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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
Hallo,
A few days ago I was at my mother's place. I noticed her laptop was infuriatingly slow. It was a Toshiba Satellite L670. It used to be fast, I was also under the impression that it was a kinda fast and expensive laptop. One day the harddisk apperently died or crashed, not 100%. My mother brought it to a repair shop. What they did to the machine is unknown. I installed World of Warships on it... It took forever it felt like... many hours. While it was installing this game I observed/monitored the system. I believe the slowness might be caused by other the internet connection (KPN wireless adsl crap/thick walls) and/or the harddisk. My impression was the harddisk was limited to just 10 MegaByte/sec. It was even far worse than this. Only a couple of kilobytes. I tried to research what the original speed was of the harddisk of this toshiba model. However toshiba REFUSES to publishize there harddisks speeds properly ! The only give out crap like: rounds per minute and other useless crap. It's like specifieing that a car produces 3000 rounds per minute for their wheels... Utterly fokking useless. I explained this to my mother. What we want to know is simple things like: X Bytes/Sec read and X Bytes/Sec written. That's only thing that matters and toshiba completely FAILS at this to specify this properly !!! SHAME ON TOSHIBA... may you get cancer and rott and die and burn in hell ! FOKKING WORTHLESS COMPANY !!! =DDDDD Though many websites and specifications do not specify the HARDDISK SPEED in BYTES/SEC.... I hope this changes FAST and that people start to notice THIS LACK OF INFORMATION. Harddisk speed is actually very important for operating systems like windows. People expect a certain performance from their harddisks and assume it's natural. Well apperently it's not. Perhaps a slow harddisk was put back in. I will find out the thruth some day, hopefully some people one the internet/usenet can help with that. Anyway... on with the story. There was also some F-Secure and CCleaner running and something strange IBM software... to intercept the entire BROWSER.... it would prevent screenshots and ROUTER configuration. Green screens... It looked kinda advanced... and my mother is paying 5 bucks per month for this security... to secure her internet banking. I wonder if this is perhaps running in some kind of management mode... I'd guess not... but not 100%... maybe there is an operating system below the operating system. For now I will assume there is not... I think I remember now... I did see something callled: Rapport or RapportService or something. I think this was actually the IBM component somehow integrating itself with the system like a cancer. Anyway... next time I visit my mother's place.... I will benchmark the harddisk to see what it's performance is: Bytes Read/Sec and Bytes Written/Sec. I would like to compare that information with the original harddisk that was supposed to be in that Toshiba. So does anybody have the same laptop and can perform this test ? Or can somebody else retrieve this performance information from somewhere ? Perhaps I will also try contacting toshiba myself but I expect very little from them. They may be hiding their poor harddisk performance specs. Bye, Skybuck. |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:00:09 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
wrote: My impression was the harddisk was limited to just 10 MegaByte/sec. It was even far worse than this. Only a couple of kilobytes. I tried to research what the original speed was of the harddisk of this toshiba model. However toshiba REFUSES to publishize there harddisks speeds properly ! The only give out crap like: rounds per minute and other useless crap. Unless you provide the computer's serial# Toshiba can't tell you what disk is in it. Toshiba uses it's own hard drives, but which model was put into your computer depends on the build order and the date it was assembled. Find out what model disk you have and look up its specs directly. Perhaps a slow harddisk was put back in. I will find out the thruth some day, hopefully some people one the internet/usenet can help with that. There hasn't been a 10MB/s hard disk since ~1990. Something else is wrong. The disk may be physically damaged and trying to compensate with retries and error correction. Or there may be some systemic software problem - malware or crudware, or misconfiguration. George |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
Can't comment on the rest of the stuff but I can tell you that my bank
