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P2B: Email vs. News
I receive and respond to a steady flow of emails from users of P2B
series motherboards seeking advice on upgrades and troubleshooting. I do not mind providing free assistance in this manner, as being able to help is satisfying and occasionally generates business for the P2B modification services I offer. However, an increasing number of my replies are bounced due to anti-spam measures taken by the recipient's ISP. Spammers are now working with hackers, and paying them for access to 'zombie' systems they can use to send their crap. I subscribe to a very large ISP, and it's inevitable that some of their clients are infected with spammer trojans at any given time - so my ISP's mail server gets blocked, and my carefully considered replies get bounced. This is quite frustrating, but there is little I can do aside from reporting bounces to my ISP and ensuring my personal systems are not contributing to the problem. I have posted to P2B related threads on this and other newsgroups for several years, and as a result much of my subject matter expertise is archived on google groups. I am therefore requesting that P2B series users in need of assistance consult my web site and google groups prior to emailing me, and consider posting to the newsgroup as an alternative to email. TIA P2B http://tipperlinne.com/p2bmod |
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:22:52 -0400, in alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus, P2B
wrote: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:22:52 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.158.103.46 X-Complaints-To: Organization: Bell Sympatico [snip] The significance of the above will be made clear shortly. I receive and respond to a steady flow of emails from users of P2B series motherboards seeking advice on upgrades and troubleshooting. I do not mind providing free assistance in this manner, as being able to help is satisfying and occasionally generates business for the P2B modification services I offer. [snip] Understood, and good for you. I do some similar things in a slightly different context. However, an increasing number of my replies are bounced due to anti-spam measures taken by the recipient's ISP. Spammers are now working with hackers, and paying them for access to 'zombie' systems they can use to send their crap. I subscribe to a very large ISP, and it's inevitable that some of their clients are infected with spammer trojans at any given time - so my ISP's mail server gets blocked, and my carefully considered replies get bounced. [snip] It goes quite beyond being "a very large ISP". Sympatico / Bell Canada in particular is widely blocked primarily because they are maliciously irresponsible about not only the monumental zombie/proxy problem they have willfully permitted to develop on their network, but also their directly hosting and supporting well-known spammers, proxy/zombie hijackers, DDoS attackers, etc. -- and *most* importantly, virtually never taking ANY corrective action against either problem. They are perhaps second only to Comcast as *the* worst-run "consumer" ISP extant. This isn't really the right venue for any sort of detailed discursion of this issue; so I suggest you Google news.admin.net-abuse.email for references to sympatico.ca OR Sympatico, to get a small inkling of the scale of your real problem. This is quite frustrating, but there is little I can do aside from reporting bounces to my ISP and ensuring my personal systems are not contributing to the problem. [snip] Actually, there is quite a bit more you can do. For starters, you can refuse to accept the lies Sympatico / Bell Canada tells you about how it's really somebody else's problem and there's nothing they can do. You can *demand* that they act responsibly. And when even that fails (which it surely will), you can find a competent and responsible ISP to patronize. But whatever you do, you should do *something*; because as it stands, you are part of the problem, as opposed to being part of the solution -- every month you continue to pay your ISP bill to the likes of Sympatico / Bell Canada, *you* are (indirectly, but nonetheless significantly) supporting and enabling still more spam by telling them in the only language they know that their current behavior and performance is acceptable to you. -- Jay T. Blocksom -------------------------------- Appropriate Technology, Inc. usenet01[at]appropriate-tech.net "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this domain is expressly prohibited under 47 USC S227 and State Law. Violators are subject to prosecution. |
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Jay T. Blocksom wrote: On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:22:52 -0400, in alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus, P2B wrote: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:22:52 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.158.103.46 X-Complaints-To: Organization: Bell Sympatico [snip] The significance of the above will be made clear shortly. I receive and respond to a steady flow of emails from users of P2B series motherboards seeking advice on upgrades and troubleshooting. I do not mind providing free assistance in this manner, as being able to help is satisfying and occasionally generates business for the P2B modification services I offer. [snip] Understood, and good for you. I do some similar things in a slightly different context. However, an increasing number of my replies are bounced due to anti-spam measures taken by the recipient's ISP. Spammers are now working with hackers, and paying them for access to 'zombie' systems they can use to send their crap. I subscribe to a very large ISP, and it's inevitable that some of their clients are infected with spammer trojans at any given time - so my ISP's mail server gets blocked, and my carefully considered replies get bounced. [snip] It goes quite beyond being "a very large ISP". Sympatico / Bell Canada in particular is widely blocked primarily because they are maliciously irresponsible about not only the monumental zombie/proxy problem they have willfully permitted to develop on their network, but also their directly hosting and supporting well-known spammers, proxy/zombie hijackers, DDoS attackers, etc. -- and *most* importantly, virtually never taking ANY corrective action against either problem. They are perhaps second only to Comcast as *the* worst-run "consumer" ISP extant. This isn't really the right venue for any sort of detailed discursion of this issue; so I suggest you Google news.admin.net-abuse.email for references to sympatico.ca OR Sympatico, to get a small inkling of the scale of your real problem. This is quite frustrating, but there is little I can do aside from reporting bounces to my ISP and ensuring my personal systems are not contributing to the problem. [snip] Actually, there is quite a bit more you can do. For starters, you can refuse to accept the lies Sympatico / Bell Canada tells you about how it's really somebody else's problem and there's nothing they can do. You can *demand* that they act responsibly. And when even that fails (which it surely will), you can find a competent and responsible ISP to patronize. But whatever you do, you should do *something*; because as it stands, you are part of the problem, as opposed to being part of the solution -- every month you continue to pay your ISP bill to the likes of Sympatico / Bell Canada, *you* are (indirectly, but nonetheless significantly) supporting and enabling still more spam by telling them in the only language they know that their current behavior and performance is acceptable to you. My employer chose Sympatico and pays the bill every month. The service has been very reliable aside from recent mail-blocking issues, so I have never had reason to give much thought to their competency and responsibility. I will do the research and present any viable alternatives I find to my employer - it should not be difficult to make the case if Sympatico is indeed as cavalier as you claim. P2B |
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