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P4S333 hard drive capacity
Hi All!
Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy |
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In article , "Katy"
wrote: Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy http://www.asus.it/support/english/t...hdd/index.aspx Supported since BIOS 1004. The OS part of things is a different issue however. If you Ghost the current install over to the new drive, the OS may not be prepared to boot from the 160GB drive, and the image on the new 160GB drive could be corrupted after it boots. http://www.48bitlba.com/winXPhb.htm (fresh install recommendations) http://www.48bitlba.com/reference.htm (reference info) HTH, Paul |
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Your motherboard will only recognize up to 137GB of harddrive capacity.
-- DaveW "Katy" wrote in message ... Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy |
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Ok, I won't be alarmed then when that is all that is visible. Thanks for
clarifying the total amount recognized. It is still more than I am getting right now and I can upgrade with a newer mobo down the road for the rest. I'm fine with the 137gb. Thanks Dave! katy "DaveW" wrote in message news:gbq1d.38512$MQ5.11682@attbi_s52... Your motherboard will only recognize up to 137GB of harddrive capacity. -- DaveW "Katy" wrote in message ... Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy |
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Thanks Paul! I understand now that only 137gb will be recognized on my
P4S333 mobo. Thank you for the link and info. With your 2nd alert about the OS, the Ghost idea might not be in my best interest. I suppose it makes sense that if this OS is pulling in data that shows there is a 'bad sector', then that same info will carry over to the new drive with the Ghost image? I was thinking this was a 'hardware' problem and that trading the hardware for something new would help. But if the image sees a problem, then Ghosting would not cure what the OS is seeing? Would this be correct? A ghost image would be preferable for me, but not if I wind up with the same problem on a new, bad-sector-free hard drive. That can only occur if a fresh install of the OS is done, is that correct? Thanks again and please verify my understanding? katy "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy http://www.asus.it/support/english/t...hdd/index.aspx Supported since BIOS 1004. The OS part of things is a different issue however. If you Ghost the current install over to the new drive, the OS may not be prepared to boot from the 160GB drive, and the image on the new 160GB drive could be corrupted after it boots. http://www.48bitlba.com/winXPhb.htm (fresh install recommendations) http://www.48bitlba.com/reference.htm (reference info) HTH, Paul |
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In article , "Katy"
wrote: Thanks Paul! I understand now that only 137gb will be recognized on my P4S333 mobo. Thank you for the link and info. With your 2nd alert about the OS, the Ghost idea might not be in my best interest. I suppose it makes sense that if this OS is pulling in data that shows there is a 'bad sector', then that same info will carry over to the new drive with the Ghost image? I was thinking this was a 'hardware' problem and that trading the hardware for something new would help. But if the image sees a problem, then Ghosting would not cure what the OS is seeing? Would this be correct? A ghost image would be preferable for me, but not if I wind up with the same problem on a new, bad-sector-free hard drive. That can only occur if a fresh install of the OS is done, is that correct? Thanks again and please verify my understanding? katy I would attack the problem in a few steps: 1) Verify that the motherboard can actually run the disk in its full 160GB glory. To do that, follow the instructions on the 48bitlba site, using either WinXP SP1, or whatever service pack is required for your OS. Check that your OS has support for 137GB before wasting time on that option. Once the OS is installed, fill the remaining space on the disk with 1GB sized files, as a test. If you are truly in "137GB mode", then as you duplicate and fill the disk with files, the file system will survive. If the install is incorrect, the file system on the new disk will be corrupted just as a file is copied to the 137GB mark (128GB binary math). The reason I recommend going through this exercise, is to verify that your OS, your motherboard hardware, and your BIOS are happy at 137GB. You can use this to prove or disprove DaveW's assertion. If you never plan on attempting to access the upper 80GB of space on the disk (i.e. the new disk is just a replacement 80GB for the old disk), then this exercise isn't needed. If you do a bit-by-bit copy of the original 80GB disk, the disk will look to the OS like it is 80GB in size (note that if you attack it with Partition Magic, you could get yourself into trouble if you attempt to expand the partitions, as Partition Magic will make the rest of the space available, at your peril, if you haven't proved the OS can handle the new configuration). I would leave the original 80GB disk disconnected from the computer, while doing this test install of the OS. You don't want anything messing up that disk. A cheating option, would be to Google on "set max address", which is an option on IDE disks to change the declared