Skybuck's Dream PC for 2006 in a COMA !

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John Larkin wrote:

Throw 5000 euro's in the waste basket ?


FIVE THOUSAND EUROS?!!

You could have bought three or four primo hot-plug-raid-ed HP boxes,
with redundant fans, power supplies, and BIOS's, for that sort of
money.

He must be a troll. There simply isn't any way to spend 5000 EUR on any kind
of PC.

robert

"Skybuck" skrev i en meddelelse
ups.com...
Hello,

Today I booted my computer and not long after it frooze, then I
rebooted it again and it frooze again.

Call the Wah-bulance!

Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:

"Skybuck" skrev i en meddelelse
ups.com...
Hello,

Today I booted my computer and not long after it frooze, then I
rebooted it again and it frooze again.

Call the Wah-bulance!


Just get a bigger hammer, and teach it a lesson.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Well,

Yesterday I cleaned the PC of lot's of dust, and then I reconnected
everything, leaving it off, planning to update the bios today.

I just tried it, the computer booted, the asus logo appeared, I tried
to go to the boot menu to disable some stuff or so or too look at it.

Then it frooze again, I rebooted, it work again (for the last time so
far).

The last thing it tried to detect was the usb mass storage device and
then it frooze again.

(It has also been detecting the sata harddisks as ide harddisks not
sure if that's normal).

I then retried the reset cmos trick but no effect.

It seems the PC has slipped back into coma for good ?

I will try one last time after this internet session...

If it does work, then I will connect:

PS/2 keyboard instead of USB keyboard, floppy disk, and one graphics
card and nothing else.

Otherwise I will have to go with plan B:

1. New case

2. New motherboard

Bye,
Skybuck ( :P* =D

On Jun 1, 1:16 am, Jamie
t wrote:
Skybuckwrote:
On May 31, 3:54 pm, John Larkin
wrote:

On 31 May 2007 05:52:29
wrote:

Hello,

Today I booted my computer and not long after it frooze, then I
rebooted it again and it frooze again.

The last time I rebooted all network cables where unplugged and then
it frooze again.

And now it seems the motherboard/bios (ASUS A8N32-SLI) is dead ?!?

Most likely causes:

1. Beta Bios Update 1405.
2. Chieftec Power Button getting stuck, possibly causing power surges.
3. Power punch on tv cable system/internet system entering via network
controller chips.
4. Power punch on power box some months ago.
5. Logitech G3 mouse causing power feedback.
6. Static electricty from summer shoes somehow got into the PC, maybe
via G3 mouse cables ?
7. Unnoticed CPU Fan failure, CPU might be dead ?
8. Bad electronics on asus motherboard.
9. Cyberattack via network.
10. Bios virus via downloaded files.
11. Constant ARP broadcast of ISP caused to much strange on ethernet
controller/chip.
12. Too much heat killed it.

Not sure what I am gonna do... maybe wait a day to see if it works
again tomorrow and then
try to flash back the bios to a non-beta version.

This is the second motherboard that has died not long after a BIOS
flash, so that makes
flashing the bios most suspicious. The other board was a gigabyte.

Also the otherboard also died after many power button/reset issue's.

The same events happened... power resets/bios flashes = leads to dead
motherboard/bios.

Pure speculation ofcourse but this is the most likely cause.

If this is really true then I am kinda screwed:

1. I have to replace the cases which does have a good power on button.
How do I find out
which case does have a good power button ? I really like the
chieftec case, the only
thing wrong with it is the power button.

2. I don't like sleep mode and will never use it so that's not an
option.

I think the best thing I can do right now is:

1. Find a new better case.

2. Buy a new motherboard.

3. Buy new thermal paste interface material.

3. Rebuild computer

4. Attempt to send dead motherboard to supplier to see if I can get a
new one just in case
the other one dies as well.

Last but more expensive option:

5. Buy new motherboard, new cpu and new ram as an upgrade for more cpu
power

With pain in my heart I must come to the conclusion that Chieftec has
build the worst case
possible.

A case which damaged my motherboard.

I think it's a very good suspect... however the bios upgrade might be
the cause as well.

However I can not risk damaging another motherboard, so the case has
got to go just in case
it was the cause.

This also raises warranty question:

1. Can I return the case because of malfunctioning power button and
possibly get another case ?

You can bet your ass I am going to contact the reseller and inform him
about this defect.

I am gonna look at this as another experience and another adventure to
be under taken by TheSkybuck! =DDDDDD

I really do hope that manufactures learn from this and do not repeat
these mistakes

Also if Chieftec did test their power button they would have known...
strange !

