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cause of constant CRC errors?
every large file i download gets a CRC error
I have downloaded a demo of FM2005 Gold from sigames and am awaiting arrival of the game from amazon, i thought i would try the demo i have downloaded the 161 mb files twice and during the extraction of data1.cab file there is a CRC error I also get CRC errors on other large installation, mainly games, Such games have been The Sims2, after registering the Sims 2 i found out on EA support that changing the hard drive/CD-ROM drive to PIO mode may solve the problem It worked for the sims and for Rise Of Nations games however battlefield 1942 and This Football Manager 2005 Demo dont appear to want to work? why do i get constant amounts of CRC when installing large files from my hard drive (notE: sims 2 was from a CD-ROM as was BF1942) rise of nations and this FM2005 demo were from my hard drive, am i going to have troubles with the full game installation CD? it works fine with other applications such as Adobe AcroBat from my hdd and Norton AntiVirus and AVG antivirus and Avast Anti Virus, all large programs that installed fine it seems to be programs utlizing .cab files cany anyone give me any hints? is it my hard drive, it is second hand but it should work...? Also when i tried to install the game i got a message asking for the windows XP SP2 CD to replace some files that got damaged I did insert the original CD and all was well... could this be related to the CRC problem? Thanks (in advance) Chris |
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I am getting CRC in PIO mode off my hard drive where the self extracting EXE file is i thought PIO mode never used cyclic redundancy checks (CRC) my IDE cables are rounded and have a rubber jacket around them, reason for this suggestion is it could be crosstalk on the IDE cables? however wouldnt the rubber coating protect them? They are open at the ends they plug into the board and into the optical drives and hard drive. the hard drive is really really close the optical drives as i have it housed in a harddrive coller that fits into a 5.25 bay so could it be because the cables are too close together? i hope not i have very little room in my puter case despite it being masssssiiivvveee the PSU has loads of free 4 pin connectors taking up all the space the 12 pin power cable has a fat fat rounded wire and it takes up alot of space I juat want this thing to stop the CRC errors only occur on cab files and in games, why is it doing this someone please help i have no idea, i have a few thoughts on what it may be but i am no expert. |
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I would suggest to run a memory diagnostics to test the RAM to start with.
Then run the diagnostics for your hard drive(s). If these pass, then there may be an operating system problem, or something running in the background that is causing the fault. All aspects must be first checked out before coming to any conclusions. -- Jerry G. ====== "Christo" wrote in message ... every large file i download gets a CRC error I have downloaded a demo of FM2005 Gold from sigames and am awaiting arrival of the game from amazon, i thought i would try the demo i have downloaded the 161 mb files twice and during the extraction of data1.cab file there is a CRC error I also get CRC errors on other large installation, mainly games, Such games have been The Sims2, after registering the Sims 2 i found out on EA support that changing the hard drive/CD-ROM drive to PIO mode may solve the problem It worked for the sims and for Rise Of Nations games however battlefield 1942 and This Football Manager 2005 Demo dont appear to want to work? why do i get constant amounts of CRC when installing large files from my hard drive (notE: sims 2 was from a CD-ROM as was BF1942) rise of nations and this FM2005 demo were from my hard drive, am i going to have troubles with the full game installation CD? it works fine with other applications such as Adobe AcroBat from my hdd and Norton AntiVirus and AVG antivirus and Avast Anti Virus, all large programs that installed fine it seems to be programs utlizing .cab files cany anyone give me any hints? is it my hard drive, it is second hand but it should work...? Also when i tried to install the game i got a message asking for the windows XP SP2 CD to replace some files that got damaged I did insert the original CD and all was well... could this be related to the CRC problem? Thanks (in advance) Chris |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:00:34 -0000, "Christo"
wrote: every large file i download gets a CRC error I have downloaded a demo of FM2005 Gold from sigames and am awaiting arrival of the game from amazon, i thought i would try the demo i have downloaded the 161 mb files twice and during the extraction of data1.cab file there is a CRC error I also get CRC errors on other large installation, mainly games, Such games have been The Sims2, after registering the Sims 2 i found out on EA support that changing the hard drive/CD-ROM drive to PIO mode may solve the problem It worked for the sims and for Rise Of Nations games however battlefield 1942 and This Football Manager 2005 Demo dont appear to want to work? why do i get constant amounts of CRC when installing large files from my hard drive (notE: sims 2 was from a CD-ROM as was BF1942) rise of nations and this FM2005 demo were from my hard drive, am i going to have troubles with the full game installation CD? it works fine with other applications such as Adobe AcroBat from my hdd and Norton AntiVirus and AVG antivirus and Avast Anti Virus, all large programs that installed fine it seems to be programs utlizing .cab files cany anyone give me any hints? is it my hard drive, it is second hand but it should work...? Also when i tried to install the game i got a message asking for the windows XP SP2 CD to replace some files that got damaged I did insert the original CD and all was well... could this be related to the CRC problem? Thanks (in advance) Chris It's not likely to be the hard drive, check the CPU temps, voltage levels and run http://www.memtest86.com for several hours. You might also try underclocking the system and retrying the activities causing the CRC errors. With memory, FSB, CPU, and power consumption lower but still same HDD, that would tend to rule out the HDD. |
