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drivers for 4870 are crap
I've noticed some flickering light sources in a few games now and I haven't
tested many games because I only got the 4870 yesterday. It's really bad in Gothic3 but I looked into it and that game gives lots of people similar issues. In Il-2 1946 I see the sun reflecting on the water is bouncing around a lot though and that is not normal. Also in Il-2 my gun flashes are blue isntead of the correct yellow. I admit I am using tweaked DNA drivers but doing some research on the web it seems these problems with 4870 and 4850 are common. Even Crysis shows some shimmering in some light sources when you are close to them. Why don't the video card reviews ever mention these types of issues? That would be more helpful to me than describing the goddamn box and contents of said box. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"Dauphin de Viennois" wrote in message news:Wiaek.66054$kx.57053@pd7urf3no... I've noticed some flickering light sources in a few games now and I haven't tested many games because I only got the 4870 yesterday. It's really bad in Gothic3 but I looked into it and that game gives lots of people similar issues. In Il-2 1946 I see the sun reflecting on the water is bouncing around a lot though and that is not normal. Also in Il-2 my gun flashes are blue isntead of the correct yellow. I admit I am using tweaked DNA drivers but doing some research on the web it seems these problems with 4870 and 4850 are common. Even Crysis shows some shimmering in some light sources when you are close to them. Why don't the video card reviews ever mention these types of issues? That would be more helpful to me than describing the goddamn box and contents of said box. Did you try the ATI hotfix drivers for the 48xx series? |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"KCB" wrote in
: Did you try the ATI hotfix drivers for the 48xx series? DNA ATi 8.6B for Vista is what I am using. I think those have the hotfix in them already. I did some reasearch on these issues and it seems hotfix has the same issues anyway. Should have known better to stick with Nvidia. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"Dauphin de Viennois" wrote in message
news:hMfek.96259$gc5.12403@pd7urf2no... "KCB" wrote in : Did you try the ATI hotfix drivers for the 48xx series? DNA ATi 8.6B for Vista is what I am using. I think those have the hotfix in them already. I did some reasearch on these issues and it seems hotfix has the same issues anyway. Should have known better to stick with Nvidia. Relax. The card has been out for less than a month. When NVIDIA's drivers leave the door perfect from day one then it will be a different story. ATI's Catalyst driver team is a world class organization. I know... I work with them on a daily basis. The developer talent has and will continue to innovate and deliver on quality code, and the management team is unbelievably slim for a company as large as AMD, i.e., they execute relatively quickly. (Compare the driver release schedule to that of NVIDIA's and you'll see some start differences) Whatever IQ issues exist today will definitely be fixed. I'm not sure if they have a person scouring newsgroups for these sorts of reports though. And, like you said, there hasn't been any mention of these issues in the top reviewer sites. So, in case AMD is not already aware of these issues, it would be in your best interests to report this to the AMD/ATI asap. Tony |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
ATI's Catalyst driver team is a world class organization. I know... I work with them on a daily basis. The developer talent has and will continue to innovate and deliver on quality code, and the management team is unbelievably slim for a company as large as AMD, i.e., they execute relatively quickly. (Compare the driver release schedule to that of NVIDIA's and you'll see some start differences) Whatever IQ issues exist today will definitely be fixed. I'm not sure if they have a person scouring newsgroups for these sorts of reports though. And, like you said, there hasn't been any mention of these issues in the top reviewer sites. So, in case AMD is not already aware of these issues, it would be in your best interests to report this to the AMD/ATI asap. Tony The fact that ATI/AMD releases updated monthly drivers speaks nothing as to the quality of the release and the maturity and stability of the drivers. Your post then seems to infer from this premise that nVidia drivers are therefore inferior to the ATI/AMD ones since they release WHQL drivers less frequently. This logic escapes me. Both manufacturers have had and continue to have ongoing driver issues. Consider the fact that it took from the 7.6's until shortly before now to restore proper 3D function in a huge number of currently manufactured AGP cards. 11 releases of Catalysts without a fix for thousands of cards for a known issue doesn't speak highly of addressing major issues.... from someone who claims to "work with them on a daily basis" and have inside knowledge as to ATI/AMD's management team structure I find your post hard to take seriously. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
Dauphin de Viennois wrote in
