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Anyone tried the F8 bios for 8KNXP?



 
 
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  #11  
Old November 21st 03, 03:11 PM
Peter Bungart
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"Old Dude" wrote in message
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With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS
menu screen.
I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the
initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed

(GigRAID,
Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen.


This is another problem I have-- that you have to wait before you can access
the BIOS. This was true for me with both F7 & F8. I find this unacceptable.
Is this normal, by Gigabyte's design?

Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no
problems like this.

I have also removed both the CMOS battery and the power supply AC cord,
waited 5 minutes, and still no change in behavior.


The only thing I can think of is that 5 minutes isn't long enough to clear
your CMOS.

Do you have a backup on floppy of a previously working BIOS version? Check
your keyboard connection, & if you can get back into your BIOS (& use your
keyboard) flash your MAIN BIOS back to that version. It should restore your
pc back to working order.

But I wish we could figure out why some of us have success with F8 & some of
us don't.....




  #12  
Old November 21st 03, 04:51 PM
Bob Davis
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"Old Dude" wrote in message
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With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS
menu screen.

I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the
initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed

(GigRAID,
Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen.
Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no
problems like this.


Mine doesn't freeze at any point, but waits 'til my SCSI bios is loaded
before the bios screen will appear. This is the only external bios that I
load, and the first time I've ever had the bios screen appear after that
point.


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Old November 21st 03, 07:10 PM
mark7dc
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I think the Gigabyte book says to wait 10 minutes after you remove the
battery to clear the CMOS, or you can short the battery holder contacts
and then there is no waiting at all. Make sure to unplug the PC first. In
my book that's on pade 97.


"Old Dude" wrote in message
link.net...
With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS
menu screen.

I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the
initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed (GigRAID,
Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen.
Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no
problems like this.

I have also removed both the CMOS battery and the power supply AC cord,
waited 5 minutes, and still no change in behavior.

Does anyone have a solution to this?


"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message
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Anyone? I am still using F5, wondering if I should update.

Thanks






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Old November 21st 03, 07:15 PM
mark7dc
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I only ran the AIDA32 benchmark and I got 4550 read, 1593 write on my single
SATA drive on the Intel controller. The drive is an 80GB Seagate.

"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message ...
Did you do any benchmarks? Apparently F7 reduced about 200 points in
Sandra's memory bandwidth benchmark. I am quoting this from RC from another
thread. I wonder if F8 was suppose to solve this.


"mark7dc" wrote in message
news:QKcvb.1502$m24.643@fed1read02...
F8 is working just fine here, with both SATA and IDE drives.





  #15  
Old November 22nd 03, 12:16 AM
Michael Len
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You guys who updated successfully find any improvements? So far I see
lots of risk for no gain.

mark7dc wrote:
I only ran the AIDA32 benchmark and I got 4550 read, 1593 write on my single
SATA drive on the Intel controller. The drive is an 80GB Seagate.

"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message ...

Did you do any benchmarks? Apparently F7 reduced about 200 points in
Sandra's memory bandwidth benchmark. I am quoting this from RC from another
thread. I wonder if F8 was suppose to solve this.



"mark7dc" wrote in message
news:QKcvb.1502$m24.643@fed1read02...

F8 is working just fine here, with both SATA and IDE drives.







  #16  
Old November 23rd 03, 01:18 AM
Bob Davis
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No improvements that I can feel or otherwise discern. When entering the
BIOS the screen doesn't appear until after my SCSI bios (Adaptec AHA-2930)
finishes. I don't have any other BIOS (like ITE or SATA) loading at boot on
this machine or otherwise I assume they would load before the BIOS appears
too, as others have reported. This isn't a biggie, but don't understand it.
I guess we'll have f9 next week to fix that bug.

"Michael Len" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
You guys who updated successfully find any improvements? So far I see
lots of risk for no gain.

mark7dc wrote:
I only ran the AIDA32 benchmark and I got 4550 read, 1593 write on my

single
SATA drive on the Intel controller. The drive is an 80GB Seagate.

"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message

...

Did you do any benchmarks? Apparently F7 reduced about 200 points in
Sandra's memory bandwidth benchmark. I am quoting this from RC from

another
thread. I wonder if F8 was suppose to solve this.



"mark7dc" wrote in message
news:QKcvb.1502$m24.643@fed1read02...

F8 is working just fine here, with both SATA and IDE drives.









  #17  
Old November 23rd 03, 09:05 AM
macrog
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It looks good to me. Finally lets me set RAM to cas2. The only glitch I can
see is it locks up if you attempt to change boot device 3 in bios. Its
seems really stable in windows though. definately quicker in benchmarks.


"Bob Davis" wrote in message
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"Old Dude" wrote in message
link.net...

With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS
menu screen.

I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the
initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed

(GigRAID,
Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen.
Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no
problems like this.


Mine doesn't freeze at any point, but waits 'til my SCSI bios is loaded
before the bios screen will appear. This is the only external bios that I
load, and the first time I've ever had the bios screen appear after that
point.




  #18  
Old November 23rd 03, 01:10 PM
bdh
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Are running raid? or just ide controller
"macrog" wrote in message
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It looks good to me. Finally lets me set RAM to cas2. The only glitch I

can
see is it locks up if you attempt to change boot device 3 in bios. Its
seems really stable in windows though. definately quicker in benchmarks.


"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:Xvqvb.104$US3.72@okepread03...

"Old Dude" wrote in message
link.net...