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"Christo" wrote in message
... every large file i download gets a CRC error I have downloaded a demo of FM2005 Gold from sigames and am awaiting arrival of the game from amazon, i thought i would try the demo i have downloaded the 161 mb files twice and during the extraction of data1.cab file there is a CRC error I also get CRC errors on other large installation, mainly games, Such games have been The Sims2, after registering the Sims 2 i found out on EA support that changing the hard drive/CD-ROM drive to PIO mode may solve the problem It worked for the sims and for Rise Of Nations games however battlefield 1942 and This Football Manager 2005 Demo dont appear to want to work? why do i get constant amounts of CRC when installing large files from my hard drive (notE: sims 2 was from a CD-ROM as was BF1942) rise of nations and this FM2005 demo were from my hard drive, am i going to have troubles with the full game installation CD? it works fine with other applications such as Adobe AcroBat from my hdd and Norton AntiVirus and AVG antivirus and Avast Anti Virus, all large programs that installed fine it seems to be programs utlizing .cab files cany anyone give me any hints? is it my hard drive, it is second hand but it should work...? Also when i tried to install the game i got a message asking for the windows XP SP2 CD to replace some files that got damaged I did insert the original CD and all was well... could this be related to the CRC problem? Does it still happen when you use msconfig.exe to disable startup programs, reboot, and then retry whatever action generates the CRC error? Any errors when you run "chkdsk /r c:" (or whatever are the iffy drives)? -- __________________________________________________ __________ *** Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. *** For e-mail, you must append "#NEWS#" to the Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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"_Vanguard_" wrote in message ... "Christo" wrote in message ... every large file i download gets a CRC error I have downloaded a demo of FM2005 Gold from sigames and am awaiting arrival of the game from amazon, i thought i would try the demo i have downloaded the 161 mb files twice and during the extraction of data1.cab file there is a CRC error I also get CRC errors on other large installation, mainly games, Such games have been The Sims2, after registering the Sims 2 i found out on EA support that changing the hard drive/CD-ROM drive to PIO mode may solve the problem It worked for the sims and for Rise Of Nations games however battlefield 1942 and This Football Manager 2005 Demo dont appear to want to work? why do i get constant amounts of CRC when installing large files from my hard drive (notE: sims 2 was from a CD-ROM as was BF1942) rise of nations and this FM2005 demo were from my hard drive, am i going to have troubles with the full game installation CD? it works fine with other applications such as Adobe AcroBat from my hdd and Norton AntiVirus and AVG antivirus and Avast Anti Virus, all large programs that installed fine it seems to be programs utlizing .cab files cany anyone give me any hints? is it my hard drive, it is second hand but it should work...? Also when i tried to install the game i got a message asking for the windows XP SP2 CD to replace some files that got damaged I did insert the original CD and all was well... could this be related to the CRC problem? Does it still happen when you use msconfig.exe to disable startup programs, reboot, and then retry whatever action generates the CRC error? Any errors when you run "chkdsk /r c:" (or whatever are the iffy drives)? -- __________________________________________________ __________ *** Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. *** For e-mail, you must append "#NEWS#" to the Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ something weird happens when i try a chkdsk in windows cmd i run it C:\chkdsk it does its thing and says there are problems, blah blah cannot correct problems in read only mode would you like to run chkdsk at next startup so i press Y it runs does its thing on startup and corrects supposed errors i then try and do it again in the cmd prompt C:\chkdsk again errors found... straight after rebooting from a chkdsk as you say /chkdsk i imagine is the extension in msconfig, so i am not sure whats going on? I did manage to get the demo of fm05 installed, its a bit random though and not very efficeint |
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first - scan your system and make sure you dont have a virus or some such
thing playing games with you. What version of windows are you running? What else is running? Swap your dimms around ie: exchange DIMM-0 with DIMM-1 if possible and re-run. If you see new symptoms it could be a bad dimm. I once had a system that would fail on a HDD format every time. It turned out to be a bad dimm but for awhile I truly thought my HDD was bad. Eric |
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"Christo" wrote in message