size of the disk. I don't know of any software that will do this for you, but if you want to make the disk look like a 120GB or an 80GB, there is a mechanism in the ATA standard to do it. 2) Step 2 is to copy the disk bit-by-bit 3) Step 3 is optional. If you did the experiment in step1, then once you are booted from the new disk, do whatever 48bitlba.com says to do, to make your OS ready to handle the 137GB disk. (Since you already tested this in step 1, you know it works :-) Get a copy of Partition Magic and resize the partitions as you like. As for step 2... Well, I don't know anything about Ghost, so all I can suggest is to try to transfer the 80GB over to the 160GB and see if it works. (Ghost manuals) http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/files/ghost/index.html I examined the Ghost 2000 manual (ngpe.pdf) and if you run Ghost from an actual MSDOS prompt, it has a -clone option: "To copy local drive one to local drive two: ghostpe.exe -clone,mode=copy,src=1,dst=2 " I think what this does, is copy 80GB from the first disk, to the first 80GB of the second disk. This will make the second half of the disk appear inaccessible (until you use Partition Magic or a similar utility, to make changes later). There is a later section in the manual "Examples of -CRC32 usage" that shows how to generate CRC32 values for the files on the old disk, and use that to compare to the image created on the new disk. So, you can fashion a verify operation with a couple of -CRC32 operations. As I don't know a thing about Ghost, perhaps someone who does this all the time can verify that this is the right thing to do :-) My recipe above is how I would attempt to tackle the problem. As with _any_ operation, no matter how innocuous, have a backup of your data as protection against an accident/catastrophy. (Like specifying the wrong SRC and DST disk IDs.) When a disk exhibits symptoms like yours, the _first_ thing you do, is use some backup software and your favorite backup method, to protect yourself. Even if it means a few boxes of CD/DVD rewriteables :-) I learned my lesson already, about putting off backups "until tomorrow", only to find my disk is dead. About the only potential hitch I see in this whole process, is what Ghost will do if it finds a really bad sector. I've had disks that hung up on a bad sector, and wouldn't do anything. If your disk is that bad, making backups or Ghosting might be quite a challenge. It may require a file backup approach, rather than a bit-by-bit clone of the disk. Good luck, Paul "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy http://www.asus.it/support/english/t...hdd/index.aspx Supported since BIOS 1004. The OS part of things is a different issue however. If you Ghost the current install over to the new drive, the OS may not be prepared to boot from the 160GB drive, and the image on the new 160GB drive could be corrupted after it boots. http://www.48bitlba.com/winXPhb.htm (fresh install recommendations) http://www.48bitlba.com/reference.htm (reference info) HTH, Paul |
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Thanks Paul, I hope you see this. I have run a disk test with Maxtor.exe 5
advance surface scans in fact and nothing it reports points to any bad sectors. As with Partition Magic, I've tried also but nothing is found to fix. I'm not sure why Event Viewer is showing this but I have copied my important files to a DVD as backup. It would only do me good to start from scratch vs. a Ghost image but the Ghost would've been easier, due to installing so many programs &/or updates over again. I'm planning to remove the Maxtor drive entirely and just install the Seagate and install XP from scratch. I will order the SP2 from Microsoft for all the updates, I have SP2 installed on here already (Maxtor still) and all seems to be working ok. I haven't seen any negative affects from this 'bad sector' but its not going away either in EV. Of course I would hope to use the full new hard drive size eventually so I'll follow the suggestions you wrote down, I appreciate all your time and information in this. I like Ghost but not if I'm just carrying a problem from one drive to another. Thanks again for ALL your work and I hope you're around when I finally get this accomplished. I may need more advice katy "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: Thanks Paul! I understand now that only 137gb will be recognized on my P4S333 mobo. Thank you for the link and info. With your 2nd alert about the OS, the Ghost idea might not be in my best interest. I suppose it makes sense that if this OS is pulling in data that shows there is a 'bad sector', then that same info will carry over to the new drive with the Ghost image? I was thinking this was a 'hardware' problem and that trading the hardware for something new would help. But if the image sees a problem, then Ghosting would not cure what the OS is seeing? Would this be correct? A ghost image would be preferable for me, but not if I wind up with the same problem on a new, bad-sector-free hard drive. That can only occur if a fresh install of the OS is done, is that correct? Thanks again and please verify my understanding? katy I would attack the problem in a few steps: 1) Verify that the motherboard can actually run the disk in its full 160GB glory. To do that, follow the instructions on the 48bitlba site, using either WinXP SP1, or whatever service pack is required for your OS. Check that your OS has support for 137GB before