 102194 sectors
Lout start: 229 MB (22:44/44) =3D 102194 sectors
Pages: 0x1 0x3 0x5 0x7 0x8 0xD 0xE 0x1A 0x1C 0x1D 0x2A 0x2C 0x30
Pages: 0x1 0x3 0x5 0x7 0x8 0xD 0xE 0x1A 0x1C 0x1D 0x2A 0x2C 0x30
Current Secsize: -1
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Reference speed: 2
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable
ATIP start of lead in: -11635 (97:26/65)
ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00)
1T speed low: 0 (reserved val 0) 1T speed high: 4
2T speed low: 8 2T speed high: 0 (reserved val 10)
power mult factor: 4 6
recommended erase/write power: 3
A1 values: 02 4C B0
A2 values: 4A C8 06
Disk type: Phase change
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 337350 Blocks current: 337350 Blocks remaining: 235156
Using 64 buffers of 64512 bytes.
Forcespeed is OFF.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 52 in real TAO mode for single =

session.
Last chance to quit, starti1 seconds.
0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is ON.
Performing OPC...
secsize:2048 secspt:31 bytespt:63488 audio:0 pad:0
Burning Track 0 of 199 MB written., percent done:
100% : 199 of 199 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%] 4.2x.
gets: 1 puts: 64 cont: 63 low: 64
gets: 2 puts: 64 cont: 62 low: 63
gets: 3 puts: 64 cont: 61 low: 62
gets: 4 puts: 64 cont: 60 low: 61
gets: 10 puts: 69 cont: 59 low: 60
gets: 11 puts: 69 cont: 58 low: 59
gets: 12 puts: 69 cont: 57 low: 58
gets: 13 puts: 69 cont: 56 low: 57
faio_reader _exit(0)
NOTICE: reducing block size for last record.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 209289216/209289216 (102192 =

sectors).
Writing time: 344.090s
Average write speed 4.0x.
Min drive buffer fill was 100%
Fixating...
Fixating time: 77.412s
BURN-Free was never needed.
cdrecord: fifo had 3297 puts and 3297 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 3215 times full, min fill was =

87%.
Burn completed successfully!
Operation completed successfully!



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  #3  
Old November 20th 03, 01:24 AM
Charles Howse
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Sparker9 wrote:

A common rating for standard CD-RW discs is 4x (maximum). I have a 5 pack
of them sold a under the TDK label.

If the media is only rated at 4x, that's all you're going to get out of
it.

There are free utilities available that will read the media info for you.
Here's one of them: http://upload.cdfreaks.com/Kprobe/SMARTBURN2.0.zip

That may very well be the problem. I'm out of CD-R's right now. I'll
borrow one and try again.
Thanks for the reply!
  #4  
Old November 20th 03, 07:28 AM
Mike Richter
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Charles Howse wrote:
Hello Group, I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group,
please let me know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x
Read. This burner worked beautifully in Windows. I have read Andy
McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an answer to this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue? A debug dump from the last burn
session I ran is included at the bottom of this msg. This session was
burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk. The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74
Min. If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.


Is the disc HighSpeed or UltraSpeed?

I don't know your software, but somewhere it should report to you what
the ATIP says about the disc's properties. If the logo on the package
does not say HighSpeed or UltraSpeed, the disc won't write faster than
4x. If the ATIP says max speed is 4x, that's the maximum.

Mike
--

http://www.mrichter.com/

  #5  
Old November 20th 03, 04:35 PM
Charles Howse
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Mike Richter wrote:

Charles Howse wrote:
Hello Group, I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group,
please let me know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x
Read. This burner worked beautifully in Windows. I have read Andy
McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an answer to this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue? A debug dump from the last burn
session I ran is included at the bottom of this msg. This session was
burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk. The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74
Min. If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.


Is the disc HighSpeed or UltraSpeed?

I don't know your software, but somewhere it should report to you what
the ATIP says about the disc's properties. If the logo on the package
does not say HighSpeed or UltraSpeed, the disc won't write faster than
4x. If the ATIP says max speed is 4x, that's the maximum.


Mike,
Please notice in the dumpfile I included with my original post that the ATIP
info from the disk is blank. Or...the data below ATIP info from disk
indicates 4x max. I'll solve this as soon as I can go get a few High-speed
CD-R's.

ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Reference speed: 2
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable
ATIP start of lead in:**-11635*(97:26/65)
ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00)
1T speed low:**0*(reserved*val**0)*1T*speed*high:**4
2T speed low:**8*2T*speed*high:**0*(reserved*val*10)

  #6  
Old November 20th 03, 06:57 PM
Charles Howse
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Charles Howse wrote:

Hello Group,
I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group, please let me
know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x Read.
This burner worked beautifully in Windows.
I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an answer to
this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue?
A debug dump from the last burn session I ran is included at the bottom of
this msg.
This session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk.
The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74 Min.
If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.


It was the CD-RW max speed that was holding me back.

I bought some Fuji 48x CD-R's, and just recorded 2 at about 24x each.
I'll do some more research and see if I can do anything to bump it up to
52x.

I suppose it could be the fact that the .iso image I used for burning was on
a HD on the same controller as the burner, it could also be that this
burner will operate at a lower speed unless you press one of the buttons
until the light blinks twice, and then it speeds up to max. I forgot to do
that.
  #7  
Old November 20th 03, 08:31 PM
Sparker9
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If the Fuji's are rated at 48x....that's the maximum you can ever hope =
to get out of them (at best).

Use the tool that I referenced previously to analyze the media's specs. =
Sometimes the mfg's rating may be overstated.