strongly recommended I install Rapport Service, it makes online banking more secure, look he http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/star...exe-26152.html Kenny "Skybuck Flying" wrote in message .. . Hallo, A few days ago I was at my mother's place. I noticed her laptop was infuriatingly slow. It was a Toshiba Satellite L670. It used to be fast, I was also under the impression that it was a kinda fast and expensive laptop. One day the harddisk apperently died or crashed, not 100%. My mother brought it to a repair shop. What they did to the machine is unknown. I installed World of Warships on it... It took forever it felt like... many hours. While it was installing this game I observed/monitored the system. I believe the slowness might be caused by other the internet connection (KPN wireless adsl crap/thick walls) and/or the harddisk. My impression was the harddisk was limited to just 10 MegaByte/sec. It was even far worse than this. Only a couple of kilobytes. I tried to research what the original speed was of the harddisk of this toshiba model. However toshiba REFUSES to publishize there harddisks speeds properly ! The only give out crap like: rounds per minute and other useless crap. It's like specifieing that a car produces 3000 rounds per minute for their wheels... Utterly fokking useless. I explained this to my mother. What we want to know is simple things like: X Bytes/Sec read and X Bytes/Sec written. That's only thing that matters and toshiba completely FAILS at this to specify this properly !!! SHAME ON TOSHIBA... may you get cancer and rott and die and burn in hell ! FOKKING WORTHLESS COMPANY !!! =DDDDD Though many websites and specifications do not specify the HARDDISK SPEED in BYTES/SEC.... I hope this changes FAST and that people start to notice THIS LACK OF INFORMATION. Harddisk speed is actually very important for operating systems like windows. People expect a certain performance from their harddisks and assume it's natural. Well apperently it's not. Perhaps a slow harddisk was put back in. I will find out the thruth some day, hopefully some people one the internet/usenet can help with that. Anyway... on with the story. There was also some F-Secure and CCleaner running and something strange IBM software... to intercept the entire BROWSER.... it would prevent screenshots and ROUTER configuration. Green screens... It looked kinda advanced... and my mother is paying 5 bucks per month for this security... to secure her internet banking. I wonder if this is perhaps running in some kind of management mode... I'd guess not... but not 100%... maybe there is an operating system below the operating system. For now I will assume there is not... I think I remember now... I did see something callled: Rapport or RapportService or something. I think this was actually the IBM component somehow integrating itself with the system like a cancer. Anyway... next time I visit my mother's place.... I will benchmark the harddisk to see what it's performance is: Bytes Read/Sec and Bytes Written/Sec. I would like to compare that information with the original harddisk that was supposed to be in that Toshiba. So does anybody have the same laptop and can perform this test ? Or can somebody else retrieve this performance information from somewhere ? Perhaps I will also try contacting toshiba myself but I expect very little from them. They may be hiding their poor harddisk performance specs. Bye, Skybuck. |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
I see no reason to trust IBM above any other company so it's kind of a joke
to me. But none the less, I'd like security researchers to research this software and blow holes into it as well. As far as I am concerned, software is not made more secure by adding even more software ! It just increases attack surface ! LOL. Bye, Skybuck =D |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
My impression was the harddisk was limited to just 10 MegaByte/sec. It was
even far worse than this. Only a couple of kilobytes. I tried to research what the original speed was of the harddisk of this toshiba model. However toshiba REFUSES to publishize there harddisks speeds properly ! The only give out crap like: rounds per minute and other useless crap. " Unless you provide the computer's serial# Toshiba can't tell you what disk is in it. Toshiba uses it's own hard drives, but which model was put into your computer depends on the build order and the date it was assembled. " Sounds like a scam to me ! Not all toshiba products of the same model are built equal ?! This cannot possibly be serious ?! Class-action lawsuit anybody ?! " Find out what model disk you have and look up its specs directly. " First of all who the **** would I know what model disk is inside of it ? Especially now that it is possibly replaced ?! Second of all I already looked up direct specs and it mentions nothing about bytes/sec read or bytes/sec write. So your advice is 100% bogus. Try it yourself. If you can find me even 1 spec that mentions bytes/sec read or byte/sec write then you'd not be a total dick or clueless noob. Perhaps a slow harddisk was put back in. I will find out the thruth some day, hopefully some people one the internet/usenet can help with that. " There hasn't been a 10MB/s hard disk since ~1990. " How the hell would you know. Did you ever look at a toshiba spec ?! It doesn't contain this kind of information ! " Something else is wrong. " Yeah it's you.. you are clueless just like every other review site that completely misses this detail. This is not the first time I have seen review sites completely miss the obvious. So far they have missed: 1. Overheating problems. 