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Epson cartridge nozzle film
Jeepers no one replied yet...?
Well first of all fuzzy edges on text, thats called feathering varies with printer models, could also be due to ink and paper type...do you use inkjet paper which is coated..? Looks like printing on blotting paper but not as bad eh..! Epson cartridges has a clear tape looking film stuck over the nozzles for a very good reason, when you insert the cartridge....hopefully the nozzle will peirce this film as it is pushed into the end of the cartridge and suppose help to 'air seal' the connection, like a rubber gasket if you will. Am I right folks.....? Davy |
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Epson work OK BUT never change to non genuine ink, for one you void
the warranty, "I know that from personal experience", if the print head is blocked, it's cheaper to buy a new printer, the canon Pixma ip4000 or higher series work OK. Seperate ink tanks is a must have these days. My old Epson had a good life until I got slack and bought cheap ink tanks, it lasted 1 day and a new print head was near $300, you can get a pretty good new printer for $250 or much less, an ip3000 can be had for $150. |
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Epson work OK BUT never change to non genuine ink, for one you void
the warranty, "I know that from personal experience", if the print head is blocked, it's cheaper to buy a new printer, the canon Pixma ip4000 or higher series work OK. First, in my experience I have not encountered the problem of one's warranty being voided for using third party inks from Epson, nor have I read that in any Epson warranty. If Epson can prove that whatever problem has arison was a result of the ink then that's a different story. There is a difference in the way one says this. But even further, your inference that third party ink should not be used with an Epson is incredulous from my experience with these printers for the past fourteen years. After the OEM runs out I've used nothing but third party inks with complete success on more than fifty Epson 740 and 880 printers, at our school and currently am testing third party dye-base ink on three (new-taken out of the box) C-84 printers because the Epson OEM ink previously caused five other C-84 printers to clog and become trash for the dump. If you don't know the story behind Epson's Dura-brite inks then I would suggest you do some research before recommending anyone with a printer use it. Third party ink from quality sources, equals and often exceeds what Epson has to offer. It is easy to make a generalization to catch the masses. It is far better to give facts that support those theories, and not just from one experience. Seperate ink tanks is a must have these days. Well, that's your opinion, and I can respect that. -- Jan Alter or "digisol" wrote in message . .. Epson work OK BUT never change to non genuine ink, for one you void the warranty, "I know that from personal experience", if the print head is blocked, it's cheaper to buy a new printer, the canon Pixma ip4000 or higher series work OK. Seperate ink tanks is a must have these days. My old Epson had a good life until I got slack and bought cheap ink tanks, it lasted 1 day and a new print head was near $300, you can get a pretty good new printer for $250 or much less, an ip3000 can be had for $150. |
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When I had troubles with the C62's yonks ago I was told that I shoulf
leave the clear film over the exit nozzle on the ink tanks on for that very reason, it was stressed that I should never remove them, not that I had of course, but you do tear away the yellow strip on top to uncover the breathing vent. So who's telling me porkies...? Davy |
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Jan, read the warranty, all of it, I have owned 2 Epson printers, one
was as said fitted with non genuine inks that did not agree with the genuine ink, blocking the print head, the other had an electrical malfunction out of warranty. Once sent away for warranty service I received an email stating that as they found non genuine ink in the print head no warranty would be honored, end of subject, what part of that is hard to understand ? all inks are not the same, and considering that I put the genuine ink tanks back in before returning the printer, YES, they obviously can tell the difference. Having said I have personally been there is not BS as I gain nothing by teling you that, there is a section in the warranty fine print stating that use of non genuine inks is classified as modifying the printer, which is a giant no no and thus voids the warranty. If ya don't beleive me simply call Epson. That should be fairly simple, YES they obviously can tell the difference between the ink it should have and what is actually in it. As for this clear film ? most ink tanks have a cover over the exit with a strip of thin metal tape, that is sealed so the ink tank lasts in storage, it's also sealed on the top, both need to be removed, pretty easy stuff, after all the info on how to do it is on the packaging. Some ink is rubbish, plain and simple, and while some printers can handle cheaper alternatives, others can not, the Epson is one that is very fussy with ink types, while on the other hand I still have an OLD BJC4000 that has been refilled over and over with "Quink" black fountain pen ink and it still works fine, it simply can't be killed. Buying ink cheap may help your bank balance immediately but it is not recomended for all printers, a print head costs more than a new printer, remember the Epson I had the dramas with never ran out of ink, it was just low and was replaced with Calidad ink refills, not cheap Ebay rubbish, and as was stated it lasted 1 day before the print head partially blocked up and just got worse from there to the point it printed only 10% of any given letter. Read the Epson warranty, it has not changed, but get out the glasses, it's in fine print. |
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digisol wrote:
