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Ralph Wade Phillips wrote:
Howdy! "Rob Stow" wrote in message news:xRmCd.683192$nl.106222@pd7tw3no... Robert Hancock wrote: They don't make their own boards, but they do have boards made for them (usually by Intel) Intel hasn't made a motherboard for about 6 years now ! *blink* Funny, this 3.2G Dell P4 with the Intel logo'ed board is a bit newer than 6 years old. (Not the machine I'm on - the one with the knackered 120G drive in it) The logo says nothing about who manufactured it. It is quite common for one company to rebadge a product that they had contracted out to someone else. See if you can find something on the board about where it was made, then see if you can find an Intel plant in that country. |
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:08:02 +0000, Rob Nicholson wrote:
20% for not being able to support them *properly* when the machine goes down is worth it is it? Dell kit is incredibly reliable mainly because you don't mess around with it. The only Dell hardware we've had fail is a CD-ROM and video output from one laptop. Compared to the Compaq iPAQ that litereraly blew up, the custom built Gigabyte system that decided to stop working with WD hard disk and won't run through the KVM, the 3 Toshiba laptops that have developed several faults etc... If one of the Dell base units failed, we wouldn't bother trying to fix it. We'd simply buy a new base unit for ~£200. £200 doesn't buy you a lot of "fixing" time and you'll have a nice new higher-spec box anyway. Surely that would depend on what blew. If a hard drive, optical unit etc. goes then you just order up random new hard disk and stick it in. Fans might be more tricky as they use blowers on at least the small desktop chassis, but the mini towers use normal fans. Generally speaking motherboards are not something that go frequently. You do have to be careful with the upgrades. Last time I checked (just before Christmas) a dual layer DVD writer upgrade was something like £99+VAT, and it only does +R disks, and a CDRW/DVD combo unit was about £37+VAT. I always get my own separately and fit it myself, takes about 5 minutes and saves a bundle. JAB. -- Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 1661-832195 |
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:25:40 +0000, Rob Nicholson wrote:
Any small time independent who goes out of business isn't going to have the same impact on a business *if* they supplied 100% compliant ATX systems. I agree with this :-) I'm at a loss why they use propriatary parts. Unless it's for cost saving. Because they offer something different. Tell me how you propose to build a system like a small desktop chassis Optiplex with standard parts, in a screwless chassis? You are not. Dell are sufficiently large that they can do their own case/form factors which allows them to do things not possible (or easy/cheap) if you are trying to conform to the ATX specification. JAB. -- Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 1661-832195 |
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:47:47 +1300, Mercury wrote:
2d graphics: The best PCI is up with average AGP. 3d graphics: AGP by leaps and bounds. Good PCI graphics is hard to come by. Gosh I remember the day of ISA graphics cards and you could watch windows draw the drop list of a combo box so sloooowly. Chances are the onboard graphic would be good for 2d and it would be expensive to find a PCI card better at 2d. 3d dunno. It is only now that these flash 3D graphics cards have the performance of the old Matrox Millenium II on a PCI card for 2D stuff. The performance of WRAM was still is amazing. You also get a much better picture with those old Matrox cards than you do with these modern 3D cards. The RAMDAC quality is really outstanding. A really good 2D card is a Millenium II in it's ultra rare AGP configuration. JAB. -- Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 1661-832195 |
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Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:47:47 +1300, Mercury wrote: 2d graphics: The best PCI is up with average AGP. 3d graphics: AGP by leaps and bounds. Good PCI graphics is hard to come by. Gosh I remember the day of ISA graphics cards and you could watch windows draw the drop list of a combo box so sloooowly. Chances are the onboard graphic would be good for 2d and it would be expensive to find a PCI card better at 2d. 3d dunno. It is only now that these flash 3D graphics cards have the performance of the old Matrox Millenium II on a PCI card for 2D stuff. The performance of WRAM was still is amazing. You also get a much better picture with those old Matrox cards than you do with these modern 3D cards. The RAMDAC quality is really outstanding. A really good 2D card is a Millenium II in it's ultra rare AGP configuration. I second that. I have solved headache and eye strain problems for a lot of people by switching them over from an nVidia or ATI card or integrated video to a Matrox card. Even a PCI version is more than good enough when you don't need 3D. In addition to the Millenium II, I would also recommend the G400, G450, G550, P650, P750, and Parhelia. I find the quality improvement is impossible to see if your current video card is providing DVI output to a DVI LCD, but if your monitor needs an analog input then Matrox is the only way to go when quality 2D is needed. |
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