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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:07:27 GMT, "John Fraser"
wrote: Good morning Darth; It had its moments. So does an ex wife or girlfriend So does a wife, sunny days and hurricanes. heheh... and I'm lusting over an 18yr old girl at the moment... Very cute, plays games so she wants to kick my ass on Counter Strike. Its been a while since I had a women under 30. Anyways, the CLI on the Amiga is far more advanced than the COMMAND shell for Windows95~XP... Some features by default: 1 - You typed in full names for directorys. non of this stupid CD Progra~1 (Program Files). That was an unfortunate compromise Win95+ when using an 8.3 CLI. As I said, all relationship to MS-DOS should have been dropped. Agreed, but then Win95 wouldn't have been accepted. You should understand that THOUSANDS of business REQUIRE that MS-DOS ability because of the crappy programing standards that M$ created with M$ DOS to begin with. Remember, M$ DOS is a *PIRATED* version of CP/M that they paid $25,000 or $50,000 from some guy and CP/M is an 8bit OS version for PCs thats weakly based off of the Unix CLI. The CLI in the modern WindowsXP is *SUBSTANDARD* to 1995's Amigas. 2 - The cursor UP and DOWN keys would cycle through the commands youve typed. (MSDos had this an optional command you had to type in first) 5 - There was a SCROLL bar for the CLU window... Ever wish you could have read the text that flew up the screen? Oh yeah, you can PAUSE - how "limiting"... Handing for reading those pages of HELP comand text. If you knew you needed it. Otherwise F3 plus "/pause" plus a deliberate assortment command "/en", depending on how you wanted thems sorted. And start DOSKEY for the system to remember your key commands. Point is, out of the box - 1995 Amiga CLI is still more advanced and usable than even today's WindowsXP command prompt. Its like comparing Windows XP to Windows 3.1, okay? When I HAD to use MS-DOS6.x/Windows3.1 (Afterall C=/Amiga died in 1993), it was HORRIBLE. It was SUCH A DOWNGRADE in computer usage. Everytime I use Command Prompt, I'm reminded how crappy it is. PS: I had masterd MS-DOS in technical school about a year or so before I bought my first Amiga... but I had some understanding of CP/M before then. Considering your from the UK... Amiga was far more successful there, than the USA, it should have been a bit more familer... CommodoreUSA brought down CommodoreUK. The UK (HMS) uses the designation, as does Australia (HMAS). I'm from Nova Scotia, Canada. The Canadian warships were given the designation Her Majesty's Canadian Ships (HMCS)in 1910. The term today is a carryover from the RCN when the three services were combined to form the Canadian Forces 1968. I guess it was allowed in order to keep the Army from getting confused. hehhe... about the confusion. Okay, I'm sorry about that... But I thought there wasn't Royalty in Canada... much less Australia. -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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Good morning Darth;
"Darthy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:07:27 GMT, "John Fraser" wrote: Good morning Darth; It had its moments. So does an ex wife or girlfriend So does a wife, sunny days and hurricanes. heheh... and I'm lusting over an 18yr old girl at the moment... Very cute, plays games so she wants to kick my ass on Counter Strike. Its been a while since I had a women under 30. Anyways, the CLI on the Amiga is far more advanced than the COMMAND shell for Windows95~XP... Some features by default: 1 - You typed in full names for directorys. non of this stupid CD Progra~1 (Program Files). That was an unfortunate compromise Win95+ when using an 8.3 CLI. As I said, all relationship to MS-DOS should have been dropped. Agreed, but then Win95 wouldn't have been accepted. You should understand that THOUSANDS of business REQUIRE that MS-DOS ability because of the crappy programing standards that M$ created with M$ DOS to begin with. Remember, M$ DOS is a *PIRATED* version of CP/M that they paid $25,000 or $50,000 from some guy and CP/M is an 8bit OS version for PCs thats weakly based off of the Unix CLI. The CLI in the modern WindowsXP is *SUBSTANDARD* to 1995's Amigas. 