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Old March 26th 04, 04:44 AM
Dennis E Strausser jr
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What are my chances of getting another water block.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dstrausser33
And running it on a Dual Xeon system system?
My question is, will the Water pump be able to push the little bit extra
water
And add another Radiator to the back of the same case.
System on pics is running on IDE now.
My pins broke off one of the SCSI drives, and the other one crashed on me.
No fans on scsi, and too much an overclock can do this.
Overclocking AGP is 75 MHz PCI is 38 MHz No extra on volts there.
The rest of system info not needed.

I want to Overclock the Dual Xeon, then run this one only over by
2.6 @ 3.06 or so.
What's the best Xeon to Overclock, and what board should I use.
I don't care about even having 32Bit PCI or 64Bit AGP
On board for that stuff is fine, me wants it for Video Encoding jobs.
Capture the file, send it to the Xeon. Even @ times do more then one file
@ a time.
So it's got to be P4 Xeon. Tax Returns soon, and I want a new system, but
don't want
to go as far as 64Bit AMD
I'm not really that much of a gamer. If I were, I'd want something like
that. (AMD 64 Athlon FX53)
Best for gaming to date. And Intel is hurting over it. (ha ha.)

Denny. :-) ahh, fingers getting tired, still with a smile though.


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Old March 26th 04, 06:28 PM
Phil Weldon
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It is not a "little bit of extra water" but TWICE as much water is required
to get the same results because.... TWICE as much heat is involved. Best
test... add a waterblock, check temperature results, then decide if a higher
capacity pump and/or radiator and/or fan is necessary.

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"Dennis E Strausser jr" wrote in message
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What are my chances of getting another water block.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dstrausser33
And running it on a Dual Xeon system system?
My question is, will the Water pump be able to push the little bit extra
water
And add another Radiator to the back of the same case.
System on pics is running on IDE now.
My pins broke off one of the SCSI drives, and the other one crashed on me.
No fans on scsi, and too much an overclock can do this.
Overclocking AGP is 75 MHz PCI is 38 MHz No extra on volts there.
The rest of system info not needed.

I want to Overclock the Dual Xeon, then run this one only over by
2.6 @ 3.06 or so.
What's the best Xeon to Overclock, and what board should I use.
I don't care about even having 32Bit PCI or 64Bit AGP
On board for that stuff is fine, me wants it for Video Encoding jobs.
Capture the file, send it to the Xeon. Even @ times do more then one

file
@ a time.
So it's got to be P4 Xeon. Tax Returns soon, and I want a new system, but
don't want
to go as far as 64Bit AMD
I'm not really that much of a gamer. If I were, I'd want something like
that. (AMD 64 Athlon FX53)
Best for gaming to date. And Intel is hurting over it. (ha ha.)

Denny. :-) ahh, fingers getting tired, still with a smile though.




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Old March 27th 04, 02:47 AM
GTD
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:44:18 -0500, "Dennis E Strausser jr"
wrote:

What are my chances of getting another water block.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dstrausser33
And running it on a Dual Xeon system system?
My question is, will the Water pump be able to push the little bit extra
water
And add another Radiator to the back of the same case.

I would try it, My system cools the CPU (2500+ bart @2400) and the VPU
(9800pro 128m). My CPU Temp rose only 1-2c when I added the waterblock
to the VPU, and then it was set up so the water entered the VPU block
befor the CPU block.
One option is to split the line with a Y fitting so half goes to 1
CPU, half to the other. This way, you add little if any restriction.
Actually, if your CPU block is your lowest-flowing device, it will
increase your flow. I have heard a few people say that if you do so,
you should put in a section of slightly smaller tubing in each CPU
loop, so you don't end up in a situation where all of most of the flow
goes through one CPU, and the other gets little or no flow.
As for the radiator, I would try it with the one you have, and monitor
the temps closely. As long as you put the system together right, have
witer flowing through the blocks and rad, and air flowing through the
rad, it is highly unlikely you will get a tempature surge fast enough
that you will damage anything because you couldn't shut it down fast
enough. When my pump went dead, My temps went up significantly, but
not fast enough for me to worry too much about it. After letting the
system cool down, I fired it up and had time to order the new pump
before it got too high, I think it was at 57c when I shut it down.
A friend of mine did something I thought was creative, since he was
having intermittent trouble with his pump (turned out to be a flakey
relay): He put one of those ball-priming pumps, like the ones used on
the fule hoses in outboard motors, so he could pump watter through
while he was shutting down when the pump stopped. I was suprized how
much of a difference that made. we could run the system indefinately
like that, as long as no real CPU heavy operations were going on. Plus
the priming pump worked great for, well, priming the system.


You should start drinking prune juice and KY jelly cocktails right now,
that will make things a lot smoother.
-Felatio Love
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Old March 28th 04, 04:40 AM
Dennis E Strausser jr
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"GTD" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:44:18 -0500, "Dennis E Strausser jr"
wrote:

What are my chances of getting another water block.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dstrausser33
And running it on a Dual Xeon system system?
My question is, will the Water pump be able to push the little bit extra
water
And add another Radiator to the back of the same case.

I would try it, My system cools the CPU (2500+ bart @2400) and the VPU
(9800pro 128m). My CPU Temp rose only 1-2c when I added the waterblock
to the VPU, and then it was set up so the water entered the VPU block
befor the CPU block.
One option is to split the line with a Y fitting so half goes to 1
CPU, half to the other. This way, you add little if any restriction.
Actually, if your CPU block is your lowest-flowing device, it will
increase your flow. I have heard a few people say that if you do so,
you should put in a section of slightly smaller tubing in each CPU
loop, so you don't end up in a situation where all of most of the flow
goes through one CPU, and the other gets little or no flow.
As for the radiator, I would try it with the one you have, and monitor
the temps closely. As long as you put the system together right, have
witer flowing through the blocks and rad, and air flowing through the
rad, it is highly unlikely you will get a tempature surge fast enough
that you will damage anything because you couldn't shut it down fast
enough. When my pump went dead, My temps went up significantly, but
not fast enough for me to worry too much about it. After letting the
system cool down, I fired it up and had time to order the new pump
before it got too high, I think it was at 57c when I shut it down.
A friend of mine did something I thought was creative, since he was
having intermittent trouble with his pump (turned out to be a flakey
relay): He put one of those ball-priming pumps, like the ones used on
the fule hoses in outboard motors, so he could pump watter through
while he was shutting down when the pump stopped. I was suprized how
much of a difference that made. we could run the system indefinately
like that, as long as no real CPU heavy operations were going on. Plus
the priming pump worked great for, well, priming the system.


You should start drinking prune juice and KY jelly cocktails right now,
that will make things a lot smoother.
-Felatio Love


LOL, I like that.

Ok, I'll keep it in mind, I have a few idea's of my own too. Like I even
found my board yet.
I Want something very little, don't need sound, support for 603 Pin PGA P4
Xeon Ht Cpu's.
No need for AGP, I'm not trying to build a gaming system after all. And also
no need for 32Bit Pci Slots.
2x64 is all I care about there. I don't want the need for one of those Ram
Slots where you need to add something
first before you can add ram to it.
in other words, something with almost nothing. On board PC2700 ram (PC333) a
lot of ppl seem to want to call it.
And lots of it.
I guess I'll just have to keep looking. My board is out there somewhere.
It's clear I think all I want is a fast server to serve as a encoding
system.

TY All.
Denny. :-) Always with a smile, even if times are bad.


 




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