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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
I bought a used 7600GT AGP card (BIG brand) to be used in a second
system thrown together from left-over parts. The config is - Sempron 64 2500+ S754 Asrock K8Upgrade-VM800 (VIA chipset) 384MB DDR333 (PC2700) 200GB SATA HDD DVD-R/W 450W PSU - not one of the big-name brands, but it has served me well with a slightly higher configuration - A64 3000+, 1GB, 7600GT PCI-E, 3xHDDs, DVD-R/W. WinXP Pro SP2 The 7600GT AGP card displays normally in Safe Mode and in normal mode with the basic Windows driver. Trying to install nVidia driver 81.85 brings up a report that it is not compatible (same with a 7600GT PCI-E card in another computer). 91.31 and 91.47 invokes the same error report, but work fine with the PCI-E version. When I try to install 162.18 or 169.21, it pauses half-way through (as it normally does with successful installations), but pauses for a loooong time and the screen then blanks out permanently. The monitor (CRT) LED stays green and I can't get it to shut down even with a momentary push of the power button. On restarting, the Windows logo appears for a few seconds, then the display corrupts and crashes. The only way get it to boot again is to go into Safe Mode and uninstall the driver. I can install 162.18 and 169.21 in Safe Mode, but it behaves the same way as described in the above para on rebooting. I tried the card on another machine (Athlon XP 2000+, Biostar M7NCG-400 mobo) with exactly the same result. I uninstall the driver in Safe Mode between each attempt. A 6600GT card works fine with both motherboards. Unless there's some installation trick that has to be done with this card, it looks as if it's defective. The previous owner gave me a 7-day guarantee, but I want to be sure before I send it back. I once had a lot of problems installing a GF4200 Ti on another VIA mobo until I figured out the exact installation process needed : The VIA AGP port driver had to be installed and then uninstalled; then nVidia driver 41 or earlier had to be installed before installing a newer version. I was wondering if there was some similar requirement for this 7600GT AGP card before I conclude definitely that it is defective and send it back. Any comments or suggestions please ? |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
wrote in message ... I bought a used 7600GT AGP card (BIG brand) to be used in a second system thrown together from left-over parts. The config is - Sempron 64 2500+ S754 Asrock K8Upgrade-VM800 (VIA chipset) 384MB DDR333 (PC2700) 200GB SATA HDD DVD-R/W 450W PSU - not one of the big-name brands, but it has served me well with a slightly higher configuration - A64 3000+, 1GB, 7600GT PCI-E, 3xHDDs, DVD-R/W. WinXP Pro SP2 Based on your description of the hardware, and what you did and how it functioned and what happened, I would have to say that it's not a physical problem with the actual 7600GT card, but more likely a mainboard, GART or m/b chipset issue. VIA chipsets are notorious for glitchy issues. They mix and match chips from different vendors and an have lots of issues in comparison to others. It's not impossible the card may have an issue, but I realy doubt it in this case given your description and actions. |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
On May 10, 8:41*pm, "Augustus" wrote:
wrote in message ... I bought a used 7600GT AGP card (BIG brand) to be used in a second system thrown together from left-over parts. The config is - Sempron 64 2500+ S754 Asrock K8Upgrade-VM800 (VIA chipset) 384MB DDR333 (PC2700) 200GB SATA HDD DVD-R/W 450W PSU - not one of the big-name brands, but it has served me well with a slightly higher configuration - A64 3000+, 1GB, 7600GT PCI-E, 3xHDDs, DVD-R/W. WinXP Pro SP2 Based on your description of the hardware, and what you did and how it functioned and what happened, I would have to say that it's not a physical problem with the actual 7600GT card, but more likely a mainboard, GART or m/b chipset issue. VIA chipsets are notorious for glitchy issues. They mix and match chips from different vendors and an have lots of issues in comparison to others. It's not impossible *the card may have an issue, but I realy doubt it in this case given your description and actions. Thanks for the reply. I have this gut feeling (which is seldom wrong) that it's as you say - that the card itself is not defective, but I'm running out of ideas. You might have missed the part where I said that I tried the card on another mobo, a Biostar M7NCG-400. This one uses the NVidia nForce2 chipset. I used this board as my main workhorse before I upgraded to 64-bit some time ago and didn't have any problems. I installed the VIA Hyperion driver, I tried to install the card with WinXP SP1, SP2 and even SP3. I have Ghost backups of various installations of WinXP, so it wasn't too time-consuming to try them out. |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
On May 10, 10:25*pm, "Mr.E Solved!" wrote:
wrote: I bought a used 7600GT AGP card (BIG brand) to be used in a second system thrown together from left-over parts. The config is - Sempron 64 2500+ S754 Asrock K8Upgrade-VM800 (VIA chipset) 384MB DDR333 (PC2700) 200GB SATA HDD DVD-R/W 450W PSU - not one of the big-name brands, but it has served me well with a slightly higher configuration - A64 3000+, 1GB, 7600GT PCI-E, 3xHDDs, DVD-R/W. WinXP Pro SP2 The 7600GT AGP card displays normally in Safe Mode and in normal mode with the basic Windows driver. Trying to install nVidia driver 81.85 brings up a report that it is not compatible (same with a 7600GT PCI-E card in another computer). 91.31 and 91.47 invokes the same error report, but work fine with the PCI-E version. When I try to install 162.18 or 169.21, it pauses half-way through (as it normally does with successful installations), but pauses for a loooong time and the screen then blanks out permanently. The monitor (CRT) LED stays green and I can't get it to shut down even with a momentary push of the power button. On restarting, the Windows logo appears for a few seconds, then the display corrupts and crashes. The only way get it to boot again is to go into Safe Mode and uninstall the driver. I can install 162.18 and 169.21 in Safe Mode, but it behaves the same way as described in the above para on rebooting. I tried the card on another machine (Athlon XP 2000+, Biostar M7NCG-400 mobo) with exactly the same result. I uninstall the driver in Safe Mode between each attempt. A 6600GT card works fine with both motherboards. Unless there's some installation trick that has to be done with this card, it looks as if it's defective. The previous owner gave me a 7-day guarantee, but I want to be sure before I send it back. I once had a lot of problems installing a GF4200 Ti on another VIA mobo until I figured out the exact installation process needed : The VIA AGP port driver had to be installed and then uninstalled; then nVidia driver 41 or earlier had to be installed before installing a newer version. I was wondering if there was some similar requirement for this 7600GT AGP card before I conclude definitely that it is defective and send it back. Any comments or suggestions please ? That was a thorough report and easy to follow, so the omission of you re-installing your VIA chipset drivers is notable and would give you the symptoms you describe. Also, there might be a PCI-AGP bridge chip on that card, which was done to simply (!) manufacture. The card could actually be a PCIe card and the bridge chip translates for the AGP slot and that might have BIOS/mobo compatibility issues, but re-install those chipset drivers first especially the GART.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the response. I'm fairly sure I installed, uninstalled and re-installed the VIA chipset drivers. But I've tried so many things that I can't be sure when and in what order (relative to other things) I did them. I'll try again first chance I get and report back here. |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
I installed the VIA Hyperion driver, I tried to install the card
with WinXP SP1, SP2 and even SP3. I have Ghost backups of various installations of WinXP, so it wasn't too time-consuming to try them out. I strongly suspect an incompatability with the VIA chipset drivers and the various nVidia drivers you have tried. Which version of the chipset drivers are you using, the 5.1's? |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
On May 11, 6:37*am, "Augustus" wrote:
I installed the VIA Hyperion driver, I tried to install the card with WinXP SP1, SP2 and even SP3. I have Ghost backups of various installations of WinXP, so it wasn't too time-consuming to try them out. I strongly suspect an incompatability with the VIA chipset drivers and the various nVidia drivers you have tried. Which version of the chipset drivers are you using, the 5.1's? I first tried it with the "VIA Service Pack 4.49" on the mobo's CD installed. Then 5.10a downloaded from the VIA site some time ago. I have not yet tried 5.17 d/led more recently. |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
Couple of ideas. With the default Windows driver running, reinstall Direct X
9.0c. Can you lay your hands on another AGP card? I'd be curious to see if an ATI card would give the same issues. |
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7600GT AGP : Is this card defective ?
On May 11, 8:09*pm, "Augustus" wrote:
Couple of ideas. With the default Windows driver running, reinstall Direct X 9.0c. Can you lay your hands on another AGP card? I'd be curious to see if an ATI card would give the same issues. The only ATI card I have with me is an ancient Radeon 7000. And, as I said in my initial post, a 6600GT card works without a hitch in the two mobos. So I'm inclined to think it's not a basic VIA- nVidia issue. If it's an incompatibility issue at all, it's more likely to be something to do with this card - GPU or AGP-PCI-E bridge as suggested by Mr.E Solved! |
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