news:hMfek.96259$gc5.12403@pd7urf2no: DNA ATi 8.6B for Vista is what I am using. I think those have the hotfix in them already. I did some reasearch on these issues and it seems hotfix has the same issues anyway. Should have known better to stick with Nvidia. OOps, I'm using DNA 8.7B (based on ATI beta driver). And now that I have installed these drivers they cause some bug where I can't go bgack to the ATI hotfix driver. Tried installing it twice and even though it goes through the install fine I can't get access to CCC because it reports there is something wrong with the installation. Go back to 8.7B and it is fine. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"Tony DiMarzio" wrote in
: "Dauphin de Viennois" wrote in message news:hMfek.96259$gc5.12403@pd7urf2no... "KCB" wrote in : Did you try the ATI hotfix drivers for the 48xx series? DNA ATi 8.6B for Vista is what I am using. I think those have the hotfix in them already. I did some reasearch on these issues and it seems hotfix has the same issues anyway. Should have known better to stick with Nvidia. Relax. The card has been out for less than a month. When NVIDIA's drivers leave the door perfect from day one then it will be a different story. ATI's Catalyst driver team is a world class organization. I know... I work with them on a daily basis. The developer talent has and will continue to innovate and deliver on quality code, and the management team is unbelievably slim for a company as large as AMD, i.e., they execute relatively quickly. (Compare the driver release schedule to that of NVIDIA's and you'll see some start differences) Whatever IQ issues exist today will definitely be fixed. I'm not sure if they have a person scouring newsgroups for these sorts of reports though. And, like you said, there hasn't been any mention of these issues in the top reviewer sites. So, in case AMD is not already aware of these issues, it would be in your best interests to report this to the AMD/ATI asap. Tony 8800GT drivers were perfect for me from day one of installing. I remember that Omega had to fix an issue with FS2002 on 8500 because the official ATI driver was NFG art the time. How come an amateur driver tweaker can fix it but not pro ATI driver team? They did fix it on a later driver release though. Probably thanks to Omega-Man. Anyway, I just posted to this thread that it is 8.7B driver I am using and now I can't install 8.6 hotfix. It's not my system either as I have read this is a common issue with 8.7b driver. I read that to fix it nyou have to update the driver via device manager but that is not working for me on Vista64 and it just says I already have the latest driver. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"Augustus" wrote in
news:hCpek.4041$1o6.3883@edtnps83: The fact that ATI/AMD releases updated monthly drivers speaks nothing as to the quality of the release and the maturity and stability of the drivers. Your post then seems to infer from this premise that nVidia drivers are therefore inferior to the ATI/AMD ones since they release WHQL drivers less frequently. This logic escapes me. Both manufacturers have had and continue to have ongoing driver issues. Consider the fact that it took from the 7.6's until shortly before now to restore proper 3D function in a huge number of currently manufactured AGP cards. 11 releases of Catalysts without a fix for thousands of cards for a known issue doesn't speak highly of addressing major issues.... from someone who claims to "work with them on a daily basis" and have inside knowledge as to ATI/AMD's management team structure I find your post hard to take seriously. Yea, he's just an ATI fanboi so is biased. We don't need bias we need objectivity and the fact is the curretn ATI driver for 4800 cards is crap. |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
"Tony DiMarzio" wrote in
: Relax. The card has been out for less than a month. Imagine if I bought a new TV and it didn't work properly and the manufactuer told me to "relax" and it would work in a month or two properly when they update the firmware. Would that be acceptable to you? Not me. Why does the computer industry get away with **** that other industries would get fried for? |
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drivers for 4870 are crap
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:18:45 GMT, Dauphin de Viennois
wrote: Dauphin de Viennois wrote in news:hMfek.96259$gc5.12403@pd7urf2no: DNA ATi 8.6B for Vista is what I am using. I think those have the hotfix in them already. I did some reasearch on these issues and it seems hotfix has the same issues anyway. Should have known better to stick with Nvidia. OOps, I'm using DNA 8.7B (based on ATI beta driver). And now that I have installed these drivers they cause some bug where I can't go bgack to the ATI hotfix driver. Tried installing it twice and even though it goes through the install fine I can't get access to CCC because it reports there is something wrong with the installation. Go back to 8.7B and it is fine. Must be a vista problem, cause I got a 4870 using the hot fix drivers on windows xp and all works great here all games look great and run faster and look better than the NVIDIA 7950 GT it replaced ) |
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