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Asus PC-DL raid controller won't see parallel IDE drives
I am installing a Raid on my Asus PC-DL Mobo.
Everything is installing nicely except the Parallel ATA part of the raid. I must have installed the FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS properly, as it recognized the SATA drives and allowed me to create them into a mirrored Raid. I was even able to format them in win XP. But the parallel ATA drives will not appear in the FastTrak 378 BIOS. I have triple checked my drive connections and Bios settings on the parallel ATAs and all seems to be the way it should be. eg in the main Bios 1) OnChip Serial ATA is set to [Combined Mode] 3) Onboard Promise Controller is [Enabled] 2) Operating Mode (for the promise controller) is set to [Raid] They are attached to the to the FastTrak 378 controller. I confimred that they are working and properly master/slaved by temporarily connecting them to the IDE chain 1 and saw them appear in the boot list. But for some mysterious reason, the promise controller will not see them. Must I do something to get the parallel drives to be recognized by the promise controller? thanks Thomas |
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The P4C800-E has a RAID ROM that says:
"FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS Version 1.00.0.37 (c) 2003 Promise Technology, Inc. All rights reserved" The PC-DL has a RAID ROM with file name SATA378.bin that says: "SATA378 TX2plus(tm) BIOS Version 1.00.0.33 (c) 2002-2005 Promise Technology, Inc. All rights reserved" Actaully, my PC-DL Raid Rom says "FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS version 1.00.0.37" (c) 2003 Promise Technology, Inc... Scanning IDE drives..." but it only finds teh SATA drives, not the PATA drives that ARE attached to the fastTrak 378 RAID controller port (_NOT_ the traditional IDE channels). Now, I could be very mistaken, but the TX2plus board from Promise is a PATA/SATA controller without RAID on it. (That means the TX2plus board from Promise uses the non-RAID 20378 BIOS.) Maybe if you use the Promise ATA driver for 20378 instead of the RAID driver, you'll pick up the two IDE drives ? (Note: That doesn't solve your failure to RAID the two PATA drives, but it _might_ gain access to them for vanilla PATA operation.) first of all, how would I 'use the Promise ATA driver for 20378 instead of the RAID driver'? Would I in the BIOS choose: 1) Onboard Promise Controller is [Disbled] 2) Operating Mode (for the promise controller) is set to [IDE] or are you suggesting that I download the driver for the TX2plus and install that? secondly, you are right that this doesn't solve the RAID issue, cos what I really need is for the Fastrak 378 RAID Adapter to see the drives so I can merge both the SATA and the PATA drives into a single 0+1 raid in XP. If I want plain vanilla IDE, I can simply hook them up to the traditional IDE Channel 1. I am about to just do this out of frustration, but the manual says the SATA and PATA (plugged into the RAID adapter) is the ideal combo. It is maddeneing that their instructions do not work. In any case, I don't understand what the SATA378 module is doing in the PC-DL BIOS. The manual states that RAID modes are supported. Perhaps you can ask Asus tech support why the other module (FastTrak) isn't there. There is no such thing that I can find online as ASUS tech support. I went to their site and went to a page titled 'how to get support' http://www.asus.com/support/english/...ort/index.aspx They told me to look on their FAQ and Knwledge base (which SUX!!) or else: ' we will strongly suggest you to contact any authorized ASUS dealer or ASUS Royal Club member to serve you in a professional manner.' I ordered my board online so that nullifies my Royal Club membership. LOL! I would hope that there is no difference in the object format of included modules between Award and AMI, so that will not be an excuse for using the SATA378 module. My PC-DL is indeed using Award Bios. I don't see how I can benefit from the AMI bios settings or the driver 'to use the Promise ATA driver for 20378 instead of the RAID driver'. I still don't quite get what you mean by 'using the SATA378 module'. I am trying to use it. I am plugged into it. I have enabled it in the bios. what else can i possibly do to make it work like it is supposed to? thanks for your suggestions. Thomas |
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Simply put, I am just trying to do what the PC-DL manual says is
