AGP 7800s? Or PCI-X only?

Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I already had an
X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the time (and they
were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only? Why is that?
Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP version? The
R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf

"Olaf" wrote in message
.. .
Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I already had
an X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the time (and
they were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only? Why is
that? Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP version?
The R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf


At this stage, only the PCI-E (PCI-X refers to an outdated technology, while
most people don't care - I don't - watch out for technodweebs who'll crack
it, just a friendly warning) versions of the 7800 line are available.
I haven't heard anything about nVidia releasing AGP versions.

But perhaps with enough customer demand, they may produce some. Start
whingeing to nVidia now!!!

As for ATI, I have no idea. They may manufacture some AGP, it might help to
give them a little bit of a better footing against nVidia.

Dragoncarer wrote:


"Olaf" wrote in message
.. .
Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I already had
an X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the time (and
they were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only? Why is
that? Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP version?
The R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf


At this stage, only the PCI-E (PCI-X refers to an outdated technology,

Tell Intel that it's "outdated". All of their server boards have it.
You're confusing "high end" with "outdated".

while most people don't care - I don't - watch out for technodweebs who'll
crack it, just a friendly warning

You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.

) versions of the 7800 line are
available. I haven't heard anything about nVidia releasing AGP versions.

But perhaps with enough customer demand, they may produce some. Start
whingeing to nVidia now!!!

As for ATI, I have no idea. They may manufacture some AGP, it might help
to give them a little bit of a better footing against nVidia.

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Dragoncarer wrote:


"Olaf" wrote in message
.. .
Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I already
had
an X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the time
(and
they were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only? Why is
that? Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP
version?
The R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf


At this stage, only the PCI-E (PCI-X refers to an outdated technology,

Tell Intel that it's "outdated". All of their server boards have it.
You're confusing "high end" with "outdated".

while most people don't care - I don't - watch out for technodweebs
who'll
crack it, just a friendly warning

You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.

) versions of the 7800 line are
available. I haven't heard anything about nVidia releasing AGP versions.

But perhaps with enough customer demand, they may produce some. Start
whingeing to nVidia now!!!

As for ATI, I have no idea. They may manufacture some AGP, it might help
to give them a little bit of a better footing against nVidia.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.


Is PCI-X in production? I did a search for PCI-X, and only
find references to PCI-E. I don't think there are any videocards that
are PCI-X, or any other device for that matter.

'Larry Roberts' wrote:
| Is PCI-X in production? I did a search for PCI-X, and only
| find references to PCI-E. I don't think there are any videocards that
| are PCI-X, or any other device for that matter.
_____

Gee, google gives ~691,000 hits for 'PCI-X'. You might find the PCI SIG
organization helpful, as it maintains PCI bus standards (
http://www.pcisig.com/home ) .

Phil Weldon

"Larry Roberts" wrote in message
...


You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.


Is PCI-X in production? I did a search for PCI-X, and only
find references to PCI-E. I don't think there are any videocards that
are PCI-X, or any other device for that matter.

Larry Roberts wrote:



You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.


Is PCI-X in production? I did a search for PCI-X, and only
find references to PCI-E. I don't think there are any videocards that
are PCI-X, or any other device for that matter.

Look at server boards, high end SCSI RAID controllers, multiport Ethernet
boards and the like.

It's not a technology that has been used much for video, but it is quite
common in servers.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Dragoncarer wrote:


"Olaf" wrote in message
.. .
Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I already
had
an X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the time
(and
they were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only? Why is
that? Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP
version?
The R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf


At this stage, only the PCI-E (PCI-X refers to an outdated technology,

Tell Intel that it's "outdated". All of their server boards have it.
You're confusing "high end" with "outdated".


Well I was told it was outdated. I was told wrong, evidently.

while most people don't care - I don't - watch out for technodweebs
who'll
crack it, just a friendly warning

You should care, otherwise one of these days you're going to order a PCI-X
something or other and wonder why you can't put it in your PCI Express
slot.


No, I'm not.

) versions of the 7800 line are
available. I haven't heard anything about nVidia releasing AGP versions.

But perhaps with enough customer demand, they may produce some. Start
whingeing to nVidia now!!!

As for ATI, I have no idea. They may manufacture some AGP, it might help
to give them a little bit of a better footing against nVidia.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Dragoncarer wrote:
Tell Intel that it's "outdated". All of their server boards have it.
You're confusing "high end" with "outdated".



Well I was told it was outdated. I was told wrong, evidently.

Well, it is somewhat outdated in the fact that it will most likely be
superseded by PCI Express in servers. This has already started
happening. However, PCI-X is far from gone.

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"" wrote:
Are there any?

I bought a new mobo late last year to go with an AMD 4000. I
already had an
X800 Pro, AGP, so I didnt feel like going PCI Express at the
time (and they
were brand new) and having to get a new GFX card.

Well, now I want a 7800 but it seems like they are PCI-X only?
Why is that?
Does anyone know if the next gen ATI part will have an AGP
version? The
R520 or whatever it is?

TIA
olaf

I may b wrong here but I think you might b on about the nvidia 7800
not ati as im not sure if they do one. If it is the nvidia card then
they usualy do bring out an agp version of there cards a little later
than the PCI-Express

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