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Old March 13th 13, 09:08 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Desmond[_3_]
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Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html

It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim

Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g

HELP

TIA

Desmond.
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Old March 13th 13, 09:28 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Desmond[_3_]
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On Wednesday, 13 March 2013 09:08:02 UTC, Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html



It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim



Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g



HELP



TIA



Desmond.


Sorry this is in addition and more confusing

*** Documentation ***
RAM 1 GB DDR3 RAM
Memory capacity - 16 GB Flash NAND internal memory
- Memory expansion up to 32 GB via Micro SD card slot

Does this mean I would have 3 sets of memory
1g Ram internal
16g SD Ram internal
32g Ram External Micro-SD

----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aakash_%28tablet%29

On a tablet, the micro-SD card stores all of the applications and the SD card stores your audio and video files.
You do not store audio and video files on the micro-SD card, you store applications.

The external acts as a hard disk and is permanant and swapable

The internal 16g
The external dosn't store audio/video that is the internal

He refer to Micro-SD and SD (Confusing)
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Old March 13th 13, 09:39 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul
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Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets
far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html

It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable.
If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim

Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a
compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g

HELP

TIA

Desmond.


"Pre-order now, to get stock Mar14"

http://www.versustablet.com/10-table...6gb-p-202.html

Dual Core ARM Cortex A9
1280 x 800 IPS Screen
10 point multi-touch touch screen
Micro SD card expansion slot
HDMI out

16GB Flash NAND - Internal Memory --- this is your disk "drive"
Memory Expansion up to 32GB --- adding a second "drive" using
via Micro SD Card slot a microSD chip.

1GB DDR3 RAM --- System memory appears fixed.
It is likely soldered to the PCB.
There is no door on the back of the unit, to add RAM.

The right hand of this photo, shows the back of the thing.

http://www.versustablet.com/images/pics/19_1.png

You'll notice the items at the bottom of this page,
are limited to 1GB of system RAM here. This could
just be a typical Cortex A9 configuration. Cortex A9
doesn't tell us the exact SOC chip. That's just the
name of the architecture. We'd need info on the SOC used,
to determine if more RAM could be fitted. But if
the existing RAM is soldered down, expansion would
"require a soldering iron" :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortex_A9

The tablet is not very thick. To add a memory socket,
adds thickness to the unit. As does using a battery
pack that is removable. So things like batteries
are affixed to the inside. The RAM would be soldered
down. Only your "disk drive" slot is usable for
storage. There is a mini USB connector of some
sort, and that's another way you can connect to it.

Paul
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Old March 13th 13, 02:26 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Charlie Hoffpauir
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On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:08:02 -0700 (PDT), Desmond
wrote:

Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html

It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim

Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g

HELP

TIA

Desmond.


Desmond,

What is confusing here is that the term "Memory" means two different
things depencding on how it's used.

The 1 GB memory is the Random Access Memory, RAM. This is the working
memory that the computer processor uses.

The 16 GB memory refers to "storage". This is basically the same as
disk storage, only it's solid-state storage. Storage memorey is
expandable because the unit has a micro-SD card slot. It's unclear (to
me) if their reference to 32 GB means you can add a 16 GB micro-SD to
total 32 GB, or if you can add a 32 GB card.
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Old March 13th 13, 02:49 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Tablet memories

On Wednesday, 13 March 2013 09:08:02 UTC, Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html



It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim



Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g



HELP



TIA



Desmond.


Ok thanks. I try and find out if adding 32g means 32g or 16+32g
I also take it both the solid state drives can store music and video and that as the 32g is removable I can do a solid state disk swap. Looks good though. A 7" tablit is a bit small for me.
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Old March 13th 13, 03:17 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default Tablet memories

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:49:57 -0700 (PDT), Desmond
wrote:

On Wednesday, 13 March 2013 09:08:02 UTC, Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html



It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim



Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g



HELP



TIA



Desmond.


Ok thanks. I try and find out if adding 32g means 32g or 16+32g
I also take it both the solid state drives can store music and video and that as the 32g is removable I can do a solid state disk swap. Looks good though. A 7" tablit is a bit small for me.


Yes, but just remember that flash memory (storage) on an SD card
typically runs much slower than an internal SSD, and that only the
memory on the SD card seems to be "removable".
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Old March 13th 13, 04:24 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul
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Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:49:57 -0700 (PDT), Desmond
wrote:

On Wednesday, 13 March 2013 09:08:02 UTC, Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html



It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim



Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g



HELP



TIA



Desmond.

Ok thanks. I try and find out if adding 32g means 32g or 16+32g
I also take it both the solid state drives can store music and video and that as the 32g is removable I can do a solid state disk swap. Looks good though. A 7" tablit is a bit small for me.


Yes, but just remember that flash memory (storage) on an SD card
typically runs much slower than an internal SSD, and that only the
memory on the SD card seems to be "removable".


The description here is rather open ended. The typical card you
might find at the Walmart (SDHC), tops out at 10MB/sec best case.
But at least in terms of "standards" defined, UHS defines higher rates.
Whether you can actually buy one of those, and have it work with that
tablet, is another matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDXC#SDXC

The article here, the UHS II announcement, there are some
extra pins defined on the package.

http://hothardware.com/News/SD-Assoc...Specification/

I can see a vanilla UHS example here. Advert makes a glib reference
to 45MB/sec. It would be interesting, in the tablet documentation,
whether it supports the UHS speeds or not (clock rate).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q3C98S

(Review)
"I received my card today, and it failed to work. I called
SanDisk support and they determined my card was a fake.
I highly recommend if your card doesn't show up in a factory
sealed box..like you'd buy from Walmart..Then send it back ASAP.
The really sad part of this is that Amazon sent this directly to me."

The 32G storage capacity value implies (perhaps) the tablet support
SDHC but not SDXC ? But the documentation for this tablet leaves a
lot to be desired. Kinda like buying a melon at the grocery store.

If I was buying it, I'd expect to see a downloadable "user manual" first.
And the user manual had better be specifying what I can use with the
limited expansion slots.

Paul
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Old March 13th 13, 04:55 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
John Doe
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Desmond wrote:

On Wednesday, 13 March 2013 09:08:02 UTC, Desmond wrote:
Hi I found it infuriating here (UK) watching TV presenters with tablets far bigger than the ones in the shop. I have had a look again and found:



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/versus-...46536-pdt.html



It states 16g memory but it looks like it only has 1g but is expandable. If so what type of memory is it I know about PC dim and Laptop sodim



Is it the laptop memory I need and how do I know if there is a compatability issue with the timmings of the built in 1g



HELP



TIA



Desmond.


Sorry this is in addition and more confusing


Coincidentally, that describes your post. Your unwrapped lines
are quadruple spaced...

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*** Documentation ***
RAM 1 GB DDR3 RAM
Memory capacity - 16 GB Flash NAND internal memory
- Memory expansion up to 32 GB via Micro SD card slot

Does this mean I would have 3 sets of memory
1g Ram internal
16g SD Ram internal
32g Ram External Micro-SD

----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aakash_%28tablet%29

On a tablet, the micro-SD card stores all of the applications and the SD card stores your audio and video files.
You do not store audio and video files on the micro-SD card, you store applications.

The external acts as a hard disk and is permanant and swapable

The internal 16g
The external dosn't store audio/video that is the internal

He refer to Micro-SD and SD (Confusing)


 




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