If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Overheat Dell
My Dell Dimension 4400 keeps overheating and shutting down/sleeping. The fan
appears to be blowing very weak, especially when compared with my old Dell Dimension XPS T700r . I'm assuming that the P4 heats up more than the P3, so therefore the fan in the P4 case should be more powerful, not less? I bought this system used so I have no idea how powerful the fan is supposed to be... What is a good souce for replacement fans for this model? Do you recommend going all out for an even higher-spec'ed fan than the original? Practically speaking, will CPU overheating eventually kill the CPU or cause other damage to the system? |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
"Spiderman" wrote in message ... My Dell Dimension 4400 keeps overheating and shutting down/sleeping. The fan appears to be blowing very weak, especially when compared with my old Dell Dimension XPS T700r . I'm assuming that the P4 heats up more than the P3, so therefore the fan in the P4 case should be more powerful, not less? I bought this system used so I have no idea how powerful the fan is supposed to be... What is a good souce for replacement fans for this model? Do you recommend going all out for an even higher-spec'ed fan than the original? Practically speaking, will CPU overheating eventually kill the CPU or cause other damage to the system? Your problem may be perceived as one of overheating, but likely is not unless you're experiencing error messages such as: "CPU0 Fan Failure" or "Previous Fan Failure" or "System Shutdown Due to Thermal Event". The airflow dynamic (design) of your PIII and P4 Dell systems are entirely different. Both systems have variable speed fans, that speed dictated by a sensor monitoring air temps inside of the case. From what little information you've posted about your Dim4400, I suspect a power-related problem. Stew |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep
shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. "S.Lewis" wrote in message ... "Spiderman" wrote in message ... Your problem may be perceived as one of overheating, but likely is not unless you're experiencing error messages such as: "CPU0 Fan Failure" or "Previous Fan Failure" or "System Shutdown Due to Thermal Event". The airflow dynamic (design) of your PIII and P4 Dell systems are entirely different. Both systems have variable speed fans, that speed dictated by a sensor monitoring air temps inside of the case. From what little information you've posted about your Dim4400, I suspect a power-related problem. Stew |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
"Spiderman" wrote in message ... What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. snip Well, a couple of things. If you've indeed got a Dim4400, that system has an AGP graphics card rather than the Intel Extreme (integrated) video. The first place to start would be to look at your power management settings in WindowsXP to be sure they haven't been changed (right click on desktop/properties/screensaver/power/ and verify that the hard disk, system standby, and system hybernates are set to "never"). Stew |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Spiderman wrote:
My Dell Dimension 4400 keeps overheating and shutting down/sleeping. The fan appears to be blowing very weak, especially when compared with my old Dell Dimension XPS T700r . I'm assuming that the P4 heats up more than the P3, so therefore the fan in the P4 case should be more powerful, not less? I bought this system used so I have no idea how powerful the fan is supposed to be... What is a good souce for replacement fans for this model? Do you recommend going all out for an even higher-spec'ed fan than the original? Practically speaking, will CPU overheating eventually kill the CPU or cause other damage to the system? Shut down the computer and let it get cold, perhaps 30 minutes or more. With a can of "dust cleaner", available at any computer store, thoroughly blow through each air vent and the fan inlet. Because of the relatively high heat load, laptop designers have opted for large quantities of slow moving air to limit cooling noise, and dust tends to collect in the cooling channels. The air inlets and outlets tend to catch larger objects like hair, cheetos, etc. Q |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
"Quaoar" wrote in message ... Spiderman wrote: My Dell Dimension 4400 keeps overheating and shutting down/sleeping. The fan appears to be blowing very weak, especially when compared with my old Dell Dimension XPS T700r . I'm assuming that the P4 heats up more than the P3, so therefore the fan in the P4 case should be more powerful, not less? I bought this system used so I have no idea how powerful the fan is supposed to be... What is a good souce for replacement fans for this model? Do you recommend going all out for an even higher-spec'ed fan than the original? Practically speaking, will CPU overheating eventually kill the CPU or cause other damage to the system? Shut down the computer and let it get cold, perhaps 30 minutes or more. With a can of "dust cleaner", available at any computer store, thoroughly blow through each air vent and the fan inlet. Because of the relatively high heat load, laptop designers have opted for large quantities of slow moving air to limit cooling noise, and dust tends to collect in the cooling channels. The air inlets and outlets tend to catch larger objects like hair, cheetos, etc. Q Sadly, on that series case, cheetos won't become a problem. The only air inlets are under the front audio/USB panel door, and they are minimal (to my liking). Any other air intake is unintended, likely coming in around the panel openings of the floppy and optical drives. Stew |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
"S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. snip Well, a couple of things. If you've indeed got a Dim4400, that system has an AGP graphics card rather than the Intel Extreme (integrated) video. The first place to start would be to look at your power management settings in WindowsXP to be sure they haven't been changed (right click on desktop/properties/screensaver/power/ and verify that the hard disk, system standby, and system hybernates are set to "never"). Stew Stew, They're all set to "never" and the power and sleep buttons are set to "Ask me what to do" when they're pressed. I'm pretty sure that I've got a genuine Dim4400...it sure looks like one and it's written near the power button. The service tag is 834T311. There is an AGP 4x slot (currently unused) as well as the integrated Intel Extreme graphics which I'm currently using. From my understanding, this on-board video is not desirable as it taxes the system memory. I will probably upgrade to a stand-alone AGP card (e.g. ATI 8500) for the extra performance. Do I need to do anything special to disable the integrated graphics or do I just put in the new card and it automagically disables itself? Thanks for your help. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