Other questions:

2. How can I detect static eletricity build up in my own body ? are
there devices for it ?

3. Do dutch resellers sell, static eletricity matts or wristes or
something that helps just in case.

(I don't think static electricty killed it... but any help to prevent
damage is welcome.. gotta be able to prove if it was static
electricity )

4. Does asus test motherboards with faulty power buttons ? (multiple
on/off's within a few seconds ?)

And finally: **** I am screwed =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

Toss it in a dumpster and buy a nice HP.

John- Hide quoted text -

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Throw 5000 euro's in the waste basket ?

Thanks for the useless advice, NOT.

What I probably do need is:

1. A new case, with a good power button.

2. A new motherboard.

I don't need your crappy advice, I don't need HP's stuff.

HP doesn't even sell loose components, only complete PC's with limited
choices

Bye,
Skybuck.

maybe you should check your PS and caps on the MB.
Caps are known to short, look for leaking ones and maybe
those that have the tops split of bubbled up.

No sign of that.

also, does the Fan in the PS operate ?
You may find it's just a PS issue.

Power Supply Fan works.

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck" wrote in message
ups.com...
YEEEEEEAAAHHHHH,

I was browsing the internet with my old Pentium III and googling for
dead a8n32-sli, and I came across this thread about corrupted bios-es.

And somebody said: Try resetting the bios via a special jumper.

He said it would reset the bios to an old version.

Somebody else said, no it just resets the cmos !

The manual says it resets the cmos !

So here is what I already tried which did not work:

1. I removed the battery while all cables unplugged. That alone did
not work !

So here is what I did that somehow DID work !:

I checked the manual and it did have a procedure and I followed it
precisely:

1. Unplug all cables.

2. Remove the battery.

3. Move the cap on the jumper.

4. Wait 10 seconds

5. Insert battery.

6. Turn power on.

7. Boot system !

AND AMAZINGLY IT WORKED !!!!

That's truely amazing ?!?!?!

How can a JUMPER movement possibly fix it ?

Was there still a low ammount of voltage present ?

AMAZING !


For the love of GOD!!!!!!!! GO do a course and LEARN WTF you are doing! if
you don't know something as simple as a cmos reset procedure there isn't
much hope for you.

"Skybuck" wrote in message
ps.com...
Well,

Yesterday I cleaned the PC of lot's of dust, and then I reconnected
everything, leaving it off, planning to update the bios today.

I just tried it, the computer booted, the asus logo appeared, I tried
to go to the boot menu to disable some stuff or so or too look at it.

Then it frooze again, I rebooted, it work again (for the last time so
far).

The last thing it tried to detect was the usb mass storage device and
then it frooze again.

(It has also been detecting the sata harddisks as ide harddisks not
sure if that's normal).

I then retried the reset cmos trick but no effect.

It seems the PC has slipped back into coma for good ?


Power supply


I will try one last time after this internet session...


Please don't bother

If it does work, then I will connect:

PS/2 keyboard instead of USB keyboard, floppy disk, and one graphics
card and nothing else.

Otherwise I will have to go with plan B:

1. New case

2. New motherboard


I told you time for Moronbucks 2007 and half June version. Nah actually go
to a toy store and get a kiddys computer you would have less trouble.

"Skybuck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello,

Today I booted my computer and not long after it frooze, then I
rebooted it again and it frooze again.

The last time I rebooted all network cables where unplugged and then
it frooze again.

And now it seems the motherboard/bios (ASUS A8N32-SLI) is dead ?!?

Most likely causes:

1. Beta Bios Update 1405.
2. Chieftec Power Button getting stuck, possibly causing power surges.
3. Power punch on tv cable system/internet system entering via network
controller chips.
4. Power punch on power box some months ago.
5. Logitech G3 mouse causing power feedback.
6. Static electricty from summer shoes somehow got into the PC, maybe
via G3 mouse cables ?
7. Unnoticed CPU Fan failure, CPU might be dead ?
8. Bad electronics on asus motherboard.
9. Cyberattack via network.
10. Bios virus via downloaded files.
11. Constant ARP broadcast of ISP caused to much strange on ethernet
controller/chip.
12. Too much heat killed it.

13 it Commited suicide from having to put up with a moron using it.

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Skybuck wrote:

Hello,

Today I booted my computer and not long after it frooze, then I
rebooted it again and it frooze again.


Can you blame it? It doesn't like you, because you force it to troll
all the time. I can see you've burnt out the spell checker, too.


Needs new powersupply..

Skybuck wrote:
And finally: **** I am screwed =D

Bye,
Skybuck.


Excellent analysis. You were able to come to that conclusion even
without giving proper weight to your adolescent behavior, mental health
issues or loser lifestyle. There may be hope for you after all !!