... i run it C:\chkdsk Look back at my post. I did NOT say to run just "chkdsk". Notice what I said and what switches were specified. You can also run "chkdsk /?" to get help on its syntax and switches. I said to include the /r switch. I don't think it matters the order of switches and the drive parameter but, in case order is significant, then try "chkdsk c: /r". When you reboot, you should see it testing the surface integrity. That will take awhile to complete depending on how big is your drive. -- __________________________________________________ __________ *** Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. *** For e-mail, you must append "#NEWS#" to the Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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"_Vanguard_" wrote in message ... "Christo" wrote in message ... i run it C:\chkdsk Look back at my post. I did NOT say to run just "chkdsk". Notice what I said and what switches were specified. You can also run "chkdsk /?" to get help on its syntax and switches. I said to include the /r switch. I don't think it matters the order of switches and the drive parameter but, in case order is significant, then try "chkdsk c: /r". When you reboot, you should see it testing the surface integrity. That will take awhile to complete depending on how big is your drive. BTW, if you are having CRC errors, the *LAST* thing you want to do is a defrag, scandisk for chkdsk. Moving/shuffing/repairing files is a *BAD* thing if your HDD controller is flakey, cable is bad or memory is having errors. |
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"Noozer" wrote in message
news:LCNzd.598256$%k.244602@pd7tw2no... "_Vanguard_" wrote in message ... "Christo" wrote in message ... i run it C:\chkdsk Look back at my post. I did NOT say to run just "chkdsk". Notice what I said and what switches were specified. You can also run "chkdsk /?" to get help on its syntax and switches. I said to include the /r switch. I don't think it matters the order of switches and the drive parameter but, in case order is significant, then try "chkdsk c: /r". When you reboot, you should see it testing the surface integrity. That will take awhile to complete depending on how big is your drive. BTW, if you are having CRC errors, the *LAST* thing you want to do is a defrag, scandisk for chkdsk. Moving/shuffing/repairing files is a *BAD* thing if your HDD controller is flakey, cable is bad or memory is having errors. What if the errors are caused by "soft spots" on the surface where retentivity has waned over time. "chkdsk /r" will test the surface and move the data from flaky spots, if it can successfully read the data. If the controller is bad, nothing you can do will guarantee you don't corrupt the data. Even trying to save a disk image will be iffy since you are still using the same flaky controller to read the data (and write it onto other media if using that same controller, like a hard disk and CD/DVD-R sharing the same controller). You are screwed if you don't have drive images created prior to when the controller went flaky or have logical file backups that sucessfully read the files. I don't know if the OP is using WinZip and, if so, configured it to handle .cab files. You can configure which filetypes are associated with WinZip in its options, and .cab is one of those. I don't know about version 9 (latest) but back in version 7 and 8 it was possible to have WinZip create archive files but it would record the wrong CRC value. Then when you extract the files from the archive file, WinZip again recalculates the CRC for the extracted file against the recorded CRC. It they didn't match, it reported a CRC error. However, the file extracted okay and the problem was WinZip screwing up the CRC calculation. It has been over 3 years (version 8 was out a LONG time) but I recall it had to do with either JPEG or movie files (which are already compressed) and exceeding a maximum file count or nearing it. There is an option in WinZip to extract the file despite it claiming there is a CRC error. When the problem arose, I sent a trouble report to WinZip how actually confirmed the problem, so I've kept my PKzip around because it never did exhibit the CRC problem. At this point, the only things I remember about the WinZip CRC problem what that I was saving several huge files into the archive file or I added lots of files which pushed the file count somewhere way over 32K. Maybe I was trying to archive a directory with all its files, and one of mine has 54K files under it. I think the old version didn't support files over 4GB and maxed out at 65K files per archive, but those should be upped in the latest version. So far we have been assuming the CRC error has been caused by hardware but it is possible the real cause is software and maybe WinZip. The OP also said that a game somehow instigated a request to do a repair from the Windows install CD. If the OP had already installed Service Pack 2 for Windows XP but used a Window XP Service Pack 1 installation CD to do the repair then he has mismatched files (i.e., he tried to use an SP-1 CD to repair an SP-2 setup). He said he used the "original" install CD which might only be SP-1. He would need to create a bootable install CD that slipstreamed SP-2 into Windows XP to use for repairing his SP-2 system. The OP also mentioned that he has 3 anti-virus products installed: Norton Antivirus, AVG, and Avast. Well, that might be okay if he has only ONE on-access scanner from one of them running. He can use them all to use their on-demand scanner (i.e., manual scan) but only one on-access scanner should be running. These operate as a kernel-level file system driver that will interrogate the data stream on file writes so having more than one of them performing a similar function but operating differently might end up with conflicts. Even using msconfig.exe to disable startup programs won't eliminate the driver loads for all the anti-virus software. Three chefs in your one kitchen trying to bake a cake using different procedures will probably get in each other's way. More is not always better. Pick one anti-virus product to use its on-access scanner (so you load only one file system filter driver) and use the on-demand scanners when you want added detection. -- __________________________________________________ __________ *** Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. *** For e-mail, you must append "#NEWS#" to the Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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