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Temor wrote:
Firstly I am sorry if this has been asked/highlighted before, but trying to trawl through this NG has me more confused. I am an Nvidia to ATI convert, a noob, a video virgin, etc ,etc. But with the money I had I bought an OEM (powercolor boxed and badged) 9800Pro 128MB 256bit card (product number R98-PC3). It has an R350 GPU on it...now here is my query... Powercolor states that the core speed is 380MHZ and the memory speed is 337Mhz x2. So I guess it is commonly referred to as a 380/674 card?! But running Everest, that program states that the "GPU clock" is running at 324MHz and that the "Memory Bus Real Clock" is 290MHz with and "effective bandwidth" of 580MHz. So I read that as my card running at 324/580...way less than the 380/674 that Powercolor state. Everest also states that the "ramdac clock" is 400MHz but I don't know if that is relevant here. I bought this because of its price being affordable, but have I bought a "lemon"? Or is the the way the R350 runs? Is it an underclocked reject? It seems a damn sight better than my FX5600XT, so I don't think I have lost anything here, but as with us all I am hoping that I haven't been suckered...again. TIA Will give you the figures from my Sapphire 9800 Pro and Everest: GPU clock 378 Memory Bus Properties Real Clock 338 Effective clock 676 Looks like you may have cheaper memory than mine ... this may cause the differences. Not sure why the GPU clock is down that is a bit strange. regards @ndrew |
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Powercolor 9800Pro 128MB 256bit noob question
Firstly I am sorry if this has been asked/highlighted before, but trying to
trawl through this NG has me more confused. I am an Nvidia to ATI convert, a noob, a video virgin, etc ,etc. But with the money I had I bought an OEM (powercolor boxed and badged) 9800Pro 128MB 256bit card (product number R98-PC3). It has an R350 GPU on it...now here is my query... Powercolor states that the core speed is 380MHZ and the memory speed is 337Mhz x2. So I guess it is commonly referred to as a 380/674 card?! But running Everest, that program states that the "GPU clock" is running at 324MHz and that the "Memory Bus Real Clock" is 290MHz with and "effective bandwidth" of 580MHz. So I read that as my card running at 324/580...way less than the 380/674 that Powercolor state. Everest also states that the "ramdac clock" is 400MHz but I don't know if that is relevant here. I bought this because of its price being affordable, but have I bought a "lemon"? Or is the the way the R350 runs? Is it an underclocked reject? It seems a damn sight better than my FX5600XT, so I don't think I have lost anything here, but as with us all I am hoping that I haven't been suckered...again. TIA temor --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 |
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Well, there's something wrong for sure. You may have been shipped the wrong
card. Your stock clock speeds, 325 core, and 290 memory are exactly what they should be if you have a 9800SE. If I were you I'd open Everest again and take a look how many pixel pipelines you've got. A 9800 Pro and a 9800 should have 8 pipelines. A 9800SE will have 4. There's such a thing as a 256bit 9800SE. I suspect this is what you have. The Powercolor 9800SE matching yours has a part number of R98-SC3. http://www.power-color.com/r98-sc3.htm |
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Shawk wrote:
Same figures I have here for my Sapphire 9800 Pro.(376/676). Does Everest actually state it IS 256bit? Yes under the memory stats ... bus width 256 regards @ndrew |
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"@ndrew" andrewratinternodedotondotnet wrote in message ... Temor wrote: Firstly I am sorry if this has been asked/highlighted before, but trying to trawl through this NG has me more confused. I am an Nvidia to ATI convert, a noob, a video virgin, etc ,etc. But with the money I had I bought an OEM (powercolor boxed and badged) 9800Pro 128MB 256bit card (product number R98-PC3). It has an R350 GPU on it...now here is my query... Powercolor states that the core speed is 380MHZ and the memory speed is 337Mhz x2. So I guess it is commonly referred to as a 380/674 card?! But running Everest, that program states that the "GPU clock" is running at 324MHz and that the "Memory Bus Real Clock" is 290MHz with and "effective bandwidth" of 580MHz. So I read that as my card running at 324/580...way less than the 380/674 that Powercolor state. Everest also states that the "ramdac clock" is 400MHz but I don't know if that is relevant here. I bought this because of its price being affordable, but have I bought a "lemon"? Or is the the way the R350 runs? Is it an underclocked reject? It seems a damn sight better than my FX5600XT, so I don't think I have lost anything here, but as with us all I am hoping that I haven't been suckered...again. TIA Will give you the figures from my Sapphire 9800 Pro and Everest: GPU clock 378 Memory Bus Properties Real Clock 338 Effective clock 676 Looks like you may have cheaper memory than mine ... this may cause the differences. Not sure why the GPU clock is down that is a bit strange. regards @ndrew Same figures I have here for my Sapphire 9800 Pro.(376/676). Does Everest actually state it IS 256bit? |
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Yep.... here is the report from Everest...