I've read that's it's a good rule of thumb to burn at one-half the =
burner's maximum (assuming the media allows this rate). I think the =
higher rates only really count if one's into a production run (IMHO).

--=20
Snarky Parker
.......Please respond to newsgroup only (e-mail is blocked)
Win2K SP4/IE6 SP1/Office XP SP2/Nero 5.5.10.50
Intel Celeron-S 1300 MHz, 512 MB Ram

"Charles Howse" wrote in message =
...
Charles Howse wrote:
=20
Hello Group,
I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper group, please let =

me
know.
=20
I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13.
I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x Record 24x Rewrite 52x =

Read.
This burner worked beautifully in Windows.
I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't find an =

answer to
this.
=20
I can't burn faster than 4x
=20
Can anoyne help me solve this issue?
A debug dump from the last burn session I ran is included at the =

bottom of
this msg.
This session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk.
The disk is an Imation 650MB, 74 Min.
If I can tell you anything else, please let me know.

=20
It was the CD-RW max speed that was holding me back.
=20
I bought some Fuji 48x CD-R's, and just recorded 2 at about 24x each.
I'll do some more research and see if I can do anything to bump it up =

to
52x. =20
=20
I suppose it could be the fact that the .iso image I used for burning =

was on
a HD on the same controller as the burner, it could also be that this
burner will operate at a lower speed unless you press one of the =

buttons
until the light blinks twice, and then it speeds up to max. I forgot =

to do
that.



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  #8  
Old November 20th 03, 10:10 PM
Mike Richter
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Charles Howse wrote:
Mike Richter wrote:


Charles Howse wrote:
Hello Group, I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper
group, please let me know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD
4.8-RELEASE-p13. I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x
Record 24x Rewrite 52x Read. This burner worked beautifully in
Windows. I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't
find an answer to this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue? A debug dump from the last
burn session I ran is included at the bottom of this msg. This
session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk. The disk is an
Imation 650MB, 74 Min. If I can tell you anything else, please
let me know.


Is the disc HighSpeed or UltraSpeed?

I don't know your software, but somewhere it should report to you
what the ATIP says about the disc's properties. If the logo on the
package does not say HighSpeed or UltraSpeed, the disc won't write
faster than 4x. If the ATIP says max speed is 4x, that's the
maximum.



Mike, Please notice in the dumpfile I included with my original post
that the ATIP info from the disk is blank. Or...the data below ATIP
info from disk indicates 4x max. I'll solve this as soon as I can go
get a few High-speed CD-R's.

ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Reference speed: 2 Is
not unrestricted Is erasable ATIP start of lead in: -11635
(97:26/65) ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00) 1T speed low: 0
(reserved val 0) 1T speed high: 4 2T speed low: 8 2T speed high:
0 (reserved val 10)


I saw but could not interpret what I read. That is, "not unrestricted"
means the speed is restricted to something - but what? If restricted to
4x (1T), then it is neither HighSpeed nor UltraSpeed and cannot be
written faster than 4x. But what does 2T mean?

Mike
--

http://www.mrichter.com/

  #9  
Old November 20th 03, 11:42 PM
Charles Howse
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Sparker9 wrote:

If the Fuji's are rated at 48x....that's the maximum you can ever hope to
get out of them (at best).

Use the tool that I referenced previously to analyze the media's specs.
Sometimes the mfg's rating may be overstated.

I've read that's it's a good rule of thumb to burn at one-half the
burner's maximum (assuming the media allows this rate). I think the higher
rates only really count if one's into a production run (IMHO).


Unix Operating Systems can't use .exe files.
  #10  
Old November 20th 03, 11:42 PM
Charles Howse
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Mike Richter wrote:

Charles Howse wrote:
Mike Richter wrote:


Charles Howse wrote:
Hello Group, I hate to crosspost, so if this isn't the proper
group, please let me know.

I am using cdbakeoven 1.8.9 on KDE 3.1.4 on FreeBSD
4.8-RELEASE-p13. I have an AOPEN CD-RW CRW5224, which is 52x
Record 24x Rewrite 52x Read. This burner worked beautifully in
Windows. I have read Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, but can't
find an answer to this.

I can't burn faster than 4x

Can anoyne help me solve this issue? A debug dump from the last
burn session I ran is included at the bottom of this msg. This
session was burning an iso file to a CD-RW disk. The disk is an
Imation 650MB, 74 Min. If I can tell you anything else, please
let me know.

Is the disc HighSpeed or UltraSpeed?

I don't know your software, but somewhere it should report to you
what the ATIP says about the disc's properties. If the logo on the
package does not say HighSpeed or UltraSpeed, the disc won't write
faster than 4x. If the ATIP says max speed is 4x, that's the
maximum.



Mike, Please notice in the dumpfile I included with my original post
that the ATIP info from the disk is blank. Or...the data below ATIP
info from disk indicates 4x max. I'll solve this as soon as I can go
get a few High-speed CD-R's.

ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Reference speed: 2 Is
not unrestricted Is erasable ATIP start of lead in: -11635
(97:26/65) ATIP start of lead out: 337350 (75:00/00) 1T speed low: 0
(reserved val 0) 1T speed high: 4 2T speed low: 8 2T speed high:
0 (reserved val 10)


I saw but could not interpret what I read. That is, "not unrestricted"
means the speed is restricted to something - but what? If restricted to
4x (1T), then it is neither HighSpeed nor UltraSpeed and cannot be
written faster than 4x. But what does 2T mean?

Mike


I'm afraid I have no idea. :-(
 




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