2 - The cursor UP and DOWN keys would cycle through the commands youve typed. (MSDos had this an optional command you had to type in first) 5 - There was a SCROLL bar for the CLU window... Ever wish you could have read the text that flew up the screen? Oh yeah, you can PAUSE - how "limiting"... Handing for reading those pages of HELP comand text. If you knew you needed it. Otherwise F3 plus "/pause" plus a deliberate assortment command "/en", depending on how you wanted thems sorted. And start DOSKEY for the system to remember your key commands. Point is, out of the box - 1995 Amiga CLI is still more advanced and usable than even today's WindowsXP command prompt. Its like comparing Windows XP to Windows 3.1, okay? When I HAD to use MS-DOS6.x/Windows3.1 (Afterall C=/Amiga died in 1993), it was HORRIBLE. It was SUCH A DOWNGRADE in computer usage. Everytime I use Command Prompt, I'm reminded how crappy it is. PS: I had masterd MS-DOS in technical school about a year or so before I bought my first Amiga... but I had some understanding of CP/M before then. Considering your from the UK... Amiga was far more successful there, than the USA, it should have been a bit more familer... CommodoreUSA brought down CommodoreUK. The UK (HMS) uses the designation, as does Australia (HMAS). I'm from Nova Scotia, Canada. The Canadian warships were given the designation Her Majesty's Canadian Ships (HMCS)in 1910. The term today is a carryover from the RCN when the three services were combined to form the Canadian Forces 1968. I guess it was allowed in order to keep the Army from getting confused. hehhe... about the confusion. Okay, I'm sorry about that... But I thought there wasn't Royalty in Canada... much less Australia. It happens. There isn't any royalty in the direct sense. Australia dropped the monarchy from Government two years ago. Canada's system of government was intended from the beginning to be independent in nature, yet still retain elements of a monarchy. The Governor General is the Queen's representative for Parliament, more of a figurehead than a necessity. Today, the word Royal is a carryover from when the word actually meant something. The province of Quebec? Well, that's another issue. Cheers, John |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:48:06 GMT
"John Fraser" wrote: Good morning Darth; "Darthy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:07:27 GMT, "John Fraser" wrote: Good morning Darth; It had its moments. So does an ex wife or girlfriend So does a wife, sunny days and hurricanes. heheh... and I'm lusting over an 18yr old girl at the moment... Very cute, plays games so she wants to kick my ass on Counter Strike. Its been a while since I had a women under 30. Anyways, the CLI on the Amiga is far more advanced than the COMMAND shell for Windows95~XP... Some features by default: 1 - You typed in full names for directorys. non of this stupid CD Progra~1 (Program Files). That was an unfortunate compromise Win95+ when using an 8.3 CLI. As I said, all relationship to MS-DOS should have been dropped. Agreed, but then Win95 wouldn't have been accepted. You should understand that THOUSANDS of business REQUIRE that MS-DOS ability because of the crappy programing standards that M$ created with M$ DOS to begin with. Remember, M$ DOS is a *PIRATED* version of CP/M That's interesting. How did they get the source code and if it contained Digital Research code then why did Digital Research in conjunction with the courts not destroy Microsoft? And how did he manage to get the source for CPM/86 anyway given that at the time Digital Research had not yet written it? And why did Digital Research have so much trouble making a working MS-DOS clone if MS-DOS was pirated from their own code? that they paid $25,000 or $50,000 from some guy and CP/M is an 8bit OS version for PCs thats weakly based off of the Unix CLI. Actually, CP/M is an OS for machines that predate the IBM PC and use a different processor, and one could argue equally well that it's "weakly based off the CMS command line processor" or "weakly based off the VMS command line processor" or "weakly based off any other command line processor"--the only real resemblance it has to Unix is that they are both operating systems and they both have command lines. In any case, I don't see what the hell difference it makes at this point. The CLI in the modern WindowsXP is *SUBSTANDARD* to 1995's Amigas. 