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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
ShadowTek wrote:
On 2009-10-19, SteveH wrote: Out of interest, why do you /need/ to have all that crap around the PC? I have sensitive hearing, and typical PC noises aflict me with an occasional case of tinnitus. If you want quiet, why not get a quiet case and coolers? I did. This is an example of the kind of case to get. It uses heatpipes extensively. I think this may have gone out of production. When it was available, it was around $1000.00 . http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...-tnn500af.html One of the issues with some of these kinds of solutions, is the vibration isolating grommets used for fans or hard drives. They have to be made from the right materials, to prevent noises from devices like the hard drive, from getting coupled into the case walls. Paul |
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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC), ShadowTek
wrote: On 2009-10-19, Ken Maltby wrote: That can certainly be the case, but we have no way of knowing how much performance you are demanding from your system. More to the point for this thread, we don't know if you have a paranoia with regard to sound, that in anyway matches the OP. I think most of us are quite satisfied with the sound level of our systems, without the efforts the OP seems compelled toward. I have a couple of very quite Antec "Three Hundred" cases, for instance. It isn't "paranoia" that's motivating me, it's an actual hearing sensitivity that I have which allow me to hear things that some people can't. No it's not, it's a compulsive fixation on noise which most other people ignore. Being able to hear a little better, even if it were true, does not result in what you hear being excessively loud, all other sounds are still relatively louder. If you want absolute quiet so be it, but anyone can hear/discriminate more if they're trying to because they are obsessed about it. Normally low level background noises are simply ignored. However, there are other things you can do about vibration. Low quality fans lacking proper balance, and those using ball bearings tend to produce more noise. Switch to a high quality very low RPM fan and it will make less noise than the ambient room background noise level if there were no computer. Switch to an SSD instead of mechanical hard drive. Don't leave optical discs in drives so they're not spinning up and down all the time. If the motherboard, PSU, video card, etc has loose windings on an inductor or transformer replace them, or pot the transformers to immobilize the windings. There are sufficient aftermarket products available that you need not have a system vibrating at a level you could feel holding your hand on it, let alone hearing it. |
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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:42:32 +0000 (UTC), ShadowTek
wrote: On 2009-10-19, Ken Maltby wrote: You can also use watercooling to remove all the noise producing elements to another room. That leaves just the hard drive "noise" to manage. The hard drives produce the highest pitch noises, so I would still need some kind of sound insulation. Also, the greatest resonating vibrations are comming from the power supply (not its fan), and I would still need to isolate that as well. Swap the PSU fan for a quieter one. Done. |
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wrote in message ... Ken Maltby wrote: You can also use watercooling to remove all the noise producing elements to another room. That leaves just the hard drive "noise" to manage. I thought the purpose was to improve safety, not worsen it by creating a potential electric shock hazard with a cooling system that hasn't been UL, VDE, or CSA certified. The cooling systems I've seen use vinyl hoses that can melt if the processor's heatsink gets hot enough, and I haven't seen any leak detection devices, like those made for preventing washroom flooding. A better solution may be a heatpipe cooling system You obviously have no understanding of how a watercooling system works, or basic physics for that matter. The processor and any other component needing active cooling, would have a "waterblock" not a heatsink. The distilled water being pumped through the waterblock(s) and the "hoses" is at most only a few degrees above the ambient temp., of the room with the radiator. The hoses are at the same temp. as the water. Most any water pump you can buy will have all the required certifications. There is no more "shock hazard" with water cooling than with air cooling. You know not of what you speak. Luck; Ken |
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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:57:59 +0000 (UTC), ShadowTek
wrote: ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.comp.hardware.] On 2009-10-19, kony wrote: All kidding aside, it is not reasonable to even think about fire detection and suppression for a PC so long as you have a reasonable quality PSU inside, most of your other AC powered electrical products are more likely to catch fire than a PC. As I just posted, I have removed any other equipment from the equation. From what equation? You have nothing AC powered in your home or work at all besides this PC? In the end, it is most likely that your fiddling with the system will make it more dangerous than if it were just a standard stock PC. Anyway, the day I post back about my house burning down, your response of "Well, I guess Gigabyte took a dump on that one." isn't going to make me feel any better. I intend to make an effort. BS, quit trolling or if you're serious see a shrink. |
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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
"ST" == ShadowTek writes:
ST Regardless, I need my *computer* running 24/7. I also have a need for a computer running 24/7 for a proxy server and the occasional torrent download, etc. I got a cheap, 5 watt, no-moving-parts repurposed linux computer for the task. It's dead silent but best for me doesn't run at 50-100 watts like my desktop computer does. If your need doesn't involve windows-only programs post here and I'll describe more details. -- Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have. ~ Richard Salent, Former President CBS News |
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On 2009-10-20, kony wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC), ShadowTek wrote: It isn't "paranoia" that's motivating me, it's an actual hearing sensitivity that I have which allow me to hear things that some people can't. No it's not, it's a compulsive fixation on noise which most other people ignore. Being able to hear a little better, even if it were true, does not result in what you hear being excessively loud, all other sounds are still relatively louder. You're telling *me* what *my* hearing condition is? lol I *can* hear sounds that many other people can't. Doubt me if you like. I *do* experience physical pain and *actual* lingering tinnitus after lengthy exposure to certian sounds that don't bother most other people. Doubt me if you like. |
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On 2009-10-20, kony wrote:
Swap the PSU fan for a quieter one. Done. Send me the money to do it, and it'll get done. I'm not going to spend $70 of *my* money on another PS when I can simple isolate the sound that my current one is making. |
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Cheap fire suppression system for a PC?
On 2009-10-20, Bob Fry wrote:
I also have a need for a computer running 24/7 for a proxy server and the occasional torrent download, etc. I got a cheap, 5 watt, no-moving-parts repurposed linux computer for the task. It's dead silent but best for me doesn't run at 50-100 watts like my desktop computer does. If your need doesn't involve windows-only programs post here and I'll describe more details. The biggest thing holding me back from setting up a different computer was a lack of a multi-port router, which I just recently acquired. I've been thinking about setting up a different computer in another room for just that purpose, but I've got to make space to set one up, as my house is *very* tight on space. Anyway, I have enough know-how to set up the software for it (and I don't use Windows anymore). Thanks. |
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