2. The GTX 970 RAM memory scam. As far as I am concerned review sites are to be taken with a grain of salt and are nearly useless, they don't even test it long term. Though some of the info can still be nice but it is far from complete. "The disk may be physically damaged and trying to compensate with retries and error correction." Possibly but highly unlikely. "Or there may be some systemic software problem - malware or crudware, or misconfiguration." Possibly... slow world of warships installer. Though rest of system was performance slow as well with no clear indication what was causing it. Perhaps just slow disk. Bye, Skybuck. |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (NoHD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
Skybuck Flying wrote:
My impression was the harddisk was limited to just 10 MegaByte/sec. It was even far worse than this. Only a couple of kilobytes. I tried to research what the original speed was of the harddisk of this toshiba model. However toshiba REFUSES to publishize there harddisks speeds properly ! The only give out crap like: rounds per minute and other useless crap. " Unless you provide the computer's serial# Toshiba can't tell you what disk is in it. Toshiba uses it's own hard drives, but which model was put into your computer depends on the build order and the date it was assembled. " Sounds like a scam to me ! Not all toshiba products of the same model are built equal ?! This cannot possibly be serious ?! Class-action lawsuit anybody ?! If you have a backup image of the OS partition while the original hard drive was in the computer, the model number of the hard drive might still be stored in a registry file in there. To test that, try entering the hard drive model number from your own computer in Regedit, and see if it is recorded in there. For example, in my copy of WinXP, the list of hard drives that have been used in the OS is under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\DeviceClasses\{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b} If the OS is ever reinstalled, historical information in there will be lost. Thus, you'd have to scrounge through a backup image to find such evidence. Paul |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 00:00:48 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
wrote: " Find out what model disk you have and look up its specs directly. " First of all who the **** would I know what model disk is inside of it ? The Windows Device Manager will tell you. Any S.M.A.R.T. informatin utility will tell you. Any disk benchmark or "optimizer" utility will tell you. If all else fails, open the ****ing case and look. Second of all I already looked up direct specs and it mentions nothing about bytes/sec read or bytes/sec write. How exactly did you look it up if you don't know what it is? So your advice is 100% bogus. Your brains are 100% jello. Try listening to what people tell you. Try it yourself. I was doing so before the internet was graced with your presence. If you can find me even 1 spec that mentions bytes/sec read or byte/sec write then you'd not be a total dick or clueless noob. Every drive's data sheet gives that information. It will not be found in online marketing brochures. If you can't find a) the rotational speed b) the number of tracks c) the number of sectors per track d) the size of a sector e) the size of the buffer then you don't have an actual data sheet. If you can find these things, then you have what you need to figure it out regardless of whether there is some "executive summary" paragraph that tells you explicitly. " There hasn't been a 10MB/s hard disk since ~1990. " How the hell would you know. If you were old enough to be out of diapers you also would know. Sustained transfer rates reached 10MB/s in the mid 90s, and sustained rates are governed by spinning metal - not by any caching that may be done. Did you ever look at a toshiba spec ?! Many times. It doesn't contain this kind of information ! Yes it does. |
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(Repaired) Toshiba Laptop Satellite L670 performing poorly (No HD Speed Information ?!? Weird IBM stuff)
I benchmarked this harddisk with hdtach or so.
Read speed was about 100 to 50 MB/sec or so. Not exactly sure... but probably around 60 to 50 megabyte/sec. So seems somewhat ok... though my hitachi can go 180 Megabyte/sec probably thanks to it's ram system and so forth. I stopped some services on her laptop to try out starwars battlefront and later world of warships... went a bit faster... though updating still required a lot of time for wow... though wow somewhat buggy too... Btw... starwars battlefront was total **** lol... Though wow is pretty cool. Bye, Skybuck. |
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