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ghosting my original dell drive
I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to
a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive 1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! |
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ghosting my original dell drive
On Apr 19, 1:49*am, "yirg.kenya" wrote:
I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition *to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive *I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive *1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! Ghost is usually referred to as an image...I believe you want a "clone" of your C-drive. A clone is a sector for sector copy. |
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yirg.kenya wrote:
I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive 1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! Some drive manufacturers provide a free "clone" utility (or limited version of Acronis) to clone the old drive to the new drive. Check online at the drive maker's site. Frank |
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sounds like you forgot to set the active partition on the new drive
yirg.kenya wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive 1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! |
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ghosting my original dell drive
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), "yirg.kenya"
wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive 1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! The easiest solution is to copy the entire contents of your old drive to the new drive, including all partitions. Any drive copying utility will do, but it must preserve the order of the partitions on the new drive. A suitable free utility is CopyWipe from Terabyte. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php |
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ghosting my original dell drive
On Apr 19, 3:04*pm, Tom Cole wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), "yirg.kenya" wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition *to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive *I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive *1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! The easiest solution is to copy the entire contents of your old drive to the new drive, including all partitions. Any drive copying utility will do, but it must preserve the order of the partitions on the new drive. A suitable free utility is CopyWipe from Terabyte.http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php Thanks! Tried this last. It's very slow using the windows interface. I'll try with straight dos tonight from a CD. However, it reported read errors on the SOURCE drive. So, I went into safe mode with the command prompt and tried again with the same result. It asked if I wanted to continue and I said no. I'm going to run a disk surface verification test tonight to see what's going on. |
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On Apr 19, 7:25*am, JayB wrote:
sounds like you forgot to set the active partition on the new drive yirg.kenya wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition *to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive *I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive *1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! So if I set the active partition it will work even though only one of the three partitions and the MBR was copied to the new drive (the C partition. I didn't copy the two dell hidden partitions. I'm not very knowledgeable about all this. Re booting does the MBR care only about what the active partition is? |
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its best to copy all partitions up to the operating system partition.
mainly because the boot.ini file will be pointing to boot off a specific partition number. if you change the order of the partition, then you must also change the boot.ini setting the active partition is to tell which partition gets booted. it is never optional. a lot of copy utilities do these steps for the user and most dont know what's going on behind the scenes. i always copy the small utility partition, and then the operating system, esp when just going up to a larger hard drive. that is a no brainer. the utilities that come with the new hard drive usually work well in that case. yirg.kenya wrote: On Apr 19, 7:25 am, JayB wrote: sounds like you forgot to set the active partition on the new drive yirg.kenya wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive 1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! So if I set the active partition it will work even though only one of the three partitions and the MBR was copied to the new drive (the C partition. I didn't copy the two dell hidden partitions. I'm not very knowledgeable about all this. Re booting does the MBR care only about what the active partition is? |
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ghosting my original dell drive
On Apr 20, 5:15*pm, JayB wrote:
its best to copy all partitions up to the operating system partition. mainly because the boot.ini file will be pointing to boot off a specific partition number. *if you change the order of the partition, then you must also change the boot.ini setting the active partition is to tell which partition gets booted. it is never optional. a lot of copy utilities do these steps for the user and most dont know what's going on behind the scenes. i always copy the small utility partition, and then the operating system, esp when just going up to a larger hard drive. that is a no brainer. the utilities that come with the new hard drive usually work well in that case. yirg.kenya wrote: On Apr 19, 7:25 am, JayB wrote: sounds like you forgot to set the active partition on the new drive yirg.kenya wrote: I want to ghost my original 160GB hard drive from my Dimension E510 to a new 1 TB drive which came with a "free" SATA-USB external adapter, and to use this as my internal C drive, the old drive becoming a semi- portable one. However, after ghosting the C partition *to the new drive, and asking that the MBR also be copied, the new drive won't boot either as a USB drive or when I open the case and use it (swapping sata and power supply cables) instead of the old drive. When not trying to boot from the new drive *I can see the entire contents of my old C on it w/o problem. Looking some more I see in fact that my original drive had 3 partitions: 1: dell utility, 2: C:, 3: Dell Restore. I'm wondering if the problem was that I have to ghost at least 1 and 2 or all three, otherwise the MBR will be incorrect on the new drive. My next thought was that if this were the case then maybe I should ghost my entire drive *1:1 to the new one and, once I'm able to boot from it, resize the partitions. Any help most appreciated! So if I set the active partition it will work even though only one of the three partitions and the MBR was copied to the new drive (the C partition. I didn't copy the two dell hidden partitions. I'm not very knowledgeable about all this. Re booting *does the MBR care only about what the active partition is? Thanks. Looks like I blew it then because the first thing I did to do a complete (full) format of my new drive, obviously wiping out anything that was there. Maybe I can get them from the manufacturer (samsung). |
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ghosting my original dell drive
no, i always do a full format too. just to test the hard drive and make
sure it is working. then i clone the small diag partition from the original hard drive. then i copy the operating system partition. the mfg does not have the dell diagnostic partition. yirg.kenya wrote: Thanks. Looks like I blew it then because the first thing I did to do a complete (full) format of my new drive, obviously wiping out anything that was there. Maybe I can get them from the manufacturer (samsung). |
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