Power on but nothing.

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.

From: G.Strait [mailto:G.Strait@No Spam.com]
Posted At: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:01 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Power on but nothing.
Subject: Power on but nothing.



Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock
his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on
to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you
could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be
highly appreciated. The message is as follows.



Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that
really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The
first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and
was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited
about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to
it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot
at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the
battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's
just stuck there on black screen.



Yes, my advice is: "Don't try to overclock a modern computer. You
could kill it"

Thanks Tom. Appreciate your reply. My thought exactly. Just trying to help the guy out.

Cheers,
Greg

"Tom Scales" wrote in message news:56774221D90B47488E5B78D4A3AD8CDB@XPS13...


From: G.Strait [mailto:G.Strait@No Spam.com]
Posted At: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:01 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Power on but nothing.
Subject: Power on but nothing.

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.

Yes, my advice is: "Don't try to overclock a modern computer. You could kill it"

of course knowing the model number would help... but in addition to
removing the cmos batter he should also try pulling the power cord from
the computer, then holding the power button for ten seconds to fully
discharge the system... and then put the cmos battery back and plug the
power cord back in... if the system still won't start have him look for
the diagnostic lights typically labeled abcd and either off or lit up
green or amber. also note what the power indicator is doing... solid
green, blinking green, solid amber, blinking amber...
all that said, i wonder how he attempted to overclock the system.
perhaps he just overclocked the video card and fried it and what he is
really trying to describe is that he has no video.

G.Strait wrote:
Thanks Tom. Appreciate your reply. My thought exactly. Just trying to help the guy out.

Cheers,
Greg

"Tom Scales" wrote in message news:56774221D90B47488E5B78D4A3AD8CDB@XPS13...


From: G.Strait [mailto:G.Strait@No Spam.com]
Posted At: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:01 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Power on but nothing.
Subject: Power on but nothing.

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.

Yes, my advice is: "Don't try to overclock a modern computer. You could kill it"

Thank you Christopher for your input. He just sent me this info. Hope this will be helpful.

a.. Mother board
b..
c..
d.. CPU: LGA 775 support Intel Dual Core Pentium XE/ Pentium D/ Pentium 4/ Celeron D; Supporting Conroe/ Presler/ Cedar Mill processors; Supports Hyper-Threading/ EM64T Technology; FSB 1066/800/533 MHz
e.. Chipset: VIA PT880 Pro & VT8237A
f.. Memory: 2x 240pin DDR2-667/533 DIMMs, Dual Channel, Upto 2GB; Or 2x 184pin DDR-400/333/266 DIMMs, , Dual Channel, Upto 2GB
g.. Slots: 1x PCI Express Graphics slot; 1x AGP 8X slot; 4x PCI slots
h.. IDE/SATA: 2x ATA-133 channels; 2x SATA ports support RAID 0, 1, JBOD
i.. Audio: Realtek ALC888 7.1-channel audio CODEC with High Definition Audio
j.. LAN: VIA PHY VT6103 10/100 Ethernet
k.. Ports: 8x USB 2.0 Ports (4 rear, 4 by headers); 2x PS/2 Ports; 1x Serial Port; 1x Parallel Port; 1x RJ-45 LAN Port; Audio I/O jack
l.. Form Factor: ATX, 12.0 x 9.6 inch / 30.5 x 24.4 cm
m.. Package: Retail
n.. RoHS Compliant


CPU

ntel(R) Processor Identification Utility
Version: 4.00.20081113
Time Stamp: 2008/12/31 16:46:34
Number of processors in system: 1
Current processor: #1
Active cores per processor: 2
Disabled cores per processor: 0
Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6300 @ 1.86GHz
Type: 0
Family: 6
Model: F
Stepping: 6
Revision: CB
Maximum CPUID Level: A
L1 Instruction Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L1 Data Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Packaging: LGA775
EIST: Yes
MMX(TM): Yes
SSE: Yes
SSE2: Yes
SSE3: Yes
SSE4: No
Enhanced Halt State: No
Execute Disable Bit: No
Hyper-Threading Technology: No
Intel(R) 64 Architectu Yes
Intel(R) Virtualization Technology: Yes
Expected Processor Frequency: 1.86 GHz
Reported Processor Frequency: 1.79 GHz
Expected System Bus Frequency: 1066 MHz
Reported System Bus Frequency: 1024 MHz


