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Old December 13th 10, 09:39 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Phat_Jethro
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Hey all,

I am looking at helping my bro build a budget mid-range gaming PC for my
niece.
To keep costs down I was thinking of going the AMD route to get good
performance for a lower cost. The last while I have been all Intel so I
am out of the AMD and thought to pose the question to the group.

What is a solid mid-range cost effective motherboard\CPU\RAM combo to
give good gaming performance? Probably will be matched with an ATI 5770
vid card.

Thanks
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Old December 14th 10, 12:52 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Paul in Houston TX
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Phat_Jethro wrote:
Hey all,

I am looking at helping my bro build a budget mid-range gaming PC for my
niece.
To keep costs down I was thinking of going the AMD route to get good
performance for a lower cost. The last while I have been all Intel so I
am out of the AMD and thought to pose the question to the group.

What is a solid mid-range cost effective motherboard\CPU\RAM combo to
give good gaming performance? Probably will be matched with an ATI 5770
vid card.

Thanks


Depends on what you want and how much and how much you want to spend.
What is "mid-range" to you?
Mid range to me is about $1200-$1500.
Personally, I would never buy ATI.
Read the specs on everything and compa
Vid cards, mb, cpu, ram, power supply, etc.
Make notes.
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Old December 14th 10, 01:24 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
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?check here for some GOOD information
http://www.tomshardware.com/index.html

mikeyshd



"Phat_Jethro" wrote in message ...
Hey all,

I am looking at helping my bro build a budget mid-range gaming PC for my
niece.
To keep costs down I was thinking of going the AMD route to get good
performance for a lower cost. The last while I have been all Intel so I
am out of the AMD and thought to pose the question to the group.

What is a solid mid-range cost effective motherboard\CPU\RAM combo to
give good gaming performance? Probably will be matched with an ATI 5770
vid card.

Thanks
--
Jethro[AGHL] aka Phat_Jethro
Reply Email: jethro86 (at) gmail (dot) com
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Old December 14th 10, 01:30 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Ed Light
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128431

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...x4,2791-2.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134792

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19868

To the poster who says don't get ATI, I got a geforce 240GT and found
that I couldn't get the sharpening or dynamic contrast to work in flash
player 10.1 (in Win 7). Nor could I make profiles for different levels
of sharpness and choose them by right-clicking a tray icon. Went back to
ATI, and even the humble 4350 lets me do all that (it doesn't have the
dynamic contrast, being a very low-end part). The ATI drivers do have
strange anomalies and you have to test what settings such as brightness
really do and where (in Win 7, desktop gamma affects the video). If you
don't mess with brightness and get it all right at the monitor, then
that's not relevant.

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Old December 14th 10, 01:40 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Paul in Houston TX
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Ed Light wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128431

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...x4,2791-2.html


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134792

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19868

To the poster who says don't get ATI, I got a geforce 240GT and found
that I couldn't get the sharpening or dynamic contrast to work in flash
player 10.1 (in Win 7). Nor could I make profiles for different levels
of sharpness and choose them by right-clicking a tray icon. Went back to
ATI, and even the humble 4350 lets me do all that (it doesn't have the
dynamic contrast, being a very low-end part). The ATI drivers do have
strange anomalies and you have to test what settings such as brightness
really do and where (in Win 7, desktop gamma affects the video). If you
don't mess with brightness and get it all right at the monitor, then
that's not relevant.


The problem I had with ATI is that the are made for LCD monitors
and locked at 60 Hz. I prefer my 19" CRT at home.
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Old December 14th 10, 01:53 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
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On 12/13/2010 4:40 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

The problem I had with ATI is that the are made for LCD monitors
and locked at 60 Hz. I prefer my 19" CRT at home.


Did you install the catalyst drivers, and a monitor driver from the
monitor manufacturer? I've got a LCD but can take it to 75. Without
those drivers, you're using the Windows basic driver.
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Old December 14th 10, 05:33 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Paul in Houston TX
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Ed Light wrote:
On 12/13/2010 4:40 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

The problem I had with ATI is that the are made for LCD monitors
and locked at 60 Hz. I prefer my 19" CRT at home.


Did you install the catalyst drivers, and a monitor driver from the
monitor manufacturer? I've got a LCD but can take it to 75. Without
those drivers, you're using the Windows basic driver.


Yes. There are no ATI drivers for CRT's.
I did much research on the subject. I'm talking
many hours even to the point of writing and compiling
my own drivers. (They did not work.)
IMO, ATI is devious in that they never say anywhere that
their vid cards are locked at 60 Hz and can only be
used with LCD's. If you hook your comp to a crt, you will
see that the higher settings are fake and do not do anything.

Your LCD monitor runs at 60 Hz "frame rate".
There is no flicker since the pixels do not fade
between scans.
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Old December 14th 10, 07:01 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
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Paul, did you get the monitor driver?
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Old December 14th 10, 07:09 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Paul in Houston TX
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Ed Light wrote:
Paul, did you get the monitor driver?


Got them from HP: hp9500.inf and icm.
Tried them and generic inf and icm files.
They did not work. The refresh rate on the ATI
card cannot be changed. I tried 3rd party overrides
also, to no effect. I tried editing the inf files, etc.
I tried RefreshForce. I tried 2 other CRT monitors.
My son has the same problem with his system and ATI card.
He does not notice the 60 hz flicker though whereas I can't stand it.

There is a lot written on the subject. Thousands of hits.
Seach for
ati refresh rate locked at 60 hz
or
ati refresh rate stuck at 60 hz

Check he
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=216919

Emails to ATI/AMD about the problem went unanswered.
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Old December 14th 10, 08:41 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte
Phat_Jethro
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Thanks Ed

You kind of confirmed the was I was thinking. I had my eye on the Phenom
II X4 955 black as well.
Mother board of GA-770T-USB3... any issues with it having a slightly
older chipset? I am out of the loop on AMD chipsets so just asking.

Thx

On 12/13/2010 7:30 PM, Ed Light wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128431

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...x4,2791-2.html


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134792

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19868

To the poster who says don't get ATI, I got a geforce 240GT and found
that I couldn't get the sharpening or dynamic contrast to work in flash
player 10.1 (in Win 7). Nor could I make profiles for different levels
of sharpness and choose them by right-clicking a tray icon. Went back to
ATI, and even the humble 4350 lets me do all that (it doesn't have the
dynamic contrast, being a very low-end part). The ATI drivers do have
strange anomalies and you have to test what settings such as brightness
really do and where (in Win 7, desktop gamma affects the video). If you
don't mess with brightness and get it all right at the monitor, then
that's not relevant.



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