Graphics Processor Properties: Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (R350) GPU Code Name R350 PCI Device 1002 / 4E48 Transistors 117 million Process Technology 0.15u Bus Type AGP Memory Size 128 MB GPU Clock 324 MHz RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz Pixel Pipelines 8 TMU Per Pipeline 1 Vertex Shaders 4 (v2.0) Pixel Shaders 1 (v2.0) DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0 Pixel Fillrate 2592 MPixel/s Texel Fillrate 2592 MTexel/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type DDR Bus Width 256-bit Real Clock 290 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 580 MHz Bandwidth 18560 MB/s regards Temor PS Its an R98-PC3 not R98-SC3 regards temor "Augustus" wrote in message news:UK_Ic.51508$eO.1011@edtnps89... Well, there's something wrong for sure. You may have been shipped the wrong card. Your stock clock speeds, 325 core, and 290 memory are exactly what they should be if you have a 9800SE. If I were you I'd open Everest again and take a look how many pixel pipelines you've got. A 9800 Pro and a 9800 should have 8 pipelines. A 9800SE will have 4. There's such a thing as a 256bit 9800SE. I suspect this is what you have. The Powercolor 9800SE matching yours has a part number of R98-SC3. http://www.power-color.com/r98-sc3.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 |
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Yep... see report on other reply. Also the 4 memory chips are arranged in an
L shape around the heatsink.... a dead giveaway...or so I believe !!!! regards temor "Shawk" wrote in message ... "@ndrew" andrewratinternodedotondotnet wrote in message ... Temor wrote: Firstly I am sorry if this has been asked/highlighted before, but trying to trawl through this NG has me more confused. I am an Nvidia to ATI convert, a noob, a video virgin, etc ,etc. But with the money I had I bought an OEM (powercolor boxed and badged) 9800Pro 128MB 256bit card (product number R98-PC3). It has an R350 GPU on it...now here is my query... Powercolor states that the core speed is 380MHZ and the memory speed is 337Mhz x2. So I guess it is commonly referred to as a 380/674 card?! But running Everest, that program states that the "GPU clock" is running at 324MHz and that the "Memory Bus Real Clock" is 290MHz with and "effective bandwidth" of 580MHz. So I read that as my card running at 324/580...way less than the 380/674 that Powercolor state. Everest also states that the "ramdac clock" is 400MHz but I don't know if that is relevant here. I bought this because of its price being affordable, but have I bought a "lemon"? Or is the the way the R350 runs? Is it an underclocked reject? It seems a damn sight better than my FX5600XT, so I don't think I have lost anything here, but as with us all I am hoping that I haven't been suckered...again. TIA Will give you the figures from my Sapphire 9800 Pro and Everest: GPU clock 378 Memory Bus Properties Real Clock 338 Effective clock 676 Looks like you may have cheaper memory than mine ... this may cause the differences. Not sure why the GPU clock is down that is a bit strange. regards @ndrew Same figures I have here for my Sapphire 9800 Pro.(376/676). Does Everest actually state it IS 256bit? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 |
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I just checked on the product comparison on the ATI website for 9800 range.
It looks as though, near as damn it I have a bog-standard 9800. Methinks I have been conned. The UK supplier commented that they might have been shipped a load of 9800LE by mistake, but I always thought LE meant Lite Edition i.e. no extra, brown box, etc. But mine came in a powercolor box, with a PRO sticker on it with extra games, WinDVD, and cables. It gets curiouser and curiouser. "Temor" wrote in message .. . Firstly I am sorry if this has been asked/highlighted before, but trying to trawl through this NG has me more confused. I am an Nvidia to ATI convert, a noob, a video virgin, etc ,etc. But with the money I had I bought an OEM (powercolor boxed and badged) 9800Pro 128MB 256bit card (product number R98-PC3). It has an R350 GPU on it...now here is my query... Powercolor states that the core speed is 380MHZ and the memory speed is 337Mhz x2. So I guess it is commonly referred to as a 380/674 card?! But running Everest, that program states that the "GPU clock" is running at 324MHz and that the "Memory Bus Real Clock" is 290MHz with and "effective bandwidth" of 580MHz. So I read that as my card running at 324/580...way less than the 380/674 that Powercolor state. Everest also states that the "ramdac clock" is 400MHz but I don't know if that is relevant here. I bought this because of its price being affordable, but have I bought a "lemon"? Or is the the way the R350 runs? Is it an underclocked reject? It seems a damn sight better than my FX5600XT, so I don't think I have lost anything here, but as with us all I am hoping that I haven't been suckered...again. TIA temor --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 |
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"Temor" wrote in message .. . I just checked on the product comparison on the ATI website for 9800 range. It looks as though, near as damn it I have a bog-standard 9800. Methinks I have been conned. The UK supplier commented that they might have been shipped a load of 9800LE by mistake, but I always thought LE meant Lite Edition i.e. no extra, brown box, etc. But mine came in a powercolor box, with a PRO sticker on it with extra games, WinDVD, and cables. It gets curiouser and curiouser. Dont know what LE means but mine was a Lite Retail and there was no LE in the title. Mine had no bundled games but otherwise its a full-blooded 9800Pro. Your UK supplier - did they offer to change it? Shaun |
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Sorry Shawk I hit reply instead of Reply To Group !!!
Yeah....no problem there apart from the inconvenience. They don't have anything similar at the same price unless I go down to a 128bit 9800PRO. Going elsewhere at the moment I wont get anything similar for the price (£123)... thought the price was too good to be true. temor "Shawk" wrote in message ... "Temor" wrote in message .. . I just checked on the product comparison on the ATI website for 9800 range. It looks as though, near as damn it I have a bog-standard 9800. Methinks I have been conned. The UK supplier commented that they might have been shipped a load of 9800LE by mistake, but I always thought LE meant Lite Edition i.e. no extra, brown box, etc. But mine came in a powercolor box, with a PRO sticker on it with extra games, WinDVD, and cables. It gets curiouser and curiouser. Dont know what LE means but mine was a Lite Retail and there was no LE in the title. Mine had no bundled games but otherwise its a full-blooded 9800Pro. Your UK supplier - did they offer to change it? Shaun --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004 |
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