Jan, read the warranty, all of it, I have owned 2 Epson printers, one was as said fitted with non genuine inks that did not agree with the genuine ink, blocking the print head, the other had an electrical malfunction out of warranty. Once sent away for warranty service I received an email stating that as they found non genuine ink in the print head no warranty would be honored, end of subject, what part of that is hard to understand ? all inks are not the same, and considering that I put the genuine ink tanks back in before returning the printer, YES, they obviously can tell the difference. Having said I have personally been there is not BS as I gain nothing by teling you that, there is a section in the warranty fine print stating that use of non genuine inks is classified as modifying the printer, which is a giant no no and thus voids the warranty. If ya don't beleive me simply call Epson. That should be fairly simple, YES they obviously can tell the difference between the ink it should have and what is actually in it. As for this clear film ? most ink tanks have a cover over the exit with a strip of thin metal tape, that is sealed so the ink tank lasts in storage, it's also sealed on the top, both need to be removed, pretty easy stuff, after all the info on how to do it is on the packaging. Some ink is rubbish, plain and simple, and while some printers can handle cheaper alternatives, others can not, the Epson is one that is very fussy with ink types, while on the other hand I still have an OLD BJC4000 that has been refilled over and over with "Quink" black fountain pen ink and it still works fine, it simply can't be killed. Buying ink cheap may help your bank balance immediately but it is not recomended for all printers, a print head costs more than a new printer, remember the Epson I had the dramas with never ran out of ink, it was just low and was replaced with Calidad ink refills, not cheap Ebay rubbish, and as was stated it lasted 1 day before the print head partially blocked up and just got worse from there to the point it printed only 10% of any given letter. Read the Epson warranty, it has not changed, but get out the glasses, it's in fine print. That's pure unadulterated bull**** if you reside in America. Please show us where in the Epson warranty is says explicitly, that non-Epson Inks (in those exact words) will void the warranty. No lies. Frank |
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digisol wrote:
Read it (especially the last line) and weep. Warranty Exclusions This Warranty will not apply if during the warranty period: A Product's serial number or any rating label is removed or changed in any way; A Product is repaired other than by a Service Agent; You use a Product contrary to any technical or operating environment guidelines recommended in its user guide or manual; A part in your Product, (including without limitation the waste pads), reaches the end of its service life; A Product's malfunction or failure results from: deliberate or accidental damage; neglect or modification; incorrect voltage or a power surge; or your use of any non-genuine consumables, software, parts, accessories or interfacing. OUCH ! Wrong! The Epson warranty will not cover "damage caused by non-oem products". The key wording here is ..."damaged caused by".... If you're stupid enough to let some low level phone jerk buffalo you in to believing that the non-oem ink you used damaged your Epson printer, then you deserve what you got. I've used Epson printers for over 10 yrs now and have sent three of them back under warranty, with non-oem carts still in them. Only once did I have a phone hack try to blow by me the "non-oem" corp bull**** line. My answer was,”according to your written warranty, you must prove that the non-oem product I used caused the damage”. Are you willing to dothat? If yes then you must send me the independent lab report that verifies that my use of non-oem ink caused the damage so my lawyer can review it, ok? You must also make the printer available should my lawyer want to have another lab test it to verify your results. The phone hack said…”hold on a min please”…after a short time he returned and said…"uhhh...we’ll send you a referb model".No problem. The warranty is written to scare unknowing people...like you. The major printer companies don’t ever want to go to court having to prove non-oem ink damages their printers. Because they already know it doesn’t.They know you don’t have to be a ****in rocket scientist to correctly formulate ink. It’s only water and dye/pigment for pete’ssake! Hello! It’s been around for thousands of years! More importantly, the major printers manufacturers out source their ink manufacturing. It’s called “contract manufacturing”. They also know these ink factories sell their surplus ink in bulk, to other ink suppliers, relabeled of course. Wise up, oem is a game of very high profits that pays for top exec’s huge salaries and benefits out of your pocket But not out of my pocket! Frank |
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(Davy) wrote:
quote]When I had troubles with the C62's yonks ago I was told that I shoulf leave the clear film over the exit nozzle on the ink tanks on for that very reason, it was stressed that I should never remove them, not that I had of course, but you do tear away the yellow strip on top to uncover the breathing vent. So who's telling me porkies...? Davy Probably no-one Davy. Just opinions is my guess. Tony I'd rather believe you guy's rather than Epson UK, they've seem to have told us a couple of things that folks dis-agree with.... the devils had me wasting a set of brand new ink tanks. ....by the time I'd finished on the phone a dog flea could have made a bigger puddle of what was left.! When it comes to servicing under warranty, I guess that ink business depends on the mood of the guy at the other end.... if it's a service agent probably the guy will lose nothing either way whether he hands a new printer or repairs it under warranty... the guy I would imagine would get paid just the same. So why go round a mountain when you can take a short cut through it..? This is the impression I got when he clodded mine in the trash bin...."litterally clodded...". A proper Epson guy wouldn't do such thing's would he, at least I got the impression what he thought of them without a word being said. Sorry folks a little off topic. Davy |
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Well Frank, i'll be frank, that was taken from the current Epson web
site "today" for Australian warranties given out with the extended warranty, while your Epson printers actual warranty are read in far more detail, to read that if you should use ANY non genuine ink you are noted as modifying the printer from it's standard form as sold to you, the warranty reads as given, but instead of calling me a liar, call Epson and have them tell you the same thing. As said I have personally gone through the drama of having the "authorised repairer" tell me that as I had used non genuine ink a new print head "on it's own" + labour + new ink tanks + freight added up to a tidy sum of near $500 for a $200 printer, now what part of that is hard to follow ? Try it on and see for yourself how far your warranty gets ya, and that particular printer was only 6 months old on it's third ink change and also under an extented warranty.... If anyone bothered to actually read the post, they did in fact test the inks found in the head and inks are not inks, all are different, some water based, some oil based, some special chemical compounds that are likely to be easy found, not presant, put simply Epson knows what their own ink is, it was tested and found to have used non genuine ink, voiding the warranty. |
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Read the post ! the print head was blocked (that was the fault) done
by mixing the two inks inside the print head, it had genuine ink tanks in it, returned to Emerald, our closest Epson service centre, and allbeit low the tanks were not empty. |
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