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COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE
USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using
an adaptor. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB. BEFO Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto WD 8GB hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller card needed. Everything worked great. The larger harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion. If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB, sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE"). WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This "buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so, depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN 10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP. |
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COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE
When computing load increases, the CPU gets hotter. The symptoms you
have described are the result of a overheated CPU. The next time you restart check the CPU Temps in BIOS. It is also a possiblility that one of hard disks have a loose connection. Refix all connections - data and power. Blue screens are also a result of corrupt RAM. Use memtest (google for download location) to ascertain RAM status. REfix RAM modules. The reasons all this is happening now is because the PC is growing old and components are approaching their "end". Also the removal of the hard disk could have caused loose contacts. |
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COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE
On 24 Jul 2006 08:22:34 -0700, "
wrote: Blue screens are also a result of corrupt RAM. Use memtest (google for download location) to ascertain RAM status. REfix RAM modules. The OP didn't state their RAM configuration, but the BH6 could be problematic with all 3 memory banks populated, especially if overclocked. It's always worth trying it one slot/stick at a time to see what the problem does. Don't forget to blow all the dust out of the power supply and CPU fan if you haven't done so already. -- Neil Maxwell - I don't speak for my employer |
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On 23 Jul 2006 23:56:36 -0700, "John" wrote:
USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using an adaptor. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB. BEFO Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto WD 8GB hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller card needed. Everything worked great. The larger harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion. If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB, sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE"). WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This "buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so, depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN 10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP. Classic overheat picture. Promise eats a lot of CPU cycles, hence higher CPU load when you switched your system drive to Promise. If you ran NT/2k/XP, you would see it in Task Manager. Recipy: 1. Apply fresh thermal compound to heatsink. Clean up the dust, dirt, etc. Make sure both CPU and PSU fans are doing their job 2. Try to run with the cover off the case. If it's more stable this way, add a case fan. 3. Find and install some software that keeps CPU cool when idle - the first that comes to mind is "Waterfall" IIRC, OR: 4. Install 2k||XP - they make a better job at keeping the CPU cool. 5. Crank up the AC - it makes a difference when the system is marginal. 6. Wait until fall - when the ambient temp goes down, the cooling gets improved. 7. If all else fails, bring back your 8GB. NNN |
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COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE
Windows 9x have problems with big RAM. They reserve too much of a kernel
memory space for file cache (as much as RAM size). In the system.ini, add: [VCACHE] MaxFileCache=128 "John" wrote in message ups.com... USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using an adaptor. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB. BEFO Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto WD 8GB hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller card needed. Everything worked great. The larger harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion. If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB, sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE"). WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This "buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so, depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN 10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP. |
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COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 03:12:30 GMT, "Alexander Grigoriev"
wrote: Windows 9x have problems with big RAM. They reserve too much of a kernel memory space for file cache (as much as RAM size). In the system.ini, add: [VCACHE] MaxFileCache=128 A much easier and more effective solution is to delete Win9x and install an operating system instead. ------------- Tony Hill hilla underscore 20 at yahoo dot ca |
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