"Spiderman" wrote in message ... "S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. snip Well, a couple of things. If you've indeed got a Dim4400, that system has an AGP graphics card rather than the Intel Extreme (integrated) video. The first place to start would be to look at your power management settings in WindowsXP to be sure they haven't been changed (right click on desktop/properties/screensaver/power/ and verify that the hard disk, system standby, and system hybernates are set to "never"). Stew Stew, They're all set to "never" and the power and sleep buttons are set to "Ask me what to do" when they're pressed. I'm pretty sure that I've got a genuine Dim4400...it sure looks like one and it's written near the power button. The service tag is 834T311. There is an AGP 4x slot (currently unused) as well as the integrated Intel Extreme graphics which I'm currently using. From my understanding, this on-board video is not desirable as it taxes the system memory. I will probably upgrade to a stand-alone AGP card (e.g. ATI 8500) for the extra performance. Do I need to do anything special to disable the integrated graphics or do I just put in the new card and it automagically disables itself? Thanks for your help. My friend, unless you're international or something, I've never seen a (US) version of the Dim4400 with integrated graphics, nor does the website show such: http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/systems...cs.htm#1103355 Are you using any screensavers at all? Or is there a chance that power interruptions (from the surge/UPS/or wall outlet) are shutting the machine down and sending it into a reboot hung up limbo? Stew |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... "S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. snip Well, a couple of things. If you've indeed got a Dim4400, that system has an AGP graphics card rather than the Intel Extreme (integrated) video. The first place to start would be to look at your power management settings in WindowsXP to be sure they haven't been changed (right click on desktop/properties/screensaver/power/ and verify that the hard disk, system standby, and system hybernates are set to "never"). Stew Stew, They're all set to "never" and the power and sleep buttons are set to "Ask me what to do" when they're pressed. I'm pretty sure that I've got a genuine Dim4400...it sure looks like one and it's written near the power button. The service tag is 834T311. There is an AGP 4x slot (currently unused) as well as the integrated Intel Extreme graphics which I'm currently using. From my understanding, this on-board video is not desirable as it taxes the system memory. I will probably upgrade to a stand-alone AGP card (e.g. ATI 8500) for the extra performance. Do I need to do anything special to disable the integrated graphics or do I just put in the new card and it automagically disables itself? Thanks for your help. My friend, unless you're international or something, I've never seen a (US) version of the Dim4400 with integrated graphics, nor does the website show such: http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/systems...cs.htm#1103355 Are you using any screensavers at all? Or is there a chance that power interruptions (from the surge/UPS/or wall outlet) are shutting the machine down and sending it into a reboot hung up limbo? Stew It's got both Integrated AND an AGP 4x slot. It's also got integrated audio, which is disabled as I'm using a Creative Live! 5.1 card. I use no screensavers. I think the problem may have been dust build-up in the air intakes...I've cleaned out the innards and haven't had a random sleep shutdown since (fingers crossed). |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
"Spiderman" wrote in message ... "S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... "S.Lewis" wrote in message .. . "Spiderman" wrote in message ... What sort of power-related problem would cause random (every few days) sleep shutdowns? I call 'em sleep shutdowns because the power light blinks the way it would in sleep mode. The problem usually manifests itself when playing intensive games (i.e. Vice City) but also sometimes overnite (I leave the PC on at all times). More info on the Dell Dimension 4400: 2.66 GHz, 640 MB RAM, Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics, DVD drives, etc. running on Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks. snip Well, a couple of things. If you've indeed got a Dim4400, that system has an AGP graphics card rather than the Intel Extreme (integrated) video. The first place to start would be to look at your power management settings in WindowsXP to be sure they haven't been changed (right click on desktop/properties/screensaver/power/ and verify that the hard disk, system standby, and system hybernates are set to "never"). Stew Stew, They're all set to "never" and the power and sleep buttons are set to "Ask me what to do" when they're pressed. I'm pretty sure that I've got a genuine Dim4400...it sure looks like one and it's written near the power button. The service tag is 834T311. There is an AGP 4x slot (currently unused) as well as the integrated Intel Extreme graphics which I'm currently using. From my understanding, this on-board video is not desirable as it taxes the system memory. I will probably upgrade to a stand-alone AGP card (e.g. ATI 8500) for the extra performance. Do I need to do anything special to disable the integrated graphics or do I just put in the new card and it automagically disables itself? Thanks for your help. My friend, unless you're international or something, I've never seen a (US) version of the Dim4400 with integrated graphics, nor does the website show such: http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/systems...cs.htm#1103355 Are you using any screensavers at all? Or is there a chance that power interruptions (from the surge/UPS/or wall outlet) are shutting the machine down and sending it into a reboot hung up limbo? Stew It's got both Integrated AND an AGP 4x slot. It's also got integrated audio, which is disabled as I'm using a Creative Live! 5.1 card. I use no screensavers. I think the problem may have been dust build-up in the air intakes...I've cleaned out the innards and haven't had a random sleep shutdown since (fingers crossed). Then I'll join you in crossing fingers. I will remain perplexed at the video configuration of your system, however. Good luck! Stew |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Goodbye Dell, Hello IBM or Toshiba? | Giganews | Dell Computers | 56 | October 4th 05 12:29 PM |
Is Dell P1110 21" monitor the same as Liyama S102GT 21" monitor? | private person | Homebuilt PC's | 0 | February 25th 04 04:56 PM |
Goodbye Dell. Hello (recommendations?) | Giganews | Dell Computers | 8 | November 14th 03 01:03 AM |
FYI - Letter Sent to Dell | Tim S. | Dell Computers | 31 | November 9th 03 08:01 AM |
Dell NEW, w/ 9800 - OVERHEAT | Tony Gaylord | Ati Videocards | 10 | August 19th 03 01:41 PM |