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#71
October 17th 03, 08:06 PM
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 03:58:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Bill Funk wrote in message .. . Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? What makes you say that? I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, because it's what the OP said. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. How do you clone a drive by mistake? They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. 
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#72
October 17th 03, 08:35 PM
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Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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#73
October 18th 03, 07:18 AM
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:35:11 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Bill Funk wrote in message .. . Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Is that why you go on the attack so readily? I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. From the OP's original post. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? How short a time can this be done? It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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#74
October 18th 03, 07:11 PM
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Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. From the OP's original post. Duh. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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#75
October 18th 03, 10:52 PM
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Affammuoc a chit'e' muort !
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. From the OP's original post. Duh. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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#76
October 18th 03, 11:13 PM
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:11:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Bill Funk wrote in message .. . Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again! How predictable! You lose again. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. See? Another attack. You don't know me. or my record in small claims court, but you attack, calling me a liar. What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself that he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged? Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. That's really funny. You're saying that the judge is a mind reader. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. Sure I can. I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low. If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd have been little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt wasn't proof that the system came in with the 80 Gig drive. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it, and CompUSA would have responded differently. From the OP's original post. Duh. Well, yeah, "Duh." It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. I also grasp how troubleshooting is done. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. Wanna try that again in English? If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting, and would have been charged for. You don't understand this well, do you? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Really? Why is that? Because it makes you think that you're right? Get real, and step back from your prior responses, and look at the situation in an objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up your mistakes. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Really? Who? The repair places I know about try to actually make money, and charge for their diagnostic services. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. What warranty claim? IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. Right. No one tries to charge for work done. In your world, at least. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method, but wasn't charged for. At CompUSA? Get real. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. Where? WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that, but then, you also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too. Why believe you when what you say doesn't match reality? and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Where do you get this stuff? From the same place that says diagnostic work isn't charged for? Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative. Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you? Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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john wrote in message ... Affammuoc a chit'e' muort ! Soorree, not into wog 'languages' "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. From the OP's original post. Duh. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again! Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. How predictable! How pathetic!! You lose again. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. See? Nothing to see, Funk. Another attack. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. You don't know me. or my record in small claims court, I do know that no one ever wins every time, unless they have appeared a completely trivial number of times. but you attack, calling me a liar. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. that he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged? Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Anyone with a clue can check that basic on the standard of proof required in civil actions, Funk. You cant even manage something as simple as that ? Your problem. As always. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. That's really funny. That's really pathetic. You're saying that the judge is a mind reader. Wrong. As always. I JUST said that the judge may well understand what standard of proof is required in civil matters, even if you're that terminally stupid that you can't, Funk. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. Sure I can. Pity you can't manage to work out what he actually did say and what he never said. I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't. Pathetic, really. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low. Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to manage better than that pathetically hoary old line, Funk. If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd have been little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt wasn't proof that the system came in with the 80 Gig drive. Pathetic, really. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it, More drivel. He barely even mentioned that, so you cant assume that he absolutely certainly would have mentioned that. and CompUSA would have responded differently. You dont know that either. From the OP's original post. Duh. Well, yeah, "Duh." It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that. Pity there was more than just the original post from him. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. I also grasp how troubleshooting is done. Obviously not with the sort of fault being discussed. Not a clue. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. Wanna try that again in English? Even someone as stupid as you should be able to read and comprehend that, even if you cant ever manage to grasp what standard of proof is required with civil claims. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting, and would have been charged for. You dont know that either if he paid to have the 80GB drive installed in that system and was making a warranty claim when it froze or bsoded every couple of days. You don't understand this well, do you? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Really? Yes, really. Why is that? If you dont already know why, its completely pointless trying to explain it to you. Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that the system with the fault still present would always boot fine. The problem was that it would freeze or bsod in a couple of days. Because it makes you think that you're right? Get real, and step back from your prior responses, and look at the situation in an objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up your mistakes. Pathetic, really. Have you the remotest concept of what a spectacular fool you are making of yourself, Funk ? Obviously not, even you cant actually be that stupid. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Really? Who? Most of the lower cost operations that flog hard drives. The repair places I know about What was obviously being discussed there was operations THAT SELL HARD DRIVES. Do at least TRY to keep up, Funk. try to actually make money, and charge for their diagnostic services. And plenty of operations make money flogging the hard drives and clone them for free because its so damned easy to do if you know what you are doing. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. What warranty claim? The word IF is there for a reason, Funk. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. Right. No one tries to charge for work done. In your world, at least. Now you are clearly lying. I never ever said anything like that, particularly with warranty claims. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. Fraid it does if you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days. And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world. Pathetic, really. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method, but wasn't charged for. At CompUSA? Get real. If you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days... Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either. Now you clearly are a liar. You wont be able to point to even a single example of me ever saying no one charges for this work. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. Where? Pointless pointing it out to your, you're just a pathological liar. WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that, Another lie. but then, you also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too. Another lie. Why believe you when what you say doesn't match reality? Why take any noticed of a pathological liar like you, Funk ? and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Where do you get this stuff? He clearly said that was an upgrade. From the same place that says diagnostic work isn't charged for? More of your pathological lying. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative. Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you? Pathetic, really. No one takes any notice of proven pathological liar, Funk. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:03:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Bill Funk wrote in message .. . Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again! Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. How predictable! How pathetic!! You lose again. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. See what I mean? Oh, no, you don't. THAT'S pathetic. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. See? Nothing to see, Funk. Another attack. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Again. Yet, you still don't see it. But then, you and reality aren't on handshaking terms. You don't know me. or my record in small claims court, I do know that no one ever wins every time, unless they have appeared a completely trivial number of times. What's your definition of trivial? I do my best to not have to go to court. but you attack, calling me a liar. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. And yet again. What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. It's getting boring. Spice it up a little. that he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged? Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Do you have this in your clipboard? Anyone with a clue can check that basic on the standard of proof required in civil actions, Funk. I have. The word "preponderance" is in there. You cant even manage something as simple as that ? What makes you think I don't? Exactly? Or are you fantasizing again? Your problem. As always. "As always"? Do you know me? I don't think so. As you have demonstrated here time and again, you just can't handle anything not going your way. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. That's really funny. That's really pathetic. You're saying that the judge is a mind reader. Wrong. As always. I JUST said that the judge may well understand what standard of proof is required in civil matters, even if you're that terminally stupid that you can't, Funk. What makes you think that? Exactly? Let's pretend you are actually trying to make a point, and see what you've got. Go ahead. Expound on this. Tell us all just how much you know about my forays into small claims court. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. Sure I can. Pity you can't manage to work out what he actually did say and what he never said. Explain it then. If you can without contradicting what you've said. I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't. Pathetic, really. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low. Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to manage better than that pathetically hoary old line, Funk. Thare's the stock answer when you're stuck. If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd have been little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt wasn't proof that the system came in with the 80 Gig drive. Pathetic, really. Why, exactly? Make your point instead of just writing something to take up time. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it, More drivel. He barely even mentioned that, so you cant assume that he absolutely certainly would have mentioned that. Yet you bring up a warranty, when there's absolutely no mention if it? Do you actually read what you write? and CompUSA would have responded differently. You dont know that either. It makes sense. Much more sense than what you're trying to defend. From the OP's original post. Duh. Well, yeah, "Duh." It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that. Pity there was more than just the original post from him. So go ahead, quote the relevant part that says he has proof the 80 gigger was in the system, and that the system was under warranty, and that CompUSA was doing warranty work. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. I also grasp how troubleshooting is done. Obviously not with the sort of fault being discussed. And yet you have no evidence at all about the type of work you say was done. Not a clue. More than you, it would seem. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. Wanna try that again in English? Even someone as stupid as you should be able to read and comprehend that, even if you cant ever manage to grasp what standard of proof is required with civil claims. That's amazing. You know absolutely nothing about my small claims suits, but you can say this. Further proof that you just make this up as you go along. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting, and would have been charged for. You dont know that either if he paid to have the 80GB drive installed in that system and was making a warranty claim when it froze or bsoded every couple of days. Are you actually trying to say that CompUSA installed the drive? Are you actually trying to say the system was in for warranty work? Where did you garner this information? You don't understand this well, do you? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. The standard reply when out of anything resembling a coherent answer. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Really? Yes, really. Why is that? If you dont already know why, its completely pointless trying to explain it to you. Ah, the old "I can't explain it, so I'll just call you dumb" trick. Wow. You really aren't much above a 10-year-old level of maturity, are you? Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that the system with the fault still present would always boot fine. And it couldn't be the drive itself? Do you always go fo the more time-intensive fix when you don't know what the problem is? Do you do this for money? The problem was that it would freeze or bsod in a couple of days. And yet, if it would take a couple of days to find this, you say there'd be no charge for doing the diagnostics for this. By CompUSA. Amazing. Because it makes you think that you're right? Get real, and step back from your prior responses, and look at the situation in an objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up your mistakes. Pathetic, really. Oops, hit a nerve, eh? Have you the remotest concept of what a spectacular fool you are making of yourself, Funk ? Not yet. Try explaining in detail how you have figured out that CompUSA installed the drive, and that they were doing warranty work on it. And how, desoite this, they insist the system came in with a 40 gig drive, when the OP had the receipt that showed (according to you) that they had installed the drive. Go ahead, humiliate me by showing all this. Obviously not, even you cant actually be that stupid. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Really? Who? Most of the lower cost operations that flog hard drives. The repair places I know about What was obviously being discussed there was operations THAT SELL HARD DRIVES. Do at least TRY to keep up, Funk. Keep up? CompUSA has every reason to charge for diagnostic work, than charging for the cure, too. Especially when people bring them their systems for diagnostic work. Or are you trying to saythat CompUSA is a charitable organization, who does work for free? try to actually make money, and charge for their diagnostic services. And plenty of operations make money flogging the hard drives and clone them for free because its so damned easy to do if you know what you are doing. Not CompUSA. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. What warranty claim? The word IF is there for a reason, Funk. You brought up a warranty claim, not me. Backpeddling now is useless. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. Right. No one tries to charge for work done. In your world, at least. Now you are clearly lying. Yet you say so. That's the crux of your argument here. I never ever said anything like that, particularly with warranty claims. What warranty claims? Lose sight of the ball? There's no warranty claim here, much as you'd like there to be one to account for the lack of charging for work done. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. Fraid it does if you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days. That's a big "if". It doesn't apply here. I can understand you're flogging the warranty claim, though. It's the only way you can back upo your argument. The problem is, there's no warranty involved. And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world. Pathetic, really. No, it really is! Look in the phone book! and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method, but wasn't charged for. At CompUSA? Get real. If you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days... Another "if". It would be nice if it applied here. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either. Now you clearly are a liar. Say that often enough,and even you'll believe it. You wont be able to point to even a single example of me ever saying no one charges for this work. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. Where? Pointless pointing it out to your, you're just a pathological liar. You really are a hoot! Other than a lot of "if" attempts, you've not backed up any part of your argument. WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that, Another lie. but then, you also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too. Another lie. Try again. That's your whole argument. Why believe you when what you say doesn't match reality? Why take any noticed of a pathological liar like you, Funk ? Hmmm, maybe that "pathological liar" is you, since you keep trying to sayt that "if" is a truth. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Where do you get this stuff? He clearly said that was an upgrade. Yes, he did. What he clearly did NOT say is that CompUSA did the upgrade. From the same place that says diagnostic work isn't charged for? More of your pathological lying. Try again. Thius time stick to the fascts. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative. Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you? Pathetic, really. You're right. It really is pathetic that you resort to personal attacks when you don't get your way. No one takes any notice of proven pathological liar, Funk. Prove I'm lying when I say that you've been flogging a warranty issue to explain no charging for diagnostic work done. Which they eventually decided was a dud power supply.