With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the

BIOS
menu screen.

I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during

the
initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed

(GigRAID,
Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu

screen.
Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had

no
problems like this.


Mine doesn't freeze at any point, but waits 'til my SCSI bios is loaded
before the bios screen will appear. This is the only external bios that

I
load, and the first time I've ever had the bios screen appear after that
point.







  #19  
Old November 25th 03, 09:05 AM
Stephen Williams
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"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message
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Anyone? I am still using F5, wondering if I should update.

Thanks



F8 seemed great at first. I installed it after being on F6 for ages.

My setup is 2 SATA drives (no RAID) on the ICH5-R, a DVD-Combo and a DVD-RW
on the Secondary IDE channel. The extra SATA and IDE controllers are
disabled.

It seems they had finally re-arranged the BIOS so you could boot from an
ICH5R based SATA drive and still retail all standard IDE channels (like all
other 865/875 boards already could). So I changed the sata channels from
being Primary Master and Slave to Channel 2 and Channel 3 Masters, reset,
went back in to the BIOS and there they were under Hard Drive Boot Order...
and the machine booted fine.

Then for some reason after i powered it off completely and turned it back
on, the Intel RAID controller decided to enable itself, under Hard Drive
Boot Order i now had 4 drives instead of 2
It went from

Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB
Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB
Add in cards
to
Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB
SCSI 0 Seagate 120GB
Add in cards
Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB
SCSI 1 Seagate 80GB

And the computer either would hang after checking the CD-ROMs for a boot
disc, or it would blue screen before getting to the desktop. The type of
failure depended on which was set to the first boot drive.

Put the SATA drives back to Primary Master and Slave, but the Intel RAID
controller kept coming up and now was complaining about incompatible
hardware. Windows would blue screen before the desktop.

Had to revert back to F6 which was in the backup BIOS, even then no USB
devices worked in windows so i had to get a PS/2 keyboard out, remove all
USB related things from the device manager, restart and let XP find them
again, just to get my USB mouse and keyboard working.

F8 now runs all BIOSes before you can get in to the main BIOS in order to
pick up every possible boot drive. It's a good idea, but seems to me that
it's full of bugs. They should just make it like other mobos, where you can
choose from any device on the ICH5R or standard IDE channels, or SCSI and
set the SCSI boot order to Silicon Image, ITE or add on card.

Feels like i just wrote a novel!

Steve


  #20  
Old November 26th 03, 02:37 AM
Timothy Drouillard
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I have a GA-8KNXP I've been running with F6 for some time with everything
working just fine.

Then Gigabyte comes out with a new BIOS, F7, then shortly after, F8.

Now I've been in the business more years than I care to admit, and have
learned many many times, 'if it works, don't f_ck with it!'

But nooooo, something posessed me to go ahead and try F7 and F8.

Some people never learn.

In my system I have 2 WD SATA Raptors in a RAID 0 array on the SII
controller, and two Seagate 160gig SATA drives on the ICH5R controller.

under both F7 and F8, I no longer have an option to boot to the SII Raid
controller.

Both RAID controllers are set 'enabled' in the BIOS and set to RAID, the
POST sees the proper drives on the proper controllers and sees them as RAID
0 setups just fine.

In the Boot order in the BIOS, the only HD options shown are for the Intel
RAID controller and an add-in card.

no sign of the SII RAID controller at all.

tried all kinds of combinations to no avail.

Went back to F6 and all is well again.


"Stephen Williams" wrote in message
...

"Dominic Phoon" wrote in message
...
Anyone? I am still using F5, wondering if I should update.

Thanks



F8 seemed great at first. I installed it after being on F6 for ages.

My setup is 2 SATA drives (no RAID) on the ICH5-R, a DVD-Combo and a

DVD-RW
on the Secondary IDE channel. The extra SATA and IDE controllers are
disabled.

It seems they had finally re-arranged the BIOS so you could boot from an
ICH5R based SATA drive and still retail all standard IDE channels (like

all
other 865/875 boards already could). So I changed the sata channels from
being Primary Master and Slave to Channel 2 and Channel 3 Masters, reset,
went back in to the BIOS and there they were under Hard Drive Boot

Order...
and the machine booted fine.

Then for some reason after i powered it off completely and turned it back
on, the Intel RAID controller decided to enable itself, under Hard Drive
Boot Order i now had 4 drives instead of 2
It went from

Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB
Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB
Add in cards
to
Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB
SCSI 0 Seagate 120GB
Add in cards
Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB
SCSI 1 Seagate 80GB

And the computer either would hang after checking the CD-ROMs for a boot
disc, or it would blue screen before getting to the desktop. The type of
failure depended on which was set to the first boot drive.

Put the SATA drives back to Primary Master and Slave, but the Intel RAID
controller kept coming up and now was complaining about incompatible
hardware. Windows would blue screen before the desktop.

Had to revert back to F6 which was in the backup BIOS, even then no USB
devices worked in windows so i had to get a PS/2 keyboard out, remove all
USB related things from the device manager, restart and let XP find them
again, just to get my USB mouse and keyboard working.

F8 now runs all BIOSes before you can get in to the main BIOS in order to
pick up every possible boot drive. It's a good idea, but seems to me that
it's full of bugs. They should just make it like other mobos, where you

can
choose from any device on the ICH5R or standard IDE channels, or SCSI and
set the SCSI boot order to Silicon Image, ITE or add on card.

Feels like i just wrote a novel!

Steve




 




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