wasting time on that option. Once the OS is installed, fill the remaining space on the disk with 1GB sized files, as a test. If you are truly in "137GB mode", then as you duplicate and fill the disk with files, the file system will survive. If the install is incorrect, the file system on the new disk will be corrupted just as a file is copied to the 137GB mark (128GB binary math). The reason I recommend going through this exercise, is to verify that your OS, your motherboard hardware, and your BIOS are happy at 137GB. You can use this to prove or disprove DaveW's assertion. If you never plan on attempting to access the upper 80GB of space on the disk (i.e. the new disk is just a replacement 80GB for the old disk), then this exercise isn't needed. If you do a bit-by-bit copy of the original 80GB disk, the disk will look to the OS like it is 80GB in size (note that if you attack it with Partition Magic, you could get yourself into trouble if you attempt to expand the partitions, as Partition Magic will make the rest of the space available, at your peril, if you haven't proved the OS can handle the new configuration). I would leave the original 80GB disk disconnected from the computer, while doing this test install of the OS. You don't want anything messing up that disk. A cheating option, would be to Google on "set max address", which is an option on IDE disks to change the declared size of the disk. I don't know of any software that will do this for you, but if you want to make the disk look like a 120GB or an 80GB, there is a mechanism in the ATA standard to do it. 2) Step 2 is to copy the disk bit-by-bit 3) Step 3 is optional. If you did the experiment in step1, then once you are booted from the new disk, do whatever 48bitlba.com says to do, to make your OS ready to handle the 137GB disk. (Since you already tested this in step 1, you know it works :-) Get a copy of Partition Magic and resize the partitions as you like. As for step 2... Well, I don't know anything about Ghost, so all I can suggest is to try to transfer the 80GB over to the 160GB and see if it works. (Ghost manuals) http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/files/ghost/index.html I examined the Ghost 2000 manual (ngpe.pdf) and if you run Ghost from an actual MSDOS prompt, it has a -clone option: "To copy local drive one to local drive two: ghostpe.exe -clone,mode=copy,src=1,dst=2 " I think what this does, is copy 80GB from the first disk, to the first 80GB of the second disk. This will make the second half of the disk appear inaccessible (until you use Partition Magic or a similar utility, to make changes later). There is a later section in the manual "Examples of -CRC32 usage" that shows how to generate CRC32 values for the files on the old disk, and use that to compare to the image created on the new disk. So, you can fashion a verify operation with a couple of -CRC32 operations. As I don't know a thing about Ghost, perhaps someone who does this all the time can verify that this is the right thing to do :-) My recipe above is how I would attempt to tackle the problem. As with _any_ operation, no matter how innocuous, have a backup of your data as protection against an accident/catastrophy. (Like specifying the wrong SRC and DST disk IDs.) When a disk exhibits symptoms like yours, the _first_ thing you do, is use some backup software and your favorite backup method, to protect yourself. Even if it means a few boxes of CD/DVD rewriteables :-) I learned my lesson already, about putting off backups "until tomorrow", only to find my disk is dead. About the only potential hitch I see in this whole process, is what Ghost will do if it finds a really bad sector. I've had disks that hung up on a bad sector, and wouldn't do anything. If your disk is that bad, making backups or Ghosting might be quite a challenge. It may require a file backup approach, rather than a bit-by-bit clone of the disk. Good luck, Paul "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: Hi All! Does anyone know if this motherboard would recognize a 160GB hard drive in a P4S333 motherboard? The board is the original I purchased, not flashed, it's REV 1.xx and Bios Award Revision 1006C 04/19/2002. This info is from a Belarc Advisor report. I just bought a Seagate Barracuda 160GB from Best Buy that had a $50 rebate I couldn't resist, and I need to Ghost my present hard drive to this new one. I haven't installed it yet because first I wanted to find out if I need to 'prepare' the new drive somehow first in order to use Symantec's Ghost to put an image on the new drive. if anyone knows that answer too, it would be most helpful. But in reading the instructions that came with the drive, I thought I should find out for sure if 160GB is too large for this version of this motherboard bios. My current 80GB Maxtor drive is showing errors due to 'bad sector' in Event Viewer. I use WinXP Professional in it. Thank you anyone for help with either of the above dilemmas....... katy http://www.asus.it/support/english/t...hdd/index.aspx Supported since BIOS 1004. The OS part of things is a different issue however. If you Ghost the current install over to the new drive, the OS may not be prepared to boot from the 160GB drive, and the image on the new 160GB drive could be corrupted after it boots. http://www.48bitlba.com/winXPhb.htm (fresh install recommendations) http://www.48bitlba.com/reference.htm (reference info) HTH, Paul |
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