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wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 04:43:45 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message .. . George L wrote Do computer repair centers ever replace HDs with smaller ones and not tell customers? I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig. My data wasn't lost, but the drive is definitely smaler, according to the BIOS and the label on the HD. My original problem was that the computer would freeze or blue screen every other day, and changing the PS didn't help. Apparently the original PS was bad and the second one was inadequate because the repair center put in yet another, and the computer has been rock solid ever since. The repair center denies that the replaced the drive and said that they only ran a diagnostic on it. I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the repair center says that it's not enough proof. What can I do? Unless you can actually prove thatt he drive in question was actually in the box when you took it into the store, you'll be hard pressed to win any action. A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. Dunno, he clearly aint got what is listed on the original receipt anymore. What original receipt? The OP says he has a receipt forthe drive; That receipt. he didn't say the receipt was for the system. Doesnt need to be. Its the receipt for the upgrade he got done. Why would they swap drives? There's no economic incentive to do so; there's not enough involved to make it worth their while. Sure, but that doesnt mean some monkey didnt put the wrong size drive in the box when replacing the original, by accident, say when testing that possibility for the freezes when the second power supply behaved the same way as the first. But that doesn't explain the copy. Copying takes time, and these places make their money charging for such work. Not when the system freezes or bsods every other day after the upgrade. They get to wear whatever it takes to fix the the problem. Presumably he paid for the copy to the upgraded drive. I have a hard time believing the tech would replace the drive, do an image/copy, and not document it. It wouldnt be the first time with a complicated problem where the obvious swap, the power supply, didnt fix the problem, and other possibilitys were tried, and turned out to not be the problem either. Turned out to be the power supply after all and it took the third one to fix it. Presumably the first two had the same design problem. And the tech forgot to put back the original 80GB drive when it turned out to not be the cause of the freezing and bsods every other day. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:45:03 -0700, W7TI wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:38:24 -0700, wrote: A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. _________________________________________________ ________ A receipt by itself neither proves nor disproves anything. Its function is to backup what the plaintiff testifies, and the testimony is what the judge is going to give the most weight to - if it's believable. Right. The OP says, "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade)..." The receipt is for the drive, not the system, and says nothing about the drive being in the system when it was taken to ****USA. He appears to be saying that he paid for that upgrade, has the receipt to prove that, and that he took it back when it started to freeze and bsod every other day to get them to do the upgrade he paid for properly in the sense of getting a reliable system with an 80GB drive in it. |
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"jeffc" wrote:
No, you don't get it. The point is NOT how much money I have. It's how much the computer repairers have. They DON'T work for $4/hr., Huh? Yes they do, close to it. -Mike |
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Rod Speed wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:45:03 -0700, W7TI wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:38:24 -0700, wrote: A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. _________________________________________________ ________ A receipt by itself neither proves nor disproves anything. Its function is to backup what the plaintiff testifies, and the testimony is what the judge is going to give the most weight to - if it's believable. Right. The OP says, "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade)..." The receipt is for the drive, not the system, and says nothing about the drive being in the system when it was taken to ****USA. He appears to be saying that he paid for that upgrade, has the receipt to prove that, and that he took it back when it started to freeze and bsod every other day to get them to do the upgrade he paid for properly in the sense of getting a reliable system with an 80GB drive in it. When someone buys a new disk drive, it's typically considered an upgrade. Using that term in no way means that someone else did the installation for him. And even if they had, there is no proof that it was in the machine at the time he brought it to CompUSA. I would like to hear some answers from George L that others have been asking. What brand disk drive did he have in it? What's there now? Is the data exactly the same as was there before he brought it in? And did he check to make sure that it is not partitioned in Windows? BIll |
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"Bill Rubin" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:45:03 -0700, W7TI wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:38:24 -0700, wrote: A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. _________________________________________________ ________ A receipt by itself neither proves nor disproves anything. Its function is to backup what the plaintiff testifies, and the testimony is what the judge is going to give the most weight to - if it's believable. Right. The OP says, "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade)..." The receipt is for the drive, not the system, and says nothing about the drive being in the system when it was taken to ****USA. He appears to be saying that he paid for that upgrade, has the receipt to prove that, and that he took it back when it started to freeze and bsod every other day to get them to do the upgrade he paid for properly in the sense of getting a reliable system with an 80GB drive in it. When someone buys a new disk drive, it's typically considered an upgrade. That phrase is generally used when someone gets the hard drive upgraded in a system. Using that term in no way means that someone else did the installation for him. Bull****. It generally does, and the OP can say what he meant anyway. And even if they had, there is no proof that it was in the machine at the time he brought it to CompUSA. Doesnt need to be any proof. CompUSA would have to do the proving on that. I would like to hear some answers from George L that others have been asking. What brand disk drive did he have in it? What's there now? Is the data exactly the same as was there before he brought it in? And did he check to make sure that it is not partitioned in Windows? Separate issue entirely to the claims that its unlikely that the drive did get swapped. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:04:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Bill Rubin" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:45:03 -0700, W7TI wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:38:24 -0700, wrote: A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. _________________________________________________ ________ A receipt by itself neither proves nor disproves anything. Its function is to backup what the plaintiff testifies, and the testimony is what the judge is going to give the most weight to - if it's believable. Right. The OP says, "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade)..." The receipt is for the drive, not the system, and says nothing about the drive being in the system when it was taken to ****USA. He appears to be saying that he paid for that upgrade, has the receipt to prove that, and that he took it back when it started to freeze and bsod every other day to get them to do the upgrade he paid for properly in the sense of getting a reliable system with an 80GB drive in it. When someone buys a new disk drive, it's typically considered an upgrade. That phrase is generally used when someone gets the hard drive upgraded in a system. According to you, perhaps. I upgrade my systems frequently, and no one but me ever touches them. Using that term in no way means that someone else did the installation for him. Bull****. It generally does, and the OP can say what he meant anyway. And even if they had, there is no proof that it was in the machine at the time he brought it to CompUSA. Doesnt need to be any proof. CompUSA would have to do the proving on that. nope - CompUSA would be "innocent until proven guilty" - it would be up to the accuser to make his case. |
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"Bob Ward" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:04:34 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Bill Rubin" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:45:03 -0700, W7TI wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:38:24 -0700, wrote: A receipt only shows that you bought the drive, not that it was in the box when you took it in. _________________________________________________ ________ A receipt by itself neither proves nor disproves anything. Its function is to backup what the plaintiff testifies, and the testimony is what the judge is going to give the most weight to - if it's believable. Right. The OP says, "I have the receipt for the original HD (was an upgrade)..." The receipt is for the drive, not the system, and says nothing about the drive being in the system when it was taken to ****USA. He appears to be saying that he paid for that upgrade, has the receipt to prove that, and that he took it back when it started to freeze and bsod every other day to get them to do the upgrade he paid for properly in the sense of getting a reliable system with an 80GB drive in it. When someone buys a new disk drive, it's typically considered an upgrade. That phrase is generally used when someone gets the hard drive upgraded in a system. According to you, perhaps. According to many others too. I upgrade my systems frequently, and no one but me ever touches them. Clearly not the case in his case when he clearly got CompUSA to work out what was causing the freeze or bsod every day or so. Using that term in no way means that someone else did the installation for him. Bull****. It generally does, and the OP can say what he meant anyway. And even if they had, there is no proof that it was in the machine at the time he brought it to CompUSA. Doesnt need to be any proof. CompUSA would have to do the proving on that. nope - CompUSA would be "innocent until proven guilty" Nope. And civil law is on the balance of probabilitys, NOT beyond reasonable doubt. - it would be up to the accuser to make his case. Wrong. In spades with a small claims court. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:23:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: - it would be up to the accuser to make his case. Wrong. In spades with a small claims court. Care to explain this rubbish? |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:20:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Bob Ward wrote in message .. . Rod Speed wrote Bob Ward wrote Rod Speed wrote Bob Ward wrote And even if they had, there is no proof that it was in the machine at the time he brought it to CompUSA. Doesnt need to be any proof. CompUSA would have to do the proving on that. nope - CompUSA would be "innocent until proven guilty" Nope. And civil law is on the balance of probabilitys, NOT beyond reasonable doubt. - it would be up to the accuser to make his case. Wrong. In spades with a small claims court. Care to explain this rubbish? Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort. Rule of Holes. So youi can't support your statement? I thought not. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:41:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: frankg wrote in message .. . Rod Speed wrote frankg wrote Generally you're wrong Nope. but technically you can be right Corse he's right. (these links explain in better detail) .... Read the links I supplied None of those are any news to me. and they answer it correctly. Dont say anything different to what I said with FAT32 partitions over 32GB with Win2K. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with people who think they know it all. Even you should be able to bull**** your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort. I think it answers the OP's question(s). It may not satisfy the "I think I know it all / more" types but nothing would and that wasn't my intent. |
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