2 - The cursor UP and DOWN keys would cycle through the commands youve typed. (MSDos had this an optional command you had to type in first) 5 - There was a SCROLL bar for the CLU window... Ever wish you could have read the text that flew up the screen? Oh yeah, you can PAUSE - how "limiting"... Handing for reading those pages of HELP comand text. If you knew you needed it. Otherwise F3 plus "/pause" plus a deliberate assortment command "/en", depending on how you wanted thems sorted. And start DOSKEY for the system to remember your key commands. Point is, out of the box - 1995 Amiga CLI is still more advanced and usable than even today's WindowsXP command prompt. Uh, what are you on about? XP does not need DOSKEY, it has a scroll bar for the command window, pressing the up and down keys get you the commands you have typed. If those are your objections then you've clearly never used XP or 2K. Or perhaps you are not using "CMD", which is the Windows NT and later native command processor and are instead using "COMMAND", which exists primarily for backward compatibility with MS-DOS batch files? If so, try "CMD" before you criticize. Its like comparing Windows XP to Windows 3.1, okay? When I HAD to use MS-DOS6.x/Windows3.1 (Afterall C=/Amiga died in 1993), it was HORRIBLE. It was SUCH A DOWNGRADE in computer usage. Everytime I use Command Prompt, I'm reminded how crappy it is. PS: I had masterd MS-DOS in technical school about a year or so before I bought my first Amiga... but I had some understanding of CP/M before then. Considering your from the UK... Amiga was far more successful there, than the USA, it should have been a bit more familer... CommodoreUSA brought down CommodoreUK. The UK (HMS) uses the designation, as does Australia (HMAS). I'm from Nova Scotia, Canada. The Canadian warships were given the designation Her Majesty's Canadian Ships (HMCS)in 1910. The term today is a carryover from the RCN when the three services were combined to form the Canadian Forces 1968. I guess it was allowed in order to keep the Army from getting confused. hehhe... about the confusion. Okay, I'm sorry about that... But I thought there wasn't Royalty in Canada... much less Australia. It happens. There isn't any royalty in the direct sense. Australia dropped the monarchy from Government two years ago. Canada's system of government was intended from the beginning to be independent in nature, yet still retain elements of a monarchy. The Governor General is the Queen's representative for Parliament, more of a figurehead than a necessity. Today, the word Royal is a carryover from when the word actually meant something. The province of Quebec? Well, that's another issue. Cheers, John -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:48:06 GMT, "John Fraser"
wrote: Good morning Darth; hehhe... about the confusion. Okay, I'm sorry about that... But I thought there wasn't Royalty in Canada... much less Australia. It happens. There isn't any royalty in the direct sense. Australia dropped the monarchy from Government two years ago. Canada's system of government was intended from the beginning to be independent in nature, yet still retain elements of a monarchy. The Governor General is the Queen's representative for Parliament, more of a figurehead than a necessity. Today, the word Royal is a carryover from when the word actually meant something. The province of Quebec? Well, that's another issue. I'm sure if you ask, our dear president would gladly nuke the French right out of Canada. -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:46:46 -0500, "J.Clarke"
wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:48:06 GMT "John Fraser" wrote: Agreed, but then Win95 wouldn't have been accepted. You should understand that THOUSANDS of business REQUIRE that MS-DOS ability because of the crappy programing standards that M$ created with M$ DOS to begin with. Remember, M$ DOS is a *PIRATED* version of CP/M That's interesting. How did they get the source code and if it contained Digital Research code then why did Digital Research in conjunction with the courts not destroy Microsoft? And how did he Its called reverse engineering? The Ruskies did it, and Compaq did it to IBM. Even Linux is a reverese engineered version of Unix. manage to get the source for CPM/86 anyway given that at the time Digital Research had not yet written it? And why did Digital Research Learn a bit more about computer history. M$ bought the re-engineered code and re-worked it for IBM. M$ didn't create M$ Word, Front page, Excel, Internet Explorer and other apps... all bought from some small company. that they paid $25,000 or $50,000 from some guy and CP/M is an 8bit OS version for PCs thats weakly based off of the Unix CLI. Actually, CP/M is an OS for machines that predate the IBM PC and use a Did I say it didn't? Obviously ITS older than the IBM PC. PS: Learn to EDIT out parts of the QUOTE that have nothing to do with what you're responding to. 90% of your quoted message was a waste of space. -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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