possible, and that is to make a 0+1 RAID USING 4 IDE drives, 2 SATAs (attached to the onboard SATA chan 0 and 1) AND the PATAs attached to the FastTrak IDE RAID controller (the blue IDE port that sticks out of the sid of the motherboard). The manual says this is not only possible, but describes (in fair detail) how to set this up. My problem of course is that the FastTrak IDE RAID controller does not recgnize my drives. I know my drives and cables are fine, cos when I put them on the traditional IDE port, they are recognized and displayed in the boot. Also, I am not interested in booting from this Raid, only in using it as a secondary drive. Quote Leythos: The Promise 378 only does 2 of the SATA connectors, it does not have anything to do with IDE drives connected to the old style IDE Connectors. Quote biomorphic: They are attached to the to the FastTrak 378 controller. Quote Leythos: Nope, the 378 only has 2 SATA connectors. The Intel SATA only has 2 connectors. The IDE drive connectors (old style) don't do onboard RAID. Quote biomorphic: I confimred that they are working and properly master/slaved by temporarily connecting them to the IDE chain 1 and saw them appear in the boot list. But for some mysterious reason, the promise controller will not see them. Must I do something to get the parallel drives to be recognized by the promise controller Quote Leythos: The Promise 378 only sees drives connected to it's two connectors The Intel only sees drives connected to it's two connectors The PATA IDE connectors are not seen by the 378 or the Intel. So just to be clear, you are saying that the Promise 378 controller controls ONLY 2 of the SATA channels AND the PATA IDE RAID controller (which is the blue IDE port sticking out sideways off the motherboard). The fastTrak start guide indicates this: "These 3 channels (it might be channel 3, 4, 5 on MB) that PDC20378 support only connect HDD. " We are assuming that the IDE RAID controller is dead on this board, although that does seem absurd to me that they would make a special port and not support it. This board has 4 SATA ports. Can all 4 be used in a RAID configuration? I was lead to believe (by a friend who has the same moboard) that the best RAID config was to use 2 SATAs and 2 PATAs. I am just trying to get to the bottom of what RAID drive config will work. I am still hoping that the PATA IDE RAID controller will work as advertized. In fact I have just sent in an inquiry to Asus on the matter. I WILL keep you posted. Quote Paul: Now, I find it strange that you are getting a Fasttrak message on the screen, when the SATA378 module in the PC-DL doesn't have that text string inside it ? I didn't disassemble all the different versions of the BIOS, so maybe you are using a version of the BIOS that has the Fasttrak BIOS module in it ? I just updated to bios v 1006. It worked, and it added a line in the bios (voice control in the POST messages) but it did not solve my problems. I can only report that the RAID bios read the bios read "FastTrak 378 (tm) BIOS version 1.00.0.37" Quote Paul: The download page for the P4C800-E has two drivers for the 20378. It has an ATA driver and it has a RAID driver. I would expect putting the 20378 in IDE mode, then installing the ATA driver, would do the trick. do what trick? Do you mean make them appear as vanilla IDE drives? The trick I am after is to get the Fastrak 378 Raid Controller to see themso I can make a 4 drive 0+1 RAID. If I want vanilla IDE, I can connect them to the trad IDE channel or put the 20378 in IDE mode (in the bios). Quote Leythos: are you trying to combine your Promise SATA drives in RAID mode with the normal IDE (non-sata) drives on the standard IDE controller? No, I am NOT trying to do that. I am trying to do simply what the manual says I should do, use 2 PATA drives connected to the 20378 Parallel IDE RAID controller and 2 SATA drives connected to the PATA chan 0 and 1. Quote Paul: If you have installed the Windows RAID driver and utilities for the 20378, and you still cannot see anything on the IDE port, then again, that points to (1). I did indeed install the Raid controller in WInXP. but, not sure if I did install the Promise PDC20378 ATA Driver So I reinstalled those drivers in WinXP from the CD. No joy. Excellent detailed info on the the inner workings of the controller chip btw! Quote Leythos: If you need to do R5, then purchase a R5 controller card - the Promise SX6000 IDE (not SATA) controller card will do 6 IDE drives great idea. If I cannot get this to work, i may indeed go that route. How completely annoying tho, that this RAID will not work as advertized. As I mentioned earlier, I did put in an inquiry to ASUS and hope I can get a solutions from them. thanks for all your detailed analysis. Thomas |
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