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Would you buy one of the first 6800 cards?
As in Pre-order one of the first to be available.
If not, why not? (I'm wondering if there are likely to be "teething" problems) thanks for any advice on this. |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:20:43 +0100, "+c0re-"
wrote: As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. If not, why not? (I'm wondering if there are likely to be "teething" problems) thanks for any advice on this. No. * Not interested in bragging rights * Immature drivers. * Current performance/price ratio very poor * Faster, cheaper, lower-power version in ~ 6 months time when shrunk to 110nm process to radically improve silicon chip-yield. Probably renumbered to "5900" series at that time following the precedence of the FX 5800 to FX 5900 transition. * Silicon problems may still be found, as the driver does not yet fully support the on-board video processor and is certainly not fully optimized for the updated graphics pipeline. * Daddy has not given me enough allowance. BTW, almost the same considerations apply to the Ati X800 series. I am quite happy to stay with my overclocked $175 FX5900/128 ( genuine - nonXT) until the 6800 and X800 dust has fully settled. As I said in another thread, save your shekels until the downward price curve begins to flatten out and give the money saved to a worthy charitable cause --- counts towards a tax break too............. Take a break, enjoy life - its almost Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere. A liitle fresh air and healthy exercise away from the computer can radically ease these narcissitic purchasing urges. John Lewis |
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+c0re- wrote:
As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. If not, why not? (I'm wondering if there are likely to be "teething" problems) thanks for any advice on this. Yes. (Yes to what?) Yes. (...) |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:13:35 -0400, Steven L Cox
wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:14:46 GMT, (John Lewis) wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:20:43 +0100, "+c0re-" wrote: As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. If not, why not? (I'm wondering if there are likely to be "teething" problems) thanks for any advice on this. No. * Not interested in bragging rights * Immature drivers. * Current performance/price ratio very poor * Faster, cheaper, lower-power version in ~ 6 months time when shrunk to 110nm process to radically improve silicon chip-yield. Probably renumbered to "5900" series at that time oops... meant to say "6900". Freudian slip. following the precedence of the FX 5800 to FX 5900 transition. * Silicon problems may still be found, as the driver does not yet fully support the on-board video processor and is certainly not fully optimized for the updated graphics pipeline. * Daddy has not given me enough allowance. What he said. But for all you early adopters that subsidize the industry and make it so I can get these awesome cards 6 months later under $200, I really do appreciate your stubbornness and zeal ! Keep up the good work Yeah... go for it... the more the merrier... those millions of $$ in development costs need to be paid off. John Lewis |
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Thanks for the responses
I'm not bothered about Bragging rights, Nor am I really bothered that there will be something better out in 6 months time since that always seems to be the case. I'm also not (too) bothered about the fact that I'd be paying a premium to have one first. The thing that was interesting (and does concern me) was this (I quote) Silicon problems may still be found, as the driver does not yet fully support the on-board video processor and is certainly not fully optimized for the updated graphics pipeline. My problem is that I sent back my Radeon 9800 pro because it just didn't work well enough for me, now I'm torn between getting a 5900XT and a 6800 GT. Preferably I don't want something slower than my the card I've just returned which kinda leaves me in a difficult situation, since I can't play any decent games on my system at the moment Is there any other cards I should consider? thanks again "John Lewis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:13:35 -0400, Steven L Cox wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:14:46 GMT, (John Lewis) wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:20:43 +0100, "+c0re-" wrote: As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. If not, why not? (I'm wondering if there are likely to be "teething" problems) thanks for any advice on this. No. * Not interested in bragging rights * Immature drivers. * Current performance/price ratio very poor * Faster, cheaper, lower-power version in ~ 6 months time when shrunk to 110nm process to radically improve silicon chip-yield. Probably renumbered to "5900" series at that time oops... meant to say "6900". Freudian slip. following the precedence of the FX 5800 to FX 5900 transition. * Silicon problems may still be found, as the driver does not yet fully support the on-board video processor and is certainly not fully optimized for the updated graphics pipeline. * Daddy has not given me enough allowance. What he said. But for all you early adopters that subsidize the industry and make it so I can get these awesome cards 6 months later under $200, I really do appreciate your stubbornness and zeal ! Keep up the good work Yeah... go for it... the more the merrier... those millions of $$ in development costs need to be paid off. John Lewis |
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+c0re- wrote: As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. Yes. If not, why not? Only reason not to is that argueably the x800xt is superior and costs the same money. Which is better is a toss up and depends on the individual's needs. The x800xt has the 3dc technology which will probably be a huge factor. But the 6800u does a better job of replaying HDTV files. Therefore, I'm sitting on a fence, haven't made up my mind, but I'll get one or the other, that's for sure. As to the advice "do without/wait until the price drops".... that is reasonable advice ONLY if you are buying the card as an investment and don't plan to ever use it. If you would buy it to use, then the "do without" advice makes no sense. Jeff B |
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The thing that was interesting (and does concern me) was this (I quote) Silicon problems may still be found, as the driver does not yet fully support the on-board video processor and is certainly not fully optimized for the updated graphics pipeline. I wouldn't be held hostage by the possibility that something could go wrong. Once the cards start shipping, then my take is they work until they don't work. Jeff B |
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:58:46 GMT, jeff b wrote:
+c0re- wrote: As in Pre-order one of the first to be available. Yes. If not, why not? Only reason not to is that argueably the x800xt is superior and costs the same money. Which is better is a toss up and depends on the individual's needs. The x800xt has the 3dc technology which will probably be a huge factor. But the 6800u does a better job of replaying HDTV files. Therefore, I'm sitting on a fence, haven't made up my mind, but I'll get one or the other, that's for sure. As to the advice "do without/wait until the price drops".... that is reasonable advice ONLY if you are buying the card as an investment Huh ?? Explain................. and don't plan to ever use it. If you would buy it to use, then the "do without" advice makes no sense. Funy thing, I waited until the price of my FX5900 (non-XT) was right ( $175) and am enjoying it greatly. Far Cry, Thief 3, Broken Sword, CoD, Morrowind etc... Runs my large collection of legacy DirectX games without a hitch too.... great value. Use it all the time. Overclocks nicely to 475/880 too. Previous card was a GF4 4400, which again was bought when the price curve had reasonably flattened. And a GF3 Ti200 before that...... I can afford to wait for the die shrinks on the new -gen parts --- which has to come because of yield considerations and competitive-price pressure between the 2 players. Gives time for the drivers to mature too. Your purchase will help pay off the development costs, for which action I shall be in your debt. What price bragging-rights ? Just don't wail, gnash teeth and finger-point at everything/everybody other than yourself if the gloss on your new purchase wears off rather quickly. Such is the burden of the early adopters of any new technology. John Lewis Jeff B |
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As to the advice "do without/wait until the price drops".... that is reasonable advice ONLY if you are buying the card as an investment Huh ?? Explain................. If you are buying it as an investment, then you won't be using it. So being denied the use of the card isn't a factor. Funy thing, I waited until the price of my FX5900 (non-XT) was right ( $175) and am enjoying it greatly. Right, you are enjoying it NOW, but you weren't enjoying BEFORE you bought it, in your "do without" period. I can afford to wait for the die shrinks on the new -gen parts --- which has to come because of yield considerations and competitive-price pressure between the 2 players. Yes, this is one way to go. The buy/don't buy decision comes down to not only what you are buying, but what you currently have. I have a much weaker card than you, so I have more reason to upgrade. Gives time for the drivers to mature too. Your purchase will help pay off the development costs, for which action I shall be in your debt. Right, so mail me a check. Jeff B |
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