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Some pathological liar claiming to be Bill Funk wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Rod Speed wrote Bill Funk wrote Star wrote Ok - most of the replys I've seen were close, but it's evident that people don't fully retain the facts. Take your "proof" to the Manager first, and explain the situation. Make it clear that you are not just going to let it 'slide'. What "proof"? The OP has no proof of what drive was in the system when he took it to CompUSA. You clearly dont have a clue about how the small claims system works. Really? Yes, really. What makes you say that? Your silly stuff on 'proof' above. You clearly aint even noticed that civil claims operate on the balance of probabilitys, NOT the much more rigorous proof beyond reasonable doubt that applys with criminal matteres. Amazing that you would say that some one who's been thru the system several times doesn't know how it works. There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage to grasp those basics no matter how many times they show up before a particular system. Are you that threatened by some one who has a different reading on what's happening than you do? Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics. Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time. It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable. Is that why you go on the attack so readily? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again! Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. How predictable! How pathetic!! You lose again. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. See what I mean? Oh, no, you don't. THAT'S pathetic. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Rule of Holes. I've been in small claims many times as a busines sowner. And won each time. You clearly aint gotta clue about the standard of 'proof' required. Sure, that's why I win. Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar. See? Nothing to see, Funk. Another attack. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Again. Yet, you still don't see it. But then, you and reality aren't on handshaking terms. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. You don't know me. or my record in small claims court, I do know that no one ever wins every time, unless they have appeared a completely trivial number of times. What's your definition of trivial? I do my best to not have to go to court. but you attack, calling me a liar. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. And yet again. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. It's getting boring. Spice it up a little. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. that he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged? Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Do you have this in your clipboard? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Anyone with a clue can check that basic on the standard of proof required in civil actions, Funk. I have. The word "preponderance" is in there. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. You cant even manage something as simple as that ? What makes you think I don't? Exactly? Or are you fantasizing again? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Your problem. As always. "As always"? Do you know me? I don't think so. As you have demonstrated here time and again, you just can't handle anything not going your way. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Becaus I don't know what I'm doing. The system is designed to work in spite of pig ignorance of the basics by those that appear before it. It does work surprisingly well there. Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has. That's really funny. That's really pathetic. You're saying that the judge is a mind reader. Wrong. As always. I JUST said that the judge may well understand what standard of proof is required in civil matters, even if you're that terminally stupid that you can't, Funk. What makes you think that? Exactly? Let's pretend you are actually trying to make a point, and see what you've got. Go ahead. Expound on this. Tell us all just how much you know about my forays into small claims court. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. And when your pathological lying has been exposed for the world to laugh at on what I have actually said in this thread, you'll have to pardon us if none of us will ever be stupid enough to take you at your word on what you claim to have done in a small claims court, Funk. Thats the problem with lying, Funk. Get caught and no one with any sense ever believes you again. You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required. Sure I can. Pity you can't manage to work out what he actually did say and what he never said. Explain it then. If you can without contradicting what you've said. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't. Pathetic, really. The receipt he has is for the drive in question, which could have been put into any system. You dont even know that. I do know tha, Like hell you do. because it's what the OP said. Like hell he did. You dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof." QED, you dont know for example whether the receipt he has for the hard drive includes installation into that particular system etc. It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low. Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to manage better than that pathetically hoary old line, Funk. Thare's the stock answer when you're stuck. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd have been little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt wasn't proof that the system came in with the 80 Gig drive. Pathetic, really. Why, exactly? Make your point instead of just writing something to take up time. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. The hard drive was bought seperately from the system. Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that. While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it, More drivel. He barely even mentioned that, so you cant assume that he absolutely certainly would have mentioned that. Yet you bring up a warranty, when there's absolutely no mention if it? Do you actually read what you write? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. and CompUSA would have responded differently. You dont know that either. It makes sense. Much more sense than what you're trying to defend. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. From the OP's original post. Duh. Well, yeah, "Duh." It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that. Pity there was more than just the original post from him. So go ahead, quote the relevant part that says he has proof the 80 gigger was in the system, and that the system was under warranty, and that CompUSA was doing warranty work. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. The fact that he has a receipt does not mean the drive was in THAT system. You dont even know that. The receipt might specify what system he paid to have it installed in. See above. Completely useless. You still haven't addressed the question of why they would clone a drive and replace it without charging for it. Others have tho. No, they haven't. Corse they have. They speculated that it may have been a mistake. Not on swapping the drive they didnt. They JUST said that that may have been tried and the mistake involved not putting the original 80GB drive back when that trial swap had no effect on the freeze or bsod every couple of days. How do you clone a drive by mistake? No one ever said that. They certainly don't need to clone the drive to check to see if another drive will solve the problem, Wrong with a freeze or bsod every couple of days. Not so. Fraid so. ANY hard drive that will boot will work, Wrong. Even you should be able to grasp what an intermittent fault is about. I also grasp how troubleshooting is done. Obviously not with the sort of fault being discussed. And yet you have no evidence at all about the type of work you say was done. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Not a clue. More than you, it would seem. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around. Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when it turned out that swapping the original power supply was with another with the same design problem. Wanna try that again in English? Even someone as stupid as you should be able to read and comprehend that, even if you cant ever manage to grasp what standard of proof is required with civil claims. That's amazing. You know absolutely nothing about my small claims suits, but you can say this. Further proof that you just make this up as you go along. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. If you dont clone the drive, you havent included the OS config which might well be what was causing that. Clearly if the swap plus clone still saw the freeze or bsod every couple of days, the thing to try woudl be a clean OS install on that 40GB drive to see if it was the stuffed OS config that was causing those symptoms. But you don't need to duplicate the drive's content to see if the drive is the problem. Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so. If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting, and would have been charged for. You dont know that either if he paid to have the 80GB drive installed in that system and was making a warranty claim when it froze or bsoded every couple of days. Are you actually trying to say that CompUSA installed the drive? Are you actually trying to say the system was in for warranty work? Where did you garner this information? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. You don't understand this well, do you? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. The standard reply when out of anything resembling a coherent answer. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where the fault is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Really? Yes, really. Why is that? If you dont already know why, its completely pointless trying to explain it to you. Ah, the old "I can't explain it, so I'll just call you dumb" trick. Wow. You really aren't much above a 10-year-old level of maturity, are you? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that the system with the fault still present would always boot fine. And it couldn't be the drive itself? Do you always go fo the more time-intensive fix when you don't know what the problem is? Do you do this for money? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. The problem was that it would freeze or bsod in a couple of days. And yet, if it would take a couple of days to find this, you say there'd be no charge for doing the diagnostics for this. By CompUSA. Amazing. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Because it makes you think that you're right? Get real, and step back from your prior responses, and look at the situation in an objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up your mistakes. Pathetic, really. Oops, hit a nerve, eh? Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk. Have you the remotest concept of what a spectacular fool you are making of yourself, Funk ? Not yet. Figures. Try explaining in detail how you have figured out that CompUSA installed the drive, and that they were doing warranty work on it. And how, desoite this, they insist the system came in with a 40 gig drive, when the OP had the receipt that showed (according to you) that they had installed the drive. Go ahead, humiliate me by showing all this. Already did, Funk. Obviously not, even you cant actually be that stupid. and wouldn't, as it's a time-taking procedure, Like hell it is if you know what you are doing. And the easy check had already been done, swapping the power supply, and made no difference. Really? Yes, really. How short a time can this be done? Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone op up and go on with something else while it clones. It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using a simple max speed of the drives involved. Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that takes because its the sort of thing thats done often when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one. Quite a few operations clone for free in that situation, because its so effortless to setup, even when the margins on hard drives is so low now. Really? Who? Most of the lower cost operations that flog hard drives. The repair places I know about What was obviously being discussed there was operations THAT SELL HARD DRIVES. Do at least TRY to keep up, Funk. Keep up? CompUSA has every reason to charge for diagnostic work, than charging for the cure, too. Especially when people bring them their systems for diagnostic work. Or are you trying to saythat CompUSA is a charitable organization, who does work for free? Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. try to actually make money, and charge for their diagnostic services. And plenty of operations make money flogging the hard drives and clone them for free because its so damned easy to do if you know what you are doing. Not CompUSA. Oops! It takes more time that would be considered negligible when you're charging by time. You dont even know that they were charging by time if its a warranty claim. What warranty claim? The word IF is there for a reason, Funk. You brought up a warranty claim, not me. Backpeddling now is useless. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics. You dont even know that either. Right. No one tries to charge for work done. In your world, at least. Now you are clearly lying. Yet you say so. More of your pathological lying. There for all to see. That's the crux of your argument here. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. I never ever said anything like that, particularly with warranty claims. What warranty claims? Lose sight of the ball? There's no warranty claim here, much as you'd like there to be one to account for the lack of charging for work done. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. In the real world, it doesn't work that way. Fraid it does if you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days. That's a big "if". It doesn't apply here. I can understand you're flogging the warranty claim, though. It's the only way you can back upo your argument. The problem is, there's no warranty involved. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world. Pathetic, really. No, it really is! Look in the phone book! Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. and having a generic drive at hand is much faster, easier, and less expensive. And doesnt test whether the OS config is the problem. The clone step is a trivial part of the debugging of the problem. You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that would be checked , is it? Of course not. And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt make the problem go away, something else was tried. Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method, but wasn't charged for. At CompUSA? Get real. If you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days... Another "if". It would be nice if it applied here. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced with a known good drive for much less time? Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare. Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either. Now you clearly are a liar. Say that often enough,and even you'll believe it. Everyone can see your pathological lying about what I have actually said for themselves, Funk. You wont be able to point to even a single example of me ever saying no one charges for this work. Mistake? Why clone it in the first place? Because the power supply had already been swapped once, that made no difference. The hard drive is one possible cause of the hang or bsod every couple of days and is rather easier to try a swap than say the motherboard. Yes, that's so. But cloning isn't needed, Wrong. Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory. Obvious lie. I clearly did just that. Where? Pointless pointing it out to you, you're just a pathological liar. You really are a hoot! Other than a lot of "if" attempts, you've not backed up any part of your argument. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that, Another lie. but then, you also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too. Another lie. Try again. That's your whole argument. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Why believe you when what you say doesn't match reality? Why take any noticed of a pathological liar like you, Funk ? Hmmm, maybe that "pathological liar" is you, since you keep trying to sayt that "if" is a truth. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. and would, in any case, be charged for as part of the diagnostic, which wasn't done. Wrong again. If he had purchased the system from them, and had paid for a hard drive upgrade later, and the system was now freezing or bsoding every couple of days, its a warranty claim. Where did the OP say any of that? Did you actually *READ* the original post? "I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig." He said rather more than just that later. I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs. In fact, I know they don't. They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade, freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade. Where do you get this stuff? He clearly said that was an upgrade. Yes, he did. What he clearly did NOT say is that CompUSA did the upgrade. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. From the same place that says diagnostic work isn't charged for? More of your pathological lying. Try again. Thius time stick to the fascts. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. Come back when you've actually read the OP. Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse. Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative. Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you? Pathetic, really. You're right. It really is pathetic that you resort to personal attacks when you don't get your way. Even you should be able to bull**** and lie your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk. No one takes any notice of proven pathological liar, Funk. Prove I'm lying Everyone can see for themselves that you lied about what I said, Funk.
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