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message t...
of course knowing the model number would help... but in addition to
removing the cmos batter he should also try pulling the power cord from
the computer, then holding the power button for ten seconds to fully
discharge the system... and then put the cmos battery back and plug the
power cord back in... if the system still won't start have him look for
the diagnostic lights typically labeled abcd and either off or lit up
green or amber. also note what the power indicator is doing... solid
green, blinking green, solid amber, blinking amber...
all that said, i wonder how he attempted to overclock the system.
perhaps he just overclocked the video card and fried it and what he is
really trying to describe is that he has no video.

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.

Yes, my advice is: "Don't try to overclock a modern computer. You could kill it"

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:01:15 -0600, "G.Strait" G.Strait@No Spam.com
wrote:

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.


Is it a Dell pc ? From everything I've read over years, Dells can't
be overclocked. I agree with Tom and my best guess is the cpu is
dead now. He might try to unplug the system for 30 minutes, then
remove and reinstall the cpu and then try a reboot. Also I wonder if
the battery could be going bad?? I have read bad batteries seem to
cause weird problems.

Hi!

(please fix your newsreader - it's posting in HTML format, and that's bad
form!)

Unplug the power from the system while the CMOS battery is out. Leave it
that way for several hours.

In most modern ATX systems, the battery does nothing if a power cord is
plugged in and the PSU works.

William

Hi!

Is it a Dell pc ? From everything I've read over years, Dells can't
be overclocked.

As long as you mean "can't be overclocked" *with settings in the BIOS setup
tool* you are correct.

Utilities exist to directly program the clock generator on a motherboard,
which is usually a pretty standard part. By way of these tools, overclocks
may become possible. This won't usually help you with raising the core
voltage for certain parts if that is required to maintain stability.

I agree with Tom and my best guess is the cpu is dead now.

I really doubt it. They're not *that* easy to kill, unless the BIOS setup
utility allowed the user to select some truly unwise voltage settings.

It may be difficult to get it running again, but I'll bet that it can be
done with some effort.

William

unfortunately that doesn't answer any of the questions that i asked
(model number, how it was overclocked, what the diagnostic lights
report, what the power button is indicating, etc). but it does suggest
that what he has is not a dell. afik dell never made a system with a
via chipset that supports an intel processor. i would guess that he has
some non-dell motherboard that allows for overclocking in the bios and
his monkeying around with those settings resulted in him destroying his
processor and possibly more.

G.Strait wrote:
Thank you Christopher for your input. He just sent me this info. Hope this will be helpful.

a.. Mother board
b..
c..
d.. CPU: LGA 775 support Intel Dual Core Pentium XE/ Pentium D/ Pentium 4/ Celeron D; Supporting Conroe/ Presler/ Cedar Mill processors; Supports Hyper-Threading/ EM64T Technology; FSB 1066/800/533 MHz
e.. Chipset: VIA PT880 Pro & VT8237A
f.. Memory: 2x 240pin DDR2-667/533 DIMMs, Dual Channel, Upto 2GB; Or 2x 184pin DDR-400/333/266 DIMMs, , Dual Channel, Upto 2GB
g.. Slots: 1x PCI Express Graphics slot; 1x AGP 8X slot; 4x PCI slots
h.. IDE/SATA: 2x ATA-133 channels; 2x SATA ports support RAID 0, 1, JBOD
i.. Audio: Realtek ALC888 7.1-channel audio CODEC with High Definition Audio
j.. LAN: VIA PHY VT6103 10/100 Ethernet
k.. Ports: 8x USB 2.0 Ports (4 rear, 4 by headers); 2x PS/2 Ports; 1x Serial Port; 1x Parallel Port; 1x RJ-45 LAN Port; Audio I/O jack
l.. Form Factor: ATX, 12.0 x 9.6 inch / 30.5 x 24.4 cm
m.. Package: Retail
n.. RoHS Compliant


CPU

ntel(R) Processor Identification Utility
Version: 4.00.20081113
Time Stamp: 2008/12/31 16:46:34
Number of processors in system: 1
Current processor: #1
Active cores per processor: 2
Disabled cores per processor: 0
Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6300 @ 1.86GHz
Type: 0
Family: 6
Model: F
Stepping: 6
Revision: CB
Maximum CPUID Level: A
L1 Instruction Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L1 Data Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Packaging: LGA775
EIST: Yes
MMX(TM): Yes
SSE: Yes
SSE2: Yes
SSE3: Yes
SSE4: No
Enhanced Halt State: No
Execute Disable Bit: No
Hyper-Threading Technology: No
Intel(R) 64 Architectu Yes
Intel(R) Virtualization Technology: Yes
Expected Processor Frequency: 1.86 GHz
Reported Processor Frequency: 1.79 GHz
Expected System Bus Frequency: 1066 MHz
Reported System Bus Frequency: 1024 MHz


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message t...
of course knowing the model number would help... but in addition to
removing the cmos batter he should also try pulling the power cord from
the computer, then holding the power button for ten seconds to fully
discharge the system... and then put the cmos battery back and plug the
power cord back in... if the system still won't start have him look for
the diagnostic lights typically labeled abcd and either off or lit up
green or amber. also note what the power indicator is doing... solid
green, blinking green, solid amber, blinking amber...
all that said, i wonder how he attempted to overclock the system.
perhaps he just overclocked the video card and fried it and what he is
really trying to describe is that he has no video.

Received a message from a neighbor in regards to attempt to overclock his puter. The message is as follows. I mentioned I would pass it on to those of you who are far more experienced than I. If anyone of you could be of assistance in helping him figure out his problem it would be highly appreciated. The message is as follows.

Not sure if you can help me out here, but did something to my PC that really messed it up.
Here's what I did. I attempted to overclock the CPU (Core Dou 2). The first time I did it, it didn't reboot so I did some research online and was told to reset the CMOS. So I did, I remove the battery and waited about 15 min and it started back up and I was able to reset my BIOS to it default settings.

The 2nd time I attempted to overclock it did it again. It won't reboot at all now. The power comes on and all but nothing. I've removed the battery and let it sit for hours and still won't let me into BOIS, it's just stuck there on black screen.

Yes, my advice is: "Don't try to overclock a modern computer. You could kill it"

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:15:59 -0600, "William R. Walsh"
m wrote:

Hi!

Is it a Dell pc ? From everything I've read over years, Dells can't
be overclocked.

As long as you mean "can't be overclocked" *with settings in the BIOS setup
tool* you are correct.

Utilities exist to directly program the clock generator on a motherboard,
which is usually a pretty standard part. By way of these tools, overclocks
may become possible. This won't usually help you with raising the core
voltage for certain parts if that is required to maintain stability.

I agree with Tom and my best guess is the cpu is dead now.

I really doubt it. They're not *that* easy to kill, unless the BIOS setup
utility allowed the user to select some truly unwise voltage settings.

It may be difficult to get it running again, but I'll bet that it can be
done with some effort.

William



To my knowledge Dell's cpu is an altered retail version and nothing I
ever read over the years said it was clockable. I won't go as far as
saying you are wrong as I don't claim to be an authority on this (I
only did it once myself on a different pc years ago) but I will say
that I've read a lot of sources over many years and not one said
otherwise.

Second, I hope you are right on "not that easy to kill". I feel for
bad for this neighbor but sometimes the hard lessons do teach us well.

As another poster said, we really need a little more info but perhaps